Template talk:HBO

Contested deletion

This template, Template:HBO, should not be speedy deleted as not being usefully employed and being either a substantial duplicate or hardcoded instance of another template, because it was created on a similar basis as other templates focused on the multinational corporate structure of a U.S.-based television network (such as Template:ESPN and Template:Nickelodeon). In addition, the reasoning for deletion by the person who tagged it was actually made after the user copy-pasted the template structure into Template:WarnerMedia Studios & Networks, effectively forcing deletion based on reasoning citing their own folding of content that wasn't previously included in the mentioned template. Instead, the HBO template could be kept as is but placed within the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template. --TVTonightOKC (talk) 06:16, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

It is an unnecessary template and was previously deleted as a duplicated template in early 2019. What you should have done is start a discussion on recreating the HBO template, as what you effectively did was recreate a duplicated template with a few more articles, a few plain text names (should be avoided), an executives, defunct and former ventures, and a miscellaneous sections — you could have added this to the already existing HBO section of the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template that it is part of, and there is the problem of having too many templates. The Defunct and former ventures section was problematic in that you had information that belongs in the article which would have references to support it, whereas this is a navbox for navigating. In addition, it has plain text names which should be avoided even though I kept these, but may have to be removed. There is not much value in keeping the HBO template "as is but placed within the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template" — it's small that it works well as a section as you can see in the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template. Steven (Editor) (talk) 07:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

In this case, an AfD discussion on the template could have been used (and may well be needed) instead of a Speedy Deletion request to provide a better consensus on how to deal with the template (keep, merge, tree or delete). I am not aware of any similar template being created in 2019, as I have never seen such a template placed in the main HBO article. The closest to one from prior to my creation of the template in September was one focused on HBO's original programming. TVTonightOKC (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Tvtonightokc, completely forgot about this. Yeah I'll take this template to AfD which would be better, and maybe you didn't see this template but it was deleted as a duplicated template in early 2019. Steven (Editor) (talk) 09:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)