Template talk:Chess variants
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Ihardlythinkso in topic "__ chess"/"__ Chess", "__ chess variant"/"__ Chess variant", or "__"?
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"__ chess"/"__ Chess", "__ chess variant"/"__ Chess variant", or "__"?
editWhich of the following forms should the template display the titles of chess variants? :
If both should be used, why and how? Hyacinth (talk) 11:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- If your Q is generic Q applying to all variants, that's a bad example to pick. ("Baroque" is Abbott's orig name for "Ultima". "Baroque Chess" is a variant invented by G. Capellen. "Baroque chess" is a WP anomaly name. --IHTS (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't ask if the article Baroque chess should be at Baroque Chess (though I am willing to try and help with correcting article capitalization). I asked if this template, which lists chess variants, should use the word "chess" redundantly. Users can presume that a link displayed as "Baroque" will link to "Baroque chess"/"Baroque Chess" and Wikipedia discourages unnecessary redundancy. Hyacinth (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pritchard, in Encyclopedia of Chess Variants, eliminated the redundancy by specifying "C" for "Chess". (So, the entry for Grand Chess appears as Grand C and so on.) Some have "chess" as part of their game name of course (e.g. Dragonchess, Quatrochess, etc.). If you drop the word in cases where it is separate word, in some cases what is left may be a given alternate name (e.g. "Courier" is altnernate name for Courier Chess/chess) but in other cases not (e.g. "Grand" isn't alternate name for Grand Chess). So IMO Pritchard's idea is best. That solution for the template w/ still require precise knowledge of article name (i.e. "Courier C" versus "Courier c"), but as pointed out, circumventing that by dropping the word has drawbacks prev mentioned. --IHTS (talk) 03:08, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pritchard's article titles don't matter if they use title case (in that case the capitalization used within the article matters), since Wikipedia articles don't use title case. Hyacinth (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- My suggestion re Prichard had nothing to do w/ case, it had to do w/ his technique of avoiding redundancy. --IHTS (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pritchard's article titles don't matter if they use title case (in that case the capitalization used within the article matters), since Wikipedia articles don't use title case. Hyacinth (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pritchard, in Encyclopedia of Chess Variants, eliminated the redundancy by specifying "C" for "Chess". (So, the entry for Grand Chess appears as Grand C and so on.) Some have "chess" as part of their game name of course (e.g. Dragonchess, Quatrochess, etc.). If you drop the word in cases where it is separate word, in some cases what is left may be a given alternate name (e.g. "Courier" is altnernate name for Courier Chess/chess) but in other cases not (e.g. "Grand" isn't alternate name for Grand Chess). So IMO Pritchard's idea is best. That solution for the template w/ still require precise knowledge of article name (i.e. "Courier C" versus "Courier c"), but as pointed out, circumventing that by dropping the word has drawbacks prev mentioned. --IHTS (talk) 03:08, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't ask if the article Baroque chess should be at Baroque Chess (though I am willing to try and help with correcting article capitalization). I asked if this template, which lists chess variants, should use the word "chess" redundantly. Users can presume that a link displayed as "Baroque" will link to "Baroque chess"/"Baroque Chess" and Wikipedia discourages unnecessary redundancy. Hyacinth (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Why would a reader assume that a link to "Grand" in a template of chess variants would link to grand? The template could read "Grand Chess variant". Hyacinth (talk) 20:55, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- I never said that (that a reader w/ assume a link to "Grand" w/ link to "grand"). I said a link that displays only "Grand" might suggest that "Grand" is an accepted/sourced alternate game name, which it is not, and that is a slight drawback of your idea to drop word "Chess/chess". --IHTS (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)