Template talk:Country data Russia/Archive 1

Archive 1

"Variants"

Can someone remove those factually incorrect versions labeled as "variants"? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 18:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Can someone remove those factually incorrect versions labeled as "variants"? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 16:50, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 16 November 2018

Please replace the flag variant under the label "1914" ( Flag_of_Russian_Empire_for_private_use_(1914-1917).svg ) with Flag_of_Russian_Empire_(1914-1917).svg. The latter flag is more accurate to depictions and flags from the time. Thespündragon 18:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Thespoondragon, what's the visible difference between the two (which admittedly does not matter much) and can you point to a RS that asserts the particular design to be the-then flag? Templates are not exempt from sourcing requirements. ∯WBG^converse 09:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 7 January 2019

Remove:
flag alias-2000 = Flag of Russia (WFB 2000).svg
flag alias-2004 = Flag of Russia (WFB 2004).svg
flag alias-2013 = Flag of Russia (WFB 2013).svg
| var12 = 1993
| var13 = 2000
| var14 = 2004
| var15 = 2013

Remove these lines to remove the flags as they are just based on the shades used in pictures in different editions of the CIA World Factbook and not are official or even real changes to the flag used by Russia, they should not be included and especially not linked to a specific year
kremlin is also just based on a picture on a website, not a historical variant
Havsjö (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

These edits will not produce errors due to articles using them, as they will be replaced with the default russian flag --Havsjö (talk) 00:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now:

• Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Flag of Russia (WFB 2000).svg
• Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Flag of Russia (WFB 2004).svg
• Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Flag of Russia (WFB 2013).svg

2004 & 2013 are still in use. 2013 mostly through transcluding Template:Footer European Artistic Gymnastics Floor Exercise Champions (Women). Cabayi (talk) 10:41, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Cabayi I fixed it, but I must tell you that if the year is "invalid", it will use the default Russian flag, which these are incorrect variants of. So even if it was removed it would have "fixed itself". Some aliases on those same pages these files were used on were aliases/links to years which have no alias, just based on when a sports-event took place for example (probably just in case), but they only use the default Russian flags because that link is "invalid". I have done this "strategy" on most of my requests since its so tedious to manually change them when they will be auto-changed anyway. I still do it if its a historical variant that would "auto-change" to the current (and therefor incorrect) version, however. --Havsjö (talk) 10:52, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Waiting on the fix to Template:Footer European Artistic Gymnastics Floor Exercise Champions (Women) to work its way through...

Havsjö I'd rather not create errors even if they may be trapped automatically. Some day someone will want to "fix" something else in the error correction and this would just resurface. Cabayi (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay... but as I said, very many sports pages use country|year on whatever year the event took place, no matter if an alias exists there or not (including instances of aliases of the files you mention). But I will change manually what if you find any usage you want to get rid of before changing anything--Havsjö (talk) 11:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done I forced Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Flag of Russia (WFB 2013).svg to clear with null edits on the articles still listed. Cabayi (talk) 13:36, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Cabayi im so sorry, I also forgot to include to remove
flag alias-1993 = Flag of Russia (Kremlin.ru).svg
it is just based on how the image on the website looks and should also go... I removed all usage of it --Havsjö (talk) 14:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done Cabayi (talk) 19:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 April 2019

Change the 1914 flag from
File:Flag of Russian Empire for private use (1914–1917).svg
to
File:Flag of Russian Empire (1914-1917).svg
as the description notes, the current one is unofficial and the several sources for the new flag shows that thats how it looked in real life. Havsjö (talk) 20:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:24, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 May 2020

Please add this:

| flag alias-space force = Flag of the Russian Aerospace Forces.svg
| link alias-space force = Russian Aerospace Forces

Thanks. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:52, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done S.A. Julio (talk) 02:32, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:11, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 May 2020

Please replace Flag of the Russian Aerospace Forces.svg and Russian Aerospace Forces with Russian military space troops flag.svg and Russian Space Forces respectively. Thanks. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done S.A. Julio (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 16 April 2021

Please replace the following at Template:Country data Russia:

| flag alias-roc-olympics= ROC flag (2021 NWSCh).png

With this:

| flag alias-roc-olympics= Russian Olympic Committee flag.svg

Sangjinhwa (talk) 17:27, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 17:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 August 2021

Please add this:

 | flag alias-rpc-paralympics= Russian Paralympic Committee flag.svg

GlashaLeo (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 17:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 August 2021 (2)

Please replace the following at Template:Country data Russia:

| flag alias-rpc-paralympics= Russian Paralympic Committee flag.svg

With this:

| flag alias-rpc-paralympics= Russian Paralympic Committee flag (2021).svg

GlashaLeo (talk) 18:08, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Adding National Badminton Federation of Russia flag

Hi. Can someone add National Badminton Federation of Russia flag according to this (BWF website)? Thank you. 110.139.95.176 (talk) 14:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Could you sandbox this and/or be more specific about what changes (in the form of "add XYZ to the code") you want made? Primefac (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Add a white background flag based on the ROC flag but with the NBFR logo, , just like in the extranet.bwfbadminton.com (first) link. "add nbfr-bwf to the code". 110.139.95.176 (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

That type of image might not even be allowable on Wikipedia depending on its copyright status. I'm not really sure the best place to request an image be uploaded, but this isn't it. Primefac (talk) 20:10, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Can't it have the licensing like in ? 125.164.136.216 (talk) 04:38, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Could do, it would depend on how they license the image (which looks slightly more complex than the ROC logo). Again, I'm not sure this is the best place to ask for such an image to be created, especially if it will be uploaded to Commons. Primefac (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

If uploaded locally? 125.164.136.216 (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac: Can we use this? [1] Centaur271188 (talk) 12:54, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Seems reasonable, sandbox the change and I'll be happy to implement. Primefac (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac: Like this? [2]. I just named them "flag alias-nbfr-badminton= Nbfr logo.png" and "var14 = nbfr-badminton". Feel free to change them if you see fit, including the Commons file name. Centaur271188 (talk) 11:06, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. Primefac (talk) 13:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac: may I ask for the same kind of edit? adding something like this | flag alias-rwf-wrestling= File:RWF logo.svg . I can use the flag manually but having it in the template makes it easier. thanks. Mohsen1248 (talk) 12:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 13:47, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, once again. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:37, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 22 February 2022

Change
flag alias-navy=Naval Jack of Russia.svg
to
flag alias-navy=Naval Ensign of Russia.svg
as they should be synonymous. There is no differnece between "naval" and "navy" and the ensign is the main naval flag Havsjö (talk) 20:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

First, thank you, Havsjö, for finding these. I recently fixed the Navy/Naval verbage on the Country data pages, which developed into a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template#Template:Navy doesn't display navy flag as the documentation says it's supposed to. In that discussion we see several instances where the Navy and Naval are different, and the consensus there is that Naval ensigns should be rendered by the Navy template. In light of that, the flags in Russia's country data page have been switched, ie the ensign is now rendered by the Navy template and the Naval jack is rendered by the Naval template. Thanks again for your help with these Navy/Naval issues. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 07:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: I implore the finalize the change of all Naval Jacks in this template to be replaced with the Naval ensigns. All of Wikipedia is now full of instances were the inapproriate flag is used. Not in a single instance ive seen in the list of file usage for the Jack where displaying the Russian Navy or Naval Infantry (Marines) using this template has the Jack approriate and manually changing these are time-consuming and unncessary since they could all be fixed with one switch. The same should really be done for all similar templates. There is no distinguishment between "Navy" and "Naval" and that the Ensign and Jack use those words is just grammar, not signifying anything. All instances where the "naval" template is used in articles which I have seen should use the ensign and not the jack, which should never represent the Navy "above" the ensign. --Havsjö (talk) 07:59, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

To be honest with you Havsjö, I was involved in the discussion to which I pointed above, so it's possible that I am not reading its consensus correctly. If you think that's the case, then you may want to consider opening an RfC in an appropriate venue to get a more thorough reading of consensus. My reading of consensus is as follows:

• If both the Navy and the Naval templates call the same flag, then they should be left alone so as not to break any past usages.
• If the Navy template calls the naval ensign and the Naval template calls a different naval flag, such as the naval jack, then that is acceptable.
• If the Naval template calls the naval ensign and the Navy template calls a different naval flag, such as the naval jack, then they should be switched (as done in Russia's country data template).

I am not really well-versed in these matters of flag variants and precisely what they should be, which is why I thought I had the objectivity required to read consensus correctly. I could be wrong. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 08:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

In the article about the Russian Marines, a different flag is shown: Russian Naval Infantry, so I've altered that flag alias. Hope this is better than to use the Naval Jack for the Marines. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 01:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 February 2022

@Paine Ellsworth: Replace
flag alias-1696 = Flag of Russia (1696-1917).svg
with
flag alias-1696 = Flag of Russia.svg
(the 1696-1917 file even links to another name and there is no reason why it should be lighter...
Also, keep an eye of the edits of "Illegitimate Barrister", since he seems responsible for all these dubious additions and changes and I know he has been blocked from doing edits on these pages once before after doing tons of totally arbitrary and dubious edits which resulted in a massive cleanup... Havsjö (talk) 15:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

To editor Havsjö:  done. IB's not a template editor anymore, and their last block was more than four years ago according to the block log. Plus the most recent block was deemed a mistake by the blocking admin. It's all old news now, don't you think? P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 15:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Alright then! An unfair accusation then, but these strange things I kept finding reminded me of the previous "incident" --Havsjö (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Nah, 'twas jus' li'l ol' me tryin' to right some confusing wrongs in the verbage. IB was correct when he said it would be a lot of work getting the navy/navals all correct again. But with a lot of help, including your help, I think WP is better off for it. Thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 21:48, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 September 2022

Current state:

| flag alias-rwf-wrestling = RWF logo.svg
| size = {{{size|}}}

Wanted state:

| flag alias-rwf-wrestling = RWF logo.svg
| flag alias-rjf-judo = ROC flag (2021 NWSCh).png
| size = {{{size|}}}

---

Current state:

| var15 = rwf-wrestling
| redir1 = RUS

Wanted state:

| var15 = rwf-wrestling
| var16 = rjf-judo
| redir1 = RUS

---

The logo is use by the International Judo Federation, as can be seen in the Russian Judo Federation's page on the formers website: [3].

The flag variation was tested at Template:Country data Russia/sandbox: [4].

CLalgo (talk) 09:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 09:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit request 8 October 2022

Description of suggested change: Please undo the following revision and restore flag alias-rjf-judo as the relevant file is available.

Diff: [5]

−

flag alias-rjf-judo =

+

flag alias-rjf-judo = Flag of the Russian Olympic Committee.svg

−

flag alias-rfu-football =

+

flag alias-rfu-football = Flag of the Russian Olympic Committee.svg

CLalgo (talk) 13:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Deactivated pending Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 October 8#File:Flag of the Russian Olympic Committee.svg * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:41, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't see that image being saved. Primefac (talk) 13:13, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 11 December 2022

File:Russian Paralympic Committee flag (2021).svg was deleted from commons 11:44, 11 December 2022 so now showing as hundreds of red-link errors. Not sure if it should just be removed or replaced with something, just highliighting issues here. Same thing happened to File:Russian Olympic Committee flag.svg earlier in the year. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done I've just removed it for now. Primefac (talk) 13:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)