Template talk:French political parties

MPF, CPNT and UMP associates

Some numbuts have been insisting on including the MPF and CPNT as "associate parties" of the UMP, and that simply isn't true under any stretch of imagination. Associate parties vis-a-vis of the UMP means that these parties are almost integrated in the party and that joining one party (aka the PDC) gives you membership in the UMP at the same time - this isn't universally true as IIRC, you can now be a Radical without being a UMPer. Anyways, no such association exists or will exist between the UMP, MPF and CPNT.

The whole thing is that MPF and CPNT are joining a 'coalition' named the Liaison Committee for the Presidential Majority, which will organize co-operation between the UMP and its side-kick parties and be in charge of pleasing smaller allied parties of the UMP with pleasing spots in elections to guarantee regional and local representation for parties like NC, MPF, CPNT and others that would probably fail to gain such representation on its own. This committee is kind of like, I don't know, a kind of infrastructure to a quasi-eternal coalition of parties... I can't think of any international examples off the top of my head, though.

Anyways, if one dolt keeps on including MPF and CPNT as associate parties, I'll be pissed. So, be warned. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 19:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about the massive change I'd like to implement

Hello! To me the template seems kind of short and undetailed. At the same time, I ask for feedback and potential changes I could implement.

For context, here is how the change would look like:

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PorazonyCreeper (talk) 09:14, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

It would be helpful to have a clear definition of what constitutes the main political parties in France although personally I think this template should be reorganized into a navbox with collapsible groups which would enable it to include minor parties as well. Charles Essie (talk) 17:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems like a good idea.

I think this should be thought out, but not implemented until the consensus isn't achieved.

PorazonyCreeper (talk) 13:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Reconquête

Would Éric Zemmour's Reconquête party qualify as one of the main political parties for the purposes of this template? I am surprised to not see it, while smaller parties are present, although it might just be because the template is rarely updated. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Reframing proposal for this template

Hi! I've been thinking about reclassifying and rearranging the parties shown in this template, taking into account the results achieved in the concerning nationwide elected chambers (both the Assembly and the Senate, plus the European Parliament), in a fashion similar of that of the Spanish, German, Bulgarian or Italian analogue templates. This format could be a fairly straightforward way to define what are the main political parties in France. I tag @PorazonyCreeper, as the author of the other proposal shown in this talk page.

If the change proceeds, I'm interested in how would you establish which parties are to be named and how would they be named, given the differences between the political parties proper, the subsequent groupings in the Assembly and in the Senate, the established electoral coalitions and the legal denomination of the candidatures. These differences are a source of divergence between sources, as shown in the 2024 legislative election results case. I'm especially unsure in the cases of the RN-allied, historically LR À Droite/UXD space by one hand and of the Ensemble and NFP blocs and their internal party-wise distribution in the other, especially regarding overseas and regionalist forces within the latter. I think a compromise between the possible and differing criteria (political parties proper, coalitions, legal denominations and groupings) would be the most solid choice, but how?

Narunnaia (talk) 19:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)