Template talk:R from predecessor company name

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This page is a direct descendent of Template:R from brand name. The history of that page is recapitulated below to satisfy provenance of authorship.

(cur | prev) 15:42, 10 February 2012 Paine Ellsworth (talk | contribs | block) . . (470 bytes) (+51) . . (add cat) (rollback: 1 edit | undo)
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(cur | prev) 10:23, 19 December 2010 Mclay1 (talk | contribs | block) . . (417 bytes) (-90) . . (no it isn't) (undo)
(cur | prev) 13:19, 24 July 2010 Plastikspork (talk | contribs | block) . . (507 bytes) (+2) . . (per TFD) (undo)
(cur | prev) 07:34, 10 March 2009 R'n'B (talk | contribs | block) m . . (505 bytes) (-22) . . (Redirect templates should not contain article links) (undo)
(cur | prev) 11:00, 20 October 2008 Rich Farmbrough (talk | contribs | block) . . (527 bytes) (+3) . . (Cat redirect template using AWB) (undo)
(cur | prev) 00:05, 8 July 2008 72.72.212.114 (talk | block) . . (524 bytes) (+7) . . (add {{rtw}} in noincludes) (undo)
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(cur | prev) 05:36, 28 June 2008 Richard0612 (talk | contribs | block) . . (444 bytes) (-73) . . (maybe this is what's breaking things...) (undo)
(cur | prev) 23:53, 27 June 2008 Lenoxus (talk | contribs | block) . . (517 bytes) (+65) . . (different test) (undo)
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(cur | prev) 21:26, 27 June 2008 Lenoxus (talk | contribs | block) . . (444 bytes) (-548) . . (simplify explanation, move parts to documentation, add ifeq alternate) (undo)
(cur | prev) 18:08, 24 May 2008 Lenoxus (talk | contribs | block) m . . (992 bytes) (+14) . . ({{{Category|Category:Redirects from brand names}}}) (undo)
(cur | prev) 12:38, 5 May 2008 Lenoxus (talk | contribs | block) . . (978 bytes) (+101) . . (categorizing in accordance with my redirect category scheme) (undo)
(cur | prev) 06:41, 15 August 2007 R'n'B (talk | contribs | block) m . . (877 bytes) (+23) . . (link redirect as a hint to bots that this is a redirect template) (undo)
(cur | prev) 11:08, 8 December 2006 Ceyockey (talk | contribs | block) . . (854 bytes) (-58) . . (removing statment 'primarily for use related to articles on medications' - thereby expanding scope) (undo)
(cur | prev) 10:36, 1 September 2006 Tizio (talk | contribs | block) . . (912 bytes) (+44) . . (adding template name, useful for subst (see WT:R)) (undo)
(cur | prev) 08:39, 1 September 2006 Tizio (talk | contribs | block) . . (868 bytes) (+33) . . (prepare for subst) (undo)
(cur | prev) 08:58, 7 June 2006 RussBlau (talk | contribs | block) m . . (835 bytes) (+6) . . (bypass redirect) (undo)
(cur | prev) 11:05, 3 June 2006 Ceyockey (talk | contribs | block) . . (829 bytes) (+829) . . (created based on perceived need; a subtype of R-from-related-word)

Definition of predecessor

Does this Rcat apply only to companies which have merged or split, or can it be used for companies which have simply renamed themselves without such reorganization? (I have so far used R from former name for the latter.)

That is, are the predecessor and current company names required to represent legally separate companies? I looked at wikt:predecessor, but it doesn't provide clear guidance on this question. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 07:00, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

To editor SoledadKabocha: My interpretation is the same as yours has been. If it's just a rename, then I use R from former name. I reserve this rcat for predecessor names that changed as the result of a merger of some sort.  OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")! Paine  08:27, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Generalize template to predecessor organizations

There are many other types of organizations which merge to produce new organizations. One example I frequently encounter is unions, such as Graphic Communications International Union or potential redirects covering the many merged locals of SEIU 32BJ.

Several relevant results are found in the intersection of Category:Redirects from former names and Category:Redirects with possibilities. Note an external tool is required due to CirrusSearch not indexing redirect pages.

Some of these results don't even quite fit the description of "organization", for example Waveney Valley Railway or Chevy Trucks NASCAR 150. If it seems worthwhile to fully generalize, perhaps "redirects from predecessor name" would fit the bill with an explanation of what separates it from "former name". djr13 (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Admittedly the "with possibilities" of the non-organization articles returned by the intersection are pretty dubious, and most look like simple renames. djr13 (talk) 17:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)