Template talk:Infobox coin

Latest comment: 2 years ago by GA-RT-22 in topic Image positioning

Additional Fields, 20 July 2010

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I'm a newish user, and was messing around with the template. I've added three new fields, shape, center hole diameter, and coin orientation. I think I've gotten that right, but I was trying to make the thickness line disappear if not filled in using a <include only>|</include only>, and it didn't work. Why? (I put spaces in that to neuter it.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon423 (talkcontribs) 04:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Mintmarks

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How about addin a section for mintmarks, or put it into years of minting? Joe I 17:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Catalog Number

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In the templete. How many coins actually have one there? Dime doesn't. And what catalog? Joe I 12:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Optional troy oz and inch parameters added

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I added an optional mass in troy oz and diameter and thinkness in inches field. I thought that would be useful considering that many coins are 1 troy oz. You can see how this looks at American Buffalo (coin) or below. MJCdetroit 16:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Here are the entry fields from that article:

{{Infobox Coin |
  Country             = United States |
  Denomination        = $50 |
  Value               = $800 (Proof), 4-5% above spot (Bullion) |
  Unit                = [[United States dollar|U.S. dollars]] |
  Mass                = 31.108|
  Mass_troy_oz        = 1.0001 |
  Diameter            = 32.7 |
  Diameter_inch       = 1.287  |
  Thickness           = 2.95 |
  Thickness_inch      = 0.116  |
  Edge                = Reeded |
  Composition         = 99.99% (24K) [[Gold]] |
  Years of Minting    = 2006–Present |
  Catalog Number = BA6 |
  Obverse             = 2006 American Buffalo Proof Obverse.jpg |
  Obverse Design      = [[Native Americans in the United States|American Indian]] |
  Obverse Designer    = [[James Earle Fraser]]'s design of the [[Indian Head nickel|Buffalo nickel]] was modified for the American Buffalo coin. |
  Obverse Design Date = [[1913]] |
  Reverse             = 2006 American Buffalo Proof Reverse.jpg |
  Reverse Design      = [[American Bison|American Buffalo]] |
  Reverse Designer    = [[James Earle Fraser]]'s design of the [[Indian Head nickel|Buffalo nickel]] was modified for the American Buffalo coin. |
  Reverse Design Date = [[1913]]
}} 
$50
United States
Value$800 (Proof), 4-5% above spot (Bullion) U.S. dollars
Mass31.108 g (1.0001 troy oz)
Diameter32.7 mm (1.287 in)
Thickness2.95 mm (0.116 in)
EdgeReeded
Composition99.99% (24K) Gold
Years of minting2006–Present
Catalog numberBA6
Obverse
 
DesignAmerican Indian
DesignerJames Earle Fraser's design of the Buffalo nickel was modified for the American Buffalo coin.
Design date1913
Reverse
 
DesignAmerican Buffalo
DesignerJames Earle Fraser's design of the Buffalo nickel was modified for the American Buffalo coin.
Design date1913


Why just troy ounces? The United States Mint wasn't satisfied with just the two systems it had been using, troy and metric; in the 1960s they also added the avoirdupois system to their repertoire, changed the dimes (and quarters, etc.), which had been $40/kg, to $20/lb avdp. The dime, for example, is now 0.0800 oz avdp or 0.005 lb avdp (200 dimes to an avoirdupois pound). This doesn't work out so nice and even in troy ounces, however. It is 35 troy grains; with 480 of those grains in a troy ounce, it is 796 oz troy, which as a decimal is 0.0729166666... oz troy.
As a matter of fact, none of the current regular-issue U.S. coins are round numbers in troy ounces, are they? The pennies used to be 110 of a troy ounce, but the modern zinc ones are metric, 2.5 grams. Gene Nygaard 04:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Inscriptions

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Would like to add an Inscriptions line, preferably under the Design line. Inscriptions stated within the design feild clutter and confuse the actual design. Lots of work changing back and forth, so wanted to ask ya'll first.. Joe I 20:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I can do that. I would also like to add orientation. Just a question, what kind of values would this "inscription" have? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Basically just the same as the "design" field. One or two lines to write the short phrases. See Marine Corps 230th Anniversary Silver Dollar for a crowded design field. As for orientation, what would be the easiest way to express that? Simply "up" or "down" or "reversed" or "horizontal"? Joe I 08:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Coin v.s. medallic --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 09:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ahh, I see. So simply an "orientation" field with "coin" or "medallic" as the value within? Sounds easy enough. Maybe add it in with edge and composititon, since it's a built-in feature of the coin. No problems. Joe I 09:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Place to put note?

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Many of the British decimal coins have gone through a number of changes in design, size, weight etc. over the years. The infobox information seems mostly to relate to the currently minted version, which is potentially misleading, especially when earlier variants may still be in circulation. I have made some edits to British two pence coin and British one penny coin to try to cover the earlier versions, but then it struck me that it might be better to have the infobox cover the current version only, and insert some explanatory text at the top of it, reading something like "This data relates to the currently minted standard circulation coin. See the article for variants and earlier versions." I would do this but I cannot find a way to insert the text at the top of the box. Any thoughts? Matt 17:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Template design "too clever"?

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A peculiar and (to me) unhelpful feature of this template is the way that the values you enter are messed about with for display. For example, in British two pound coin the entries "Value = 2.0, Unit = [[Pound sterling]]" combine to read "2.0 Pound sterling". It should read "2 pounds sterling", but to achieve this one apparently needs to set "Unit" to "pounds sterling" (plural) which seems wrong.

Another example: "mm" is automatically appended to the dimension, so in British one penny coin, the entry must read "Thickness = ([[Bronze]]) 1.52 mm<br>([[Steel]]) 1.65" with "mm" stated in one place but not another. Furthermore it seems impossible to get the text to read

1.52 mm (bronze)
1.65 mm (steel)

as I want.

OK, so neither of these is a huge deal, but I just feel life would be easier if you just typed exactly what you wanted to appear, without having the template trying to be "clever" with it. Matt 13:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

what about edge image

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Many coins have interesting edges (for instance, the new US dollar coins), so it would be nice to have an image of the edge, as well as the obverse and reverse. --WhiteDragon 15:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Euro

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As the euro coins have numerous designs for one side, the template cannot feasibly be used on those pages. Could someone adjust this template so it is no longer required to display information on the reverse side (perhaps replaced by a "see below" message or something)? Thanks. - JLogant: 10:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Oh and perhaps provision for the edge to be shown?- JLogant: 15:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Catalogue number

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Hi,
Could we have a flag that allows the display of the prompt as "Catalogue number" in standard English, rather than "Catalog" which is employed by some fraction of Americans and possibly no one else?
Varlaam (talk) 00:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

I second this. 94.197.176.200 (talk) 00:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Grains

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I've added grains as a possible field, because many early U.S. coin weights were based on grains.-RHM22 (talk) 23:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

I've also added a field for mint marks.-RHM22 (talk) 17:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Precious metal content?

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I'd like to have fields for silver content (or gold, I believe platinum not needed) in troy ounces and grams. Is there someone who can set this up? I believe we are routinely consulted by people wanting to find out how much silver is in the quarter they found in Grandma's attic. Right now, they look in vain.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

British English

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I've added an optional parameter which introduces British English ("catalogue") if desired. The instructions can be found in the documentation section.-RHM22 (talk) 18:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Image positioning

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Could the image fields be moved to the top of the infobox? Cloudbound (talk) 11:04, 14 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I second this. Per WP:LEAD, the image "provides a visual association for the topic, and allow readers to quickly assess if they have arrived at the right page". The image on coin articles serves this purpose poorly, because I have to scroll down to find it. This is particularly important for coin articles, because I may have a coin I'm trying to identify, and the easiest way to do that is to check the images. GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Orientation

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I think that a coin orientation field should be added to this infobox. Thoughts? - ZLEA T\C 02:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Preceded by/succeeded by; next higher value/lower value

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It would be nice to indicate the successor/predecessor coins such as the Jefferson nickel succeeding the Buffalo nickel or shillings, farthings, etc. being replaced by something.

Also would be nice to see the next higher/next lower value coins/bank notes, if any, e.g.the Scottish unicorn. Cheers, Facts707 (talk) 03:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply