Template talk:Lycoming County, Pennsylvania

Bodies of water

I think that bodies of water could be added to this template. Is their a wiki policy against adding bodies of water to county templates? Dincher 22:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know of a specific policy, but limited the template to municipalities in the spirit of WP:NAV Paragraph 1; keeping templates to a manageable size. If we include bodies of water, where do you draw the line? Why not include other geographic features....then suddenly the template is over-sized and reduces its usefulness. If there's going to be a template with bodies of water, I think it should be a new template with a name like {{Bodies of water in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania}} or {{Natural geography of Lycoming County, Pennsylvania}}. VerruckteDan 22:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I hadn't considered how much it could grow. Dincher 22:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I had thought about making a nav box for the West Branch Susquehanna River (or maybe the whole Susquehanna River) and there are two early and incomplete attempts at the bottom of my User:Ruhrfisch/Sandbox. I like the second (bottom) one better - what do you think? Ruhrfisch 01:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I like the looks of the 2nd template. VerruckteDan 02:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I second the 2nd Dincher 20:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - I am not sure how to include tributaries of the tributaries (they are in parentheses following the main trib now). The first template is based on the one for the Potomac River. The West Branch tribs in the second nav box is also nowhere near complete. I will work on it as I can but am pretty busy right now. Ruhrfisch 04:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Communities

I removed the communities (villages) from this template. It was incomplete and I don't think they are needed in the first place. The county is full of little unincorporated communities: Nisbet, Collomsville, Oval, Oriole, Waterville, Barbours, are just a view that come to mind. Dincher (talk) 04:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The current listing is far from all of the communities in Lycoming County. We could add List of villages in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania to the template. That is a complete list. Dincher (talk) 03:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

map link shows all the places on the map in Lycoming County. I lived there most of my life. I recognize most of them, but there's more than a few I've never heard of. What's the criteria for including the "Communities." Sylvan Dell is a lovely little section of houses that was formerly a trolley park for Williamsport. But it hardly seems to be a community. It's just a place out in the country. Dincher (talk) 04:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I am ok with the villages being added I guess. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Waitin' to hear from Nyytend. --Dincher (talk) 05:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

There is an edit war going on now - the Census Bureau has added some new CDPs in lycoming County though I've only seen it own maps so far. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

My preference is to wait for the census info and add the CDP's, but exclude any place that is not a CDP or a municipality. Dincher (talk) 21:03, 5 February 2011 (UTC) The communities list is still incomplete. Why aren't we working to solve this problem? The back and forth of editing isn't getting us anywhere. Dincher (talk) 20:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

The new 2010 Census results are trickling out and there are several new CDPs in Lycoming County, including Faxon (which used to be a CDP until 1990). So far I can only find the new CDPs on maps - see here. The others (besides Faxon and Garden View) are Oval, Kenmar, and a bit of Rauchtown. I know the standard is that all populated places are notable, but I think including red links in a nav box defeats the purpose of a nav box. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't like replying on my own talk page, but no point in replying to both of you separately :-) The point of a navigational template is to allow one to go from article to article, not to list every community in a county; for that reason, I don't like having redlinks on a template unless I'm in the middle of writing articles about them. Throughout the Commonwealth (as in all other US states), we include unincorporated communities; there's no reason to remove Cedar Run from the Lycoming County template but to leave communities such as Fombell on the Beaver County template. As far as Watkinsian — the whole point of a template is to reflect information on templates, and verifiability for such templates depends on the articles. Watkinsian continues to add information that's not in sources (and in some cases, goes against the sources on the articles); if s/he found sources and wrote articles, I wouldn't complain, but without any sources the changes are bigtime problematic. Ruhrfisch, I'm really busy this coming week; could you please put together some stubs (even if they're as short as Orchard Island, Ohio) on the new CDPs that you've found? Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I can make stubs. Thanks for the model article. I first brought this up on the template talk page, then came here when there was no response there. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Moved discussion here. Dincher (talk) 14:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)