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Heavy Neolithic

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know, unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted

• ... that the Heavy Neolithic (or Gigantolithic) industry was made by people of the Qaraoun culture at their type site Qaraoun II in Lebanon?

• Reviewed: Rule of Marteloio

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not sure it's a good idea to include two names (e.g., two bolded terms) in the hook. If you think Gigantolithic is more eye-catching, it's probably better to just use that, piping it to Heavy Neolithic.
• I also think the hook has too much information crammed into it. It can be made shorter and punchier. See User:Balloonman/DYK hooks and User:Rjanag/DYK mantra. rʨanaɢ (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment I've unboldened Gigantolithic per your advice and bracketed it. I've removed flint to make it punchier, but added Lebanon. You're right in respect that there is a lot of new information in this hook. It is designed to communicate an important and little known aspect of Neolithic development. Not sure what to do about that but punchier is always good and I am open to suggestions. I guess Gigantolithic could be removed entirely, but it's a word that will make people click. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 02:47, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

• What I was actually suggesting was getting rid of "Heavy Neolithic" and only including Gigantolithic. As for information in the hook, the purpose of the hook really is not to convey information so much as to pique a reader's interest and hopefully get them to visit the article. The current hook seems closer to a definition than a "hooky" fact. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

• Something along the lines of this may be good: ALT1 ... that Gigantolithic tools may predate the dawn of agriculture? rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:09, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

  Ok, I guess I can go with that. I might add "of the Qaraoun culture" perhaps, but you get the punchy award without it. I see your point. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 10:08, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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Everything good to go for ALT1. rʨanaɢ (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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