Template talk:Modern liberalism US/Archive 1

Archive 1

Template issues

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At the time of the closure of this discussion regarding Template:Modern liberalism US footer, the template was moved from "Leftism in the United States" to "Modern liberalism in the United States" on 09:38, 12 June 2017. --Wow (talk) 14:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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I find that there are many issues in this template. First of all, it is labeled "Liberalism in the United States" but its name is "Leftism in the United States". Not only are these concepts unequal (liberalism is not necessarily left-wing, nor does it include all leftist ideals), as liberalism is a loose term that has changed throughout history, especially in American history. It could refer to classical liberalism and economic liberalism, which are often contradictory to left-wing ideologies. Modern liberalism is commonly associated with the American left, but this is not made clear in the template (even American modern liberalism is more center-left than actually left, for that matter). There is an obvious inconsistency with the template and the article title.

Also, the selection of people who supposedly represent American liberalism is arbitrary and subjective. How exactly is Robert Byrd, a notoriously conservative Democrat (probably a Dixiecrat), a major figure of US liberalism? These people seems like they were selected at random simply because of their political affiliation.

This template looks very poorly made and unhelpful in its current state and needs some major improvements. Any suggestions? NoMoreHeroes (talk) 07:10, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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I have a suggestion.

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At the time of the closure of this discussion regarding Template:Modern liberalism US footer, the view, talk, and edit options appear on the template. --Wow (talk) 14:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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Yes, I have a suggestion. First of all, the V-T-E (View, Talk & Edit) options need to be clearly shown on the template. Then, this template needs to be easy to edit. I'm trying to (correctly) add names to the template myself. Mr. Brain (talk) 01:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

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Edit request on 8 May 2023

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This edit request was marked as answered on 14:59, 9 May 2023. The section in question was split apart on 07:42, 24 November 2023. --Wow (talk) 07:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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Should the infobox’s people section, be split apart like Template:Conservatism US? 216.49.130.15 (talk) 21:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

• Support --Wow (talk) 22:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

  They've done that with

  Template:Liberalism US 73.93.5.246 (talk) 00:05, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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