Template talk:Infobox book series

Image syntax and unknown parameters

The image syntax for this template should be updated to the new standard of bare filename, as with {{Infobox book}} and others. Also, can the functionality be added that identifies the use of unknown parameters in preview? Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 16:52, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

This template also uses |image_caption= instead of |caption=; I know this has been changed in many other infobox templates but I don't know where and when the original discussion occurred for that update.— TAnthony^Talk 16:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Per WP:TESTCASES, may you put your change in Template:Infobox book series/sandbox and re-open (|answered=no) the request then? You're probably suggesting using Module:InfoboxImage like {{Infobox book}} does. The functionality that identifies unknown params requires Module:Check for unknown parameters, which is also what {{Infobox book}} is using at the bottom of its text. |caption= can be added as an alias. If you need help, ping and I can take a look. Thanks, — Andy W. (talk) 18:38, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, template code is not my area of expertise so if I attempt this myself it will be awhile. Yes though, I believe those are the modules from {{Infobox book}} that would add the functionality I'm talking about. I've been trying to find the discussions regarding what I called "the new standard" as far as infoboxes moving toward this, no luck so far but Magioladitis or Frietjes may recall. Frietjes has added the tracking category Pages using deprecated image syntax to some infoboxes for me in the past.— TAnthony^Talk 15:01, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

TAnthony, probably done. let me know if I missed something. Frietjes (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! — TAnthony^Talk 15:52, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 31 October 2016

The request is to invoke Module:InfoboxImage:

Currently the template has:

| image  = {{{image|}}}

I would ask that this line be changed to:

| image  = {{#invoke:InfoboxImage|InfoboxImage|image={{{image|}}}|size={{{image_size|}}}|alt={{{alt|}}}|suppressplaceholder=no}}

Note that I updated Template:Infobox book series/sandbox and checked the testcases and they all look good. Also note that while suppressplaceholder=no is not required, without it the test cases will not displayed the images as they are placeholder images.

Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 03:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. This change seems to have no effect, which prompts me to ask why it should be considered an improvement to this template?  Paine  ^u/c 04:52, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: it in fact has multiple effects. The Module is in use on nearly every infobox on Wikipedia as it renders the image in a much cleaner fashion. It also adds the maintenance category Category:Pages using infoboxes with thumbnail images for those pages where a thumbnail is incorrectly used in the infobox. This didn't seem the least bit controversial which is why I chose to make the request. @Andy M. Wang:, you just helped me do this on {{Infobox single}} perhaps you can chime in here and assist? --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 05:28, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Seems like there were some issues at Ibox Single and hope they've been resolved. I have no problem with this as long as Andy W. is involved.  Paine  ^u/c 05:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: I'm curious did you even read the discussion? There was an issue in that there was a tiny typo when the edit was made. If you read the thread you would see that it was resolved. --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 05:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Of course I read it. I saw the issues pointed out by John of Reading and SMcCandlish in addition to the missing pipe. I would resent your implication, but I prefer to AGF.  Paine  ^u/c 05:52, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Zackmann08, Paine Ellsworth, I can take a closer look in the next day or so, sorry, a bit away today/tomorrow. I had a concern with the edit request right above this section, that a new standard of bare filename could be breaking (hence the conditional logic for |image= for {{Infobox book}} right now?), again, haven't looked in detail... don't know if the same applies here yet — Andy W. (talk) 07:05, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Looks like this has been done. — Andy W. (talk) 17:26, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Andy M. Wang: does indeed! Thanks Frietjes. --Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 17:32, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Cover artist(s)

Since this is for a series of books, it may be good to add a cover_artists parameter in case there are multiple cover artists for the series. As it is now, there is no way for it to display "Cover artists" when there are multiples. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:29, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

ISSN parameter

This template should have an ISSN parameter the way Template:Infobox magazine and Template:Infobox journal do, since the identifier can be used for serially published books just the same as it can for magazines and journals. To give an example (and the reason I noticed this), the Yale Series of Younger Poets Competition publishes an unpublished author's first book of poetry each year. It's assigned ISSN 0084-3458, but it wouldn't be right to call it a magazine or journal. Even something like Animorphs has an ISSN (it's 1281-6922). —BLZ · talk 03:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata integration

It would be good to be able to pull in info from Wikidata. I have no idea how that would be done, but it would help enforce consistency between encyclopedia/database entries. Legowerewolf (talk) 00:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Original title (bug?)

The template now displays "Original title" even when the parameter is not filled, e.g. see Harry Potter. Perhaps this was caused by one of the recent edits (pinging Jonesey95); just wanted to ask if this new behavior is intentional or a bug. Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 06:36, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that was a bug introduced in my recent edits to improve italic formatting. I have fixed it. Thank you for reporting it, my robotic colleague. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Italicised dates

This template seems to italicise everything in the "books" parameter, even if the formatting used in the infobox avoids doing so. For example, at Culture series,

''[[Consider Phlebas]]'' (1987)

within {{plainlist}} in the parameter gives

Consider Phlebas (1987)

rather than

Consider Phlebas (1987)

and so on. Or at A Song of Ice and Fire

''[[A Game of Thrones]]'' (1996)

gives

A Game of Thrones (1996)

Is this supposed to happen, and if so, why? Pinging User:Jonesey95 as this edit looks like it may have been responsible, though I don't really do templates so could be wrong. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

My edit, linked to above, certainly caused this to happen, as I indicated as a possibility in the edit summary. The documentation appears to indicate that publication dates go in |pub_date=, not in |books=, but putting the years in |books= seems logical as well. I'm happy to undo my edit or attempt a more sophisticated way to italicize titles while leaving the years alone if there is consensus that years are OK to place in |books=. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Apologies Jonesey95, I think I must have overlooked your very clear edit summary as I was too busy trying to get my head around the code itself. I think there's an informal consensus that years do belong in that parameter, as indicated by the number of articles using that format; fair enough if you'd prefer a discussion to arrive at something more definitive, but undoing in the meantime would still be the next step, I think. The documentation does suggest using |pub_date=, but it's hard to see how it would be possible to do so while also conveying the (surely useful) publication date of each individual book. (I wonder if the documentation was just carried across from Template:Infobox book when this was created, and never amended to make it more appropriate?) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I have removed the italic formatting from |books=. Let me know if further changes are needed. I have this page on my watchlist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:40, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Could you copy over a 1-line change from the sandbox (diff) - this is to enable partially italic titles such as Winternight trilogy to be displayed above the infobox. Currently it's always fully italic: see /testcases#Italic titles for a comparison. (MOS:SERIESTITLE asks for this type of partial italicization in some cases.) Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 01:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done. This looked like a harmless change, but once again, this may have unintended consequences, so drop a note here if I broke something. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:45, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Classification

This template should include sections for classification under DDC and LCC as the Template:Infobox_book does. Most works within a series will be classified the same way, and in many cases the classification data is printed with the publisher information inside the front cover, so this is useful information which is determinable objectively. Thanks! Gustopherd (talk) 23:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)