Template talk:Gender and sexual identities

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Lajmmoore in topic Pinapinaaine

Several issues

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  • "Bissu" and "calabai", which both redirect to Gender in Bugis society, are listed separately, but "calalai" (and the Bugis' two cis categories) is not listed. "Muxe" is listed, but "lhamana" and "nádleehi" are not listed. Is this field meant to list all notable-&-RSed third gender categories? Or only those with their own articles? Or...?
  • "Gray asexuality", "pansexuality", "polysexuality", and "queer" are listed twice in the "sexual orientation identities" field, once in "alternative labels" and a second time immediately below as "non-binary categories". It's not clear to me what (one) sexuality "gray asexuality" would be an alternative label for, so it probably belongs in the "non-binary categories" subfield.
  • "Monosexuality" is listed in "other", while e.g. "androphilia and gynephilia" is listed in "non-binary categories", and "polysexuality" and "gray asexuality" are listed in both "non-binary categories" and another place. Why wouldn't "monosexuality" be grouped with the aforementioned terms?
  • Why is "crossdresser" listed in the "gender identities" field? Why is "skoptsy" listed at all? The latter article makes no mention of it being a gender, and indeed never even uses the word "gender".
  • "Two-spirit" is listed as a sexual orientation, but RS and indeed the lead of our article on the topic call it a third gender category, far more often than a sexual orientation, as far as I have seen. (If the label intentionally encompasses both, then perhaps, like "LGBT", it shouldn't be listed here...?)

In general this template is a bit messy. -sche (talk) 03:07, 19 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Also, why are "bi-curious" and "heteroflexibility" in two different categories, viz. "alternative labels" and "non-binary categories"? -sche (talk) 04:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
I have added the link to the third Bugis third gender; removed Skoptsy; moved two-spirit back from being listed as sexual orientation to being listed as a gender category since that's how it's mostly discussed in our article and RS (but with an edit summary noting that perhaps, like "LGBT", editors will feel it is simply too broad to list in this template, or perhaps it should be put in the "See also" field?); removed some of the duplicate entries mentioned above; and also removed the duplicate link to "third gender" which was both the title of one of the fields (and linked there) and also listed as one of the entries, since none of the other fields contain themselves (e.g. [[Sexual orientation]] is not listed inside the list of sexual orientations). I also strove for consistency in which part of speech was being used, e.g. avoiding aliasing the link to Monogamy as "Monogamous" right next to a link to Non-monogamy, which just looked unprofessionally inconsistent. Other issues remain to be addressed. -sche (talk) 05:02, 20 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Pinapinaaine

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Hello All, as part of Wiki Loves Pride I began a stub for pinapinaaine from Tuvalu and I wondered if the term could be added to the template alongside fa'afafine, etc.? Many thanks, Lajmmoore (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)Reply