Template talk:Infobox executive government
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Terminology
editState is a close term (usually for federated states or/and sovereign state). Jurisdiction (government entity) is more broad sense (like Palestinian National Authority became State of Palestine). Also, the headquarters (like Template:Infobox organization) is more matching word than address. --IM-yb (talk) 08:03, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- We don't use Latin words like that. It is an Americanism. "State" is only for states, i.e. sovereign entities. This article is for British/Continental-style parliamentary governments. It is not for the Palestinian authority, nor American-style presidential systems. RGloucester — ☎ 14:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Ministries
editAbout ministries, in many countries, each government change the number of ministries/departments. Τhe number of ministries is not standard. --IM-yb (talk) 08:19, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, and we can change the number if it changes. The composition of the government in terms of structure is important. RGloucester — ☎ 14:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Other governments
editThis box is for pages on the structures of executive governments in some countries. And what about the other governments? --IM-yb (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Presidential systems do not have "governments" in this sense. RGloucester — ☎ 17:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
What about the government of Canada?
editIs that true? --IM-yb (talk) 10:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
border
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Type | Central government |
I beleve it is better to be a data parameter. --IM-yb (talk) 15:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- In {{Infobox organization}} we have the parameter "type". Style should be the same as the {{Infobox government agency}} for uniformity. --IM-yb (talk) 16:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC) see also MXQ box 4k
- Oppose – This parameter is specific to a certain class of articles, and is already used by Template:Infobox monarchy. It should appear as it does. RGloucester — ☎ 17:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Border used only for infoboxes about a seat.
- {{Infobox monarchy}}
- {{Infobox Bishopric}}
Not for infoboxes about a collective entity.
We should not confuse the style of infoboxes. --IM-yb (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- You don't understand. In countries with a constitutional monarchy, the government is the monarch's. There is a direct correlation that must be maintained. RGloucester — ☎ 17:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I do not understand how can connect a template about a seat with a template about a collective entity. As you can observe, the border is only used in templates about a seat. The addition of the border creates a disharmony between the templates of collective entities. I understand that you do not care about the coverage of all government systems and similar infoboxes with a consistent and responsible manner. You say here This article is for British/Continental-style parliamentary governments. I ask What about the government of Canada?, and you do not participate in the talk page section. You do not cooperate to improve the template. You make a private infobox (confuse styles from disparate templates) to cover your own purposes. --IM-yb (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know how the government of Canada article is set up. From the looks of it, that article is about government in the American sense, and hence should not use this template. I don't think you understand that this is not an organisation template. This is a template for governments as used in Britain, France, &c. I created this template to fill a niche that had not be filled previously, i.e. a template specifically for the British/continental sense of the word "government". I don't know your cultural background, but it seems you have trouble understand that in a constitutional monarchy, as like in Britain, there is a direct link between the government and the monarch that requires a continuity in the templates. RGloucester — ☎ 21:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
If this template created for the UK governments (central and devolved) this template should be renamed to "Infobox UK central and devolved governments". The addition "federal" does not match with any country, because the only country I know it has a federal parliamentary system is Germany, and that country composed of states. The template has parameter state and is not compatible. This template is for very limited use --IM-yb (talk) 13:22, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Those are optional parameters, and needn't be used if they are not needed. Germany is a state. This template has great usage across continental Europe. RGloucester — ☎ 15:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
RfC: Bringing this template in line with other governance templates
editHey all! I just wanted to garnish your opinions about editing this template to bring it in line with {{Infobox government agency}}. Certain niches of this template, such as using a serif font for the type of government, and not having a native name option, really make this outdated. How do we feel about redesigning and developing this template based off {{Infobox government agency}}? ItsPugle (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
suggestion
editHi, I suggest to replace the word "leader" with "president".مغوار (talk) 07:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)