Template talk:Infobox mine/Archive 1

Archive 1

Color changes

OK buddy lets list some possibilities:

• Pale Copper (Crayola Copper) (Hex: #DA8A67) (RGB: 218, 138, 103)
• Copper (Hex: #B87333) (RGB: 184, 115, 51)

Actually looking at them I like the look of Slate gray. A darker grey with white text. What do you think? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Blofeld's mining gray
Color coordinates
Hex triplet	#708090
sRGBB (r, g, b)	(112, 128, 144)
HSV (h, s, v)	(210°, 22%, 56%)
CIELChuv (L, C, h)	(53, 17, 239°)
Source	X11
B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)

Gray, boring as it is, suits mining fine, its sort of a rock color. EA210269 (talk) 10:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. COuld we try one of these colors with white text to see how it looks? ~~

Blofeld's darker mining gray
Color coordinates
Hex triplet	#36454F
sRGBB (r, g, b)	(54, 69, 79)
HSV (h, s, v)	(204°, 32%, 31%)
CIELChuv (L, C, h)	(28, 12, 231°)
Source	X11
B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)

Try Blofeld's mining gray! EA210269 (talk) 10:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I like that one it has a more metallic finish on it. We'll have to figure out how to change the text color to white though, it always seems to vary in how you do it". OK I'll add the slate gray which is of course a direct reference to slate mining! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

It definately stands out! Its as minig color alright! EA210269 (talk) 10:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll ask somebody to change it later but add white text at the same time unless of course you know how to get the text to change to white?. I've reverted it back to the original at present OK? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The header in a different color then the rest looks a little odd. I'm for keeping it all the same. EA210269 (talk) 10:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

OK I've figured out the white anyway. Bear with me... Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I've done some trialing. The main problem with the darker grey was when the pushpin map features it shades the background in too darker so the overall result; the box was too dark. I've reversed it now so we now have the silver grey back, a lighter tone, but we now have a cool slate gray text on the lighter grey. Good? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You ought to look into seeing how to remove the grey background from the maps. See Ebenezer Colliery. Really that map section background should be white. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, I'm not all that skilled when it comes to templates, I just see what other people created and copy and adapt to my purpose. Its therefore very likely that the template is flawed in some way. EA210269 (talk) 10:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I've asked Kirill to see if he can remove the block silver from around the maps. I think it has to do with the way the box is made, it is programmed more like a nav box than an infobox with the leader/body style etc. Hopefully he can fix that problem. Once that is done I may retry the slate grey with white again and see how it renders. It should be OK at the mo though. We'll see how it looks when Kirill edits it. Regards. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I'm sure, an expert (not me!) can sort it out easily. Have fun, EA210269 (talk) 10:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Suggestions

Would it be possible / preferable to add a spot in the infobox for production data and confirmed / estimated reserves? Most mines seem to supply this highly relevant information and it would be expedient to call this info out in the infobox vs. burying it in text. Bantman (talk) 23:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

There is always room for inmprovemnet, but two things need to be considered: We don't want the infobox to be to large. Secondly, from my experience, every change will have to be updated in every article that uses the infobox, quite a task, I've done it before! Now, there may be a way around that, we would have to speak to an expert, its beyound my skills. But improvements to the infobox are always wellcome! EA210269 (talk) 06:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Map placement

There is a problem over using the map facility on the template. Firstly map_width is not in the documentation. Secondly when it is set to the same as width, to get the map and the image the same size, the map is left justified and the image is centred so the two do not line up. The map image needs to be centred in the box as per the image to enable the image/map display to look sensible. Keith D (talk) 23:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Update to infobox

I'm proposing to add the following to the infobox:

{{#if:{{{pushpin_map|}}}|
<tr class="mergedrow">
<td colspan="2" style="text-align:center" align="center"><center>
{{Location map|{{{pushpin_map|}}}
|label = {{#ifeq: {{lc: {{{pushpin_label_position|}}} }} | none | | {{#if:{{{pushpin_label|}}}|{{{pushpin_label}}}|{{#if:{{{name|}}}|{{{name}}}|{{{official_name|}}}}}}} }}
|alt = {{{pushpin_map_alt|}}}
|lat = {{#if:{{{latm|}}}{{{latNS|}}}| |{{{latd|}}} }}
|long = {{#if:{{{longm|}}}{{{longEW|}}}| |{{{longd|}}} }}
|lat_deg={{#if:{{{latm|}}}{{{latNS|}}}|{{{latd|}}}| }}
|lat_min={{#if:{{{latm|}}}{{{latNS|}}}|{{{latm|}}}| }}
|lat_sec={{#if:{{{lats|}}}{{{latNS|}}}|{{{lats|}}}| }}
|lat_dir={{#if:{{{latNS|}}}|{{{latNS|}}}| }}
|lon_deg={{#if:{{{longm|}}}{{{longEW|}}}|{{{longd|}}}| }}
|lon_min={{#if:{{{longm|}}}{{{longEW|}}}|{{{longm|}}}| }}
|lon_sec={{#if:{{{longs|}}}{{{longEW|}}}|{{{longs|}}}| }}
|lon_dir={{#if:{{{longEW|}}}|{{{longEW|}}}| }}
|marksize =6
|float = none
|caption =
|border = none
|position = {{{pushpin_label_position|}}}
|width = {{#if:{{{pushpin_mapsize|}}}|{{{pushpin_mapsize|}}} | 250 }}
|AlternativeMap = {{{pushpin_image|}}}
}}{{#if:{{{pushpin_map_caption|}}}|<small>{{{pushpin_map_caption}}}</small>|{{#if:{{{map_caption|}}}|<small>{{{map_caption}}}</small>}}}}
{{coord|{{{latd|}}}|{{{latm|}}}|{{{lats|}}}|{{{latNS|}}}|{{{longd|}}}|{{{longm|}}}|{{{longs|}}}|{{{longEW|}}}|type:{{#if:{{{coordinates_type|}}}|{{{coordinates_type}}}|landmark}}{{#if:{{{scale|}}}|_scale:{{{scale}}}}}{{#if:{{{coordinates_region|}}}|_region:{{{coordinates_region}}}}}|display=inline,title}}
</center></td>
</tr>
}}

and mark

|<center>{{Location map|{{{location}}}
|lat={{{lat}}}
|long={{{long}}}
|float=none|{{#if:{{{map_width|}}}
|width={{{map_width}}}}}
}}</center>

as depreciated but not removed.

I've tried it out at User:CambridgeBayWeather/Sandbox and the results can be seen here. Making this addition would allow the current version to continue working as seen in the first example. The addition would also bring the coordinates into the infobox and the title making it consistent with other infoboxes. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 13:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Add hCard microformat

I've added an hCard microformat in the sandbox; please copy the code across. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 16:42, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, when that was done {{documentation}} was removed and an unnecessary {{Sandboxnotice}} added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed. Better to keep the sandbox syncronised with the live for this reason. The doc template adds the sandbox notice automatically anyway. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Change request: reordering history (i.e. dates) before ownership

Requesting a change to the template (hopefully this page is watched): can the section on "history" be moved to above that of the owner? Namely, I think knowledge about whether a mine is active (i.e. its operation history) is of more immediate importance to the average reader than the current owner and their information (which is likely relevant to only those that follow the industry). Owners (and their information, some of which I don't think is relevant because it's company information, not mine information) are transient and change over the years, as is not an inherent property of the mine, whereas operation status is a fundamental property inherent to the mine itself. Also, isn't the field "opened" redundant with the first date in the field "active"? As in, whenever a mine became active is when it opened. Any thoughts? Morgan Riley (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Moving the sections around would probably be quite easy, you just have to make sure it hasn't a negative effect on the articles the template is used for. When I added the "Owner" section to the template on creation it was for the purpose of easy access to information on the mine. The company's website and it's stock market announcements (if listed) are often the only up to date source of information on the mines. The "opened" and "active" parameters are fore mines that have opened, closed and reopened and so on, like the Wiluna Gold Mine, which opened in 1896 but closed three times since, therefore has four periods of activity. That is something not unusual in Western Australian gold mines, which rise and fall with the gold price and improved mining technices. Anyway, hope this gives you more of an inside into what my thoughts and ideas were when creating the template. Feel free to improve it, just make sure it hasn't got any knock-on effects. Calistemon (talk) 04:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Completely makes sense now that I read the documentation; It seems some folks misapplied those date parameters on the pages I looked at (ex. both "opened 1867, active 1867-95", leading me to believe otherwise and that it was redundant (so I need to correct those pages). Thanks for the clarification. Since it is red-lock protected, to get it to be changed/add a parameter capable of "active" "inactive" "defunct", do I just do a sandbox proposal and contact an admin? Morgan Riley (talk) 04:35, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

By the looks of this, the request has already been made but the admin contacted seems to be fairly inactive now. Best to contact User:Thumperward, he is always very involved with templates and has a good insight. Calistemon (talk) 05:03, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Changes made, more may be coming depending on how my coding feels. Thusfar: reordered somewhat; added fields for embedding NRHP and Superfund infoboxes so they show up right, and added field "type", for whether open-pit, underground, hydraulic placer, etc. Let me know if there is anything else that may be desired or of use.Morgan Riley (talk) 07:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)