Template talk:Lerner and Loewe

I'm not entirely happy with this page. I don't know any other Lerner and Loewe musicals but various websites attribute others to them. Lerner websites seem to attribute a few more while Loewe's seem to attribute Great Lady which was actually written before the two had met!

If anyone can fix it up, go ahead. Also, Gigi actually links to the page about the book and the musical, there is no independent page for it. Daydream believer2 06:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I have put these titles in chronological order which seems to be customary with these templates. Also, I removed the film version of Paint Your Wagon. If you're going to list it, why not list all the other film versions (My Fair Lady, Camelot, etc.) too? The only reason Gigi should be listed as both a film and a musical is because the stage production had an expanded score. ConoscoTutto 19:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Please feel free to put in chrono order again and add the other film versions if you wish. Templates like articles are a work in progress here. You might ask the creator of the template what their wishes are (if they are still here as an editor). The film production of PYW had an expanded score from the musical with new songs including The Best Things in Life are Dirty and Gold Fever. MarnetteD | Talk 02:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the addition of just two songs to a film adaptation of a stage production constitutes a major change in the project. The stage version of Gigi had several musical numbers added to the film's score so it warrants separate mention. Composers write their score only once, so listing the stage show and the movie version in the template seems redundant to me. I'm confused by your comment that I should ask the template's creator what his wishes are. Just yesterday I was told Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and editors are welcome to make changes to any articles. Doesn't this mean the originator really doesn't have any claim to its content? Thank you. ConoscoTutto 14:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I should have typed that there were several new songs in PYW, I only gave two titles as an example. With the differing nature of film and theater composers often make large changes to their scores at the request of various directors. If you had ever seen the stage version of PYW you might understand what I am talking about. They are virtually two different works of art. As to your other point in a collabrative enviroment like wikipedia, while not required, it can be a polite idea to ascertain what the original idea behind an item like a template was before tossing out several items. I prefer inclusiveness over excluding items but, of course, many editors feel differently. Be aware that this thought does not apply to articles. I feel that all of the movies should be included in this template box as these boxes are meant to give readers access to as many items as they might be interested in with just one click on a link as possible. Removing the films means that they might have to go to two or three pages to find what they are most curious about. I apologize if my previous notes were rude or off-putting as these ideas are just food for thought and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 19:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)