Template talk:Country data Japan

Japanese flag

• There is never that a Japanese national flag became the Kyokujitsuki (旭日旗). At first the person whom I want to display please give the source. If there is a person expecting display without the source being posted, I must think about a request of protection. Please try to refer to Flag of Japan page. If it is replaced a national flag secretly by a flag of the armed forces, even people of any country will feel it unpleasantly. --saburny 15:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
  • What are you requesitng a source for? The fact that the military flag is a variant of japanese flags? The article (while not an appropriate source) substantiates that. Wikipedia is not for hiding one flag that you disagree with. In article on the Japanese military during the time of the flags usage, it would appear that use of the flag is appropriate. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
• I request the source of the fact that a Kyokujitsuki was used for a Japanese national flag. For example, is a flag of the armed forces used in the United States of America and a UK template? It is not to be so. If somebody cannot prove a fact, such a parameter is unnecessary. The reason is because there is a person feeling that it is unpleasant like me. It and this are the history or national problems not a problem of a aircraft. It is lacking in understanding of a problem to demand talks by a project of aircraft. --saburny 12:41, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
• If a source is not submitted by May 18 2007 (UTC), I delete indication of a Kyokujitsuki. --saburny 13:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Look at this: Image:Chitose_light_carrier_configuration.jpg What kind of flag do you see ?!? Or here: Image:Chitose1.jpg ? --Denniss 19:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• Did you look at Flag of Japan? This problem is unrelated to a naval flag being used for a warship. I do not change a time limit for the reason.--saburny 23:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
  • A time limit is not an acceptable ultimatum. This is a template, not the article. If there is no reference of it in the article, it might be a valid claim. Face it, the flag existed and trying to get rid of it does not do any good. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
• In any case it causes confusion to continue displaying the wrong flag without evidence.--saburny 18:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Japan's Naval Ensign

As is discussed (quite confusingly) above, - the Kyokujitsuki - is Japan's historical and current Naval Ensign. As such, the labeling "{{flag|Japan|ww2}}" is IMO incorrect. I suggest "{{flag|Japan|naval}}" or similar instead. --Himasaram 00:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Have now created an alias naval and will start using this throughout articles featuring the Japan Naval Ensign flagicon. When migration is complete, I will remove the ww2 alias. --Himasaram 23:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Migration is complete. Please use "{{flag|Japan|naval}}" to get the Kyokujitsuki. --Himasaram 02:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Himasaram, migration was not complete and your careless edit made dozens of WP:AIR related articles broken. I'll fix all of them but next time try to be more careful. Regards, Piotr Mikołajski 11:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Huh? Where exactly? I just looked through all the articles in List of aircraft of the Japanese Navy but couldn't spot anything "broken" there. --Himasaram 11:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Probably not all aircraft are listed in List of aircraft of the Japanese Navy article. Yesterday someone edited Tachikawa Ki-55, today I've found Aichi E16A or Nakajima E8N to name that three. I have no idea how many were changed after 22 July by other editors and how many were not found yet. Piotr Mikołajski 14:27, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I googled for "flag alias-ww2" and got another two (except talk pages) - Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Goudkov LaGG-3 & Douglas DC-5. I think it should be all right now. --Himasaram 00:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems that those two were the last ones because yesterday some people cleared such entries. Piotr Mikołajski 10:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Template image cleanup

The image File:Flag of Japan.svg can be used for the 1999 to current flag; there is no official Pantone for the Japanese flag and there has been no specific shades except for the government issued flags (which the main Flag of Japan.svg can be used for). The CIA drawn flags do not have the correct ratios for the flag (WFB 2013) and the sun ratio is not correct on all three WFB flags (sun needs to be 3/5th of the hoist, all three are too large). User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 09:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done I think in that case those variants can just be removed from the template. If any articles are using them, they will now use the default. Is that correct? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes it does. Thank you very much! User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 08:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Requested alias + link

Can the following be added? Just as it is for {{Country data Germany}}.

| flag alias-empire = Flag of Japan (1870–1999).svg
| link alias-empire = Empire of Japan
...
| var = empire

This will allow for easier editing, I've found. To prevent overlinking, on lists shipwrecks (for example), only the first mention of a country will ideally need to be linked, the rest will be shown with {{flagu}}. However, in its current state this requires special handling for the Empire of Japan, which, if shown with {{flagu}}, will display its complete name, Empire of Japan. This goes againt MOS:COMMONNAME. Sure, this might be manually changed to just Japan, but I'd rather not.

Thank you. Jay D. Easy (talk) 23:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

 Question: Why can't you just use the 1870 variant which is already defined? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Because it doesn't work. See the following for comparison. I used 1935 and 1870, since empire doesn't appear to really work with Germany's {{flagu}}.

{{flagcountry|Germany|1935}} {{flagu|Germany|1935}}
{{flagcountry|Japan|1870}} {{flagu|Japan|1870}}

Germany	Germany
Japan	Japan

See my point? Jay D. Easy (talk) 13:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Jay D. Easy, shouldn't you use {{flagu|Empire of Japan}} for Empire of Japan then? Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:49, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I have added |link alias-1870=. Does this solve the problem? I don't think there is any point having two aliases for the same flag. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:41, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@MSGJ: Awesome! You're right, it's a better solution than what I suggested. Thank you. Jay D. Easy (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)