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Volunteering for Work?
editIf I don't get any objections here or on my Talkpage, then I will take over the incredibly dull job of ensuring that there are no filled articles on this page i.e. hunt for new red links across Wikipedia. Gormenghastly 11:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- No objections but I am worried that some of the entries that do appear are on topics that shouldn't have an article. For instance, there is no encyclopedia article to write about petulance, neatness, tidyness, mediocrity or pomposity (I've removed two). These would be dictionary definitions and should be redirected to wikitionary. Moreover we don't want articles being created on Coitus à unda because that would content should just go in Coitus. We don't want an article on Pain during intercourse because it's an awful title and, again, this should be added to existing articles. Many other examples have me scratching my head: Boot licking? Nutshell? Wikipedia:The motivation of Wikipedia contributors ? This is just going to lead to awful new articles. The list needs to be thoroughly reexamined. Pascal.Tesson 23:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Think of the oddball entries as easter eggs. The intent of the list is to stimulate editors' interest through diversity, by intermixing entries from many different fields of study, and combining the serious with the silly and occasionally completely off-the-wall, whilst at the same time fulfilling its serious purpose of methodically helping editors work their way through the most-wanted and missing topics lists, from which it is (mostly) refilled. -- The Anome (talk) 21:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Incidentally, many of the terms of the sort you object to are sourced from external topic-specific glossaries, which clearly do consider these terms to be notable. Many of these can, at the very least, be converted into redirects to articles with non-obvious titles for example, pain during intercourse, one of the titles you objected to, now redirects to dyspareunia. -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- (And, as I realise I failed to mention earlier, there is a notable and documented fetish subculture relating to boot-licking, among both heterosexual and gay kinksters. There are quite a lot of obscure-but-notable sexual topics remaining to be dealt with...) -- The Anome (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I tried putting a ((wi)) entry on mediocrity, only to get in a lame rev war. That didn't go very far. Mindraker (talk) 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Your explanation for terms which are unlikely in a month of sundays to become articles doesn't work for me, The Anome. FWIW I think more care should be taken to edit out the troll-esque suggestions. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Then simply don't create those articles, or edit the template yourself to remove them. However, I believe that the serious vs. silly ratio is more than 95% in favour of serious (and sometimes obscure) articles, and even the silly topics are chosen to be potentially encyclopedic, if offbeat. And at the same time as it generates some modest entertainment, this list is slowly crunching its way through various article creation backlog lists... -- The Anome (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Spelling errors
edit{{editprotected}} Please replace the word "Contonnière" with "Cotonnière" (line 28: "Association Cotonnière du Soudan"), and the words "Français" with "Française" (lines 9, 34 and 65: "Compagnie Française..."), and add a hyphen in "Haut Congo" (line 34: "Haut-Congo"). Thank you! Korg (talk) 01:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Done. --- RockMFR 18:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could you please also replace "Français" with "Française" in the lines 9 and 65? Thanks again, Korg (talk) 16:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oops, missed those. Done. --- RockMFR 15:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Korg (talk) 22:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oops, missed those. Done. --- RockMFR 15:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could you please also replace "Français" with "Française" in the lines 9 and 65? Thanks again, Korg (talk) 16:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Questionable Requests
editDoes underwear as outerwear in line 85 merit a request? I don't think it's valid other than part of a fashion/style entry. Jadeddissonance (talk) 20:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- That's exactly the context that I had in mind, but I think it's significant enough to deserve a standalone article: it was (briefly) a major fashion trend, that has lingering influence to this day (visible bra straps, low-waist trousers, visible thongs, etc.) Fashion in general needs major attention: see List of fashion topics, which shows less than 50% coverage, for an overview. -- The Anome (talk) 08:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Now added
editAll links currently in Wikipedia:Articles requested for more than a year have now been merged into the template list. -- The Anome (talk) 21:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Recently added: interesting nouns beginning with X, Y, and Z, some most-wanted species, and some fashion terms... -- The Anome (talk) 19:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
And a couple of medical terms. -- The Anome (talk) 22:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Blue links
editBlue links mean that the articles exist, correct? Because there are quite a few Blue links. --Mbabbitt2003 (talk) 15:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Changed out all the blue links from Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Skysmith's list of missing articles. Jeepday (talk) 04:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
{{editprotected}}
I created the article, and noticed that it was still on the list, and appeared at SP:RC. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Done, replaced with uncreated article Matty Malneck --CapitalR (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
change number generator function
edit{{editprotected}}
The current system used to generate numbers right now is very ineffective at providing a semblance of randomness; it is twice as heavy on even numbers as odds. I would recommend replacing {{{1|{{#expr:({{CURRENTMINUTE}} + ({{CURRENTHOUR}}*60)) mod 124}}}}}
with {{Rand|124}}
.ŹźŖ<math>x</math>í (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Done --CapitalR (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Change the template into semi-protected status
editCan the template be altered to semi-protected, just like Chinese edition? So that general registered users can remove blue links, add requests from WP:RA, WP:RL , WP:MEA, etc. and lines. --RekishiEJ (talk) 22:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Change Wikipedia:Recent change article requests into semi-protected status
editThe current protected status does stop many users from adding lines or interwiki links .In my opinion, it should have more lines since English Wikipedia is the most-widely used Wikipedia and there are plenty of red links in WP:RA, WP:RL and WP:MEA, etc. And I do want to add zh:Wikipedia:最近更改條目請求 to the project page, but because of the current protected status, I can't do it. Until now administrators and bureaucrats has not done this interwiki job (positively, they do not know there is another language edition; negatively, they're lazy). --RekishiEJ (talk) 22:34, 24 July 2008 (UTC) 22:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC) fixed
Use {{editprotected}}, like so: {{editprotected}} --NE2 20:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Please add zh:Template:Recent changes article requests
editThere's a Chinese edition, so please add this interwiki link. --RekishiEJ (talk) 14:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
removal of non-notables
editThere were about 100 items in the Requests list that were non-notable, and would probably be deleted as such if ever created. I went through and removed these items, and then consolidated the lines. If I removed one that you think should be in there, just re-add it. I won't challenge such a move at all. For my criteria I used google results and page-links-to results.
To save you time, I am listing here the ones I removed:
- Andreas Akou - Samuel Davis Wilson - Aaron Carrington - Kyai Blorong - Exteroceptive - Fallacy of personal preference assumptions - Smugness - Bariai languages - South Africa national under-21 rugby union team - Pontifical Roman Athenaeum S. Apollinare - Red bark - Magic Edge - Gaud and Toque Scandal - Cobir Bawa - Association Cotonnière du Soudan - Wen Jang - Callousness - Load-lock/store-conditional - Stavropolsky District - Shi Tianzhe - Madingou, Niari - Hypermasculinity theory of male homosexuality - State-space approach to linearization - Sally Fuller - Abha Ahuja - Agua Caliente Open - Gaha of Oyo - Rats on a Budget - Kei (artist) - Billatron - Museum of Lower Carniola - Etablissements du Golfe du Bénin - Quantal speech sound - The Harmony Documents - Ruttya bernieri - Compagnie Française du Congo - Company of Senegal and the West African Coast - 2007 Hang Seng Index downturn - Old Adam - Scooter's Union - Abdallah of Mourgoula - Junior Special Comics - Almost Cool - Ambas Bay Trading Company - Pongsit Kamphee - Silio Ciani - Entomophilia - Ognjen Tadić - Morra Mora - Charles Macarthy - Computer Group - Compagnie Française d'Afrique Occidentale - Compagnie Propriétaire du Kouilou-Niari - Unicycle dynamics - Coprimation - The Myrchents - Water Works Corner - Tomlinson-Harashima code - Mark Allan Miller - Bulldoze (band) - Abbott Farhi - Mermaid Society - Ehtiaat-Mustahabbi - Richard Amp - Science fiction moralizing - Cauchy-Weierstrass definition - Compagnie des Chemins de Fer du Congo Supérieur - Black hole stability theorem - Company of the Sultanates of Upper Oubangui - Altangerel Perle - Mass Fatality Co-ordination Group - Bounding hyperplane method - Ehtiaat - Hypermetrical phrasing - Seine class frigate - Infinita Conscia Orchestra
Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 21:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Suggested addition
editThe following items, at least I think, should be added to the template because of one of the following reasons:
- They are notable to a certain extent.
- They are linked from a certain navigational template or disambiguation page, or mentioned on the article requests on the "Things you can do" section of various portals.
- Science of science - Ethnoscience - History of earth science - History of environmental science - History of the microscope - Normal Louis Allinger - Stanley H. Autler - John William Baker - Samuel Jackson Barnett - Manson Benedicks - Frank Leverett - Willy Rozenbaum - Ellie Wollman - Emory Ellis - PaJamMo experiment - Technological sublime - Book of Nature - Blind posits theory - Cognition theory - Epistemic support - Paul Durbin - Larry Hickman - Philosophy of astronomy - Mv (digraph) - Aye (trigraph) - Ngw (trigraph) - Nkp (trigraph) - Federal Ministry of Transport, Innovation and Technology - iolo technologies - Barracuda Software - RLDRAM - Comparison of Visual Basic and Visual Basic .NET - JPEG optimizer - Ashampoo Photo Organizer - Soovle.com - ChillX.com
This seems to duplicate with Ireland 1801–1922, I think this request should be removed from the template (or not? I'm not familiar with history of Ireland, and it appears to me that Britain had conqured Ireland before 1801). --RekishiEJ (talk) 18:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Addition
editPlease add this article → Dacian Kingdom. Thanks. --FeodorBezuhov (talk) 21:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
the blues
edit{{editprotected}}
Do we assume that the 28 blue links on this template represent requests that have been filled (in which case please remove them), or do we do like Uncyc does and wait until they're at least Start-class? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 13:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yes I think blue links can be removed, but they need to be replaced with something. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:27, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- As long as they are not nominated for deletion or transwikification, they should be replaced with red links on subpages of WP:RA or WP:MEA.--RekishiEJ (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- What do the "no entry found" lines at the end of the template represent? Should those be filled from WP:RA too? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 18:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- As long as they are not nominated for deletion or transwikification, they should be replaced with red links on subpages of WP:RA or WP:MEA.--RekishiEJ (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Proposal
editThis page will sit comfortably on the documentation page of Template:Recent changes article requests (see the template there for what I mean because I have already added it). Therefore we don't need two separate pages for this. We could also merge the two respective talk pages and redirect one to the other. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- This has now been done. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
To do
editOptimal line-length-balancing algorithm; use 1-0 linear programming on an incidence matrix? -- The Anome (talk) 02:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- Huh? What's that? :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Protection of Template:Recent changes article requests/doc
editI've just reduced the protection of this doc page. Full protection was surely excessive as there is no risk here. The whole point of putting documentation ona separate page is that it allows non-admins to edit it and also to maintain the categories and interwikis. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Enhanced version
editOn the /sandbox I have a proposed new version of this template. There are a few advantages:
- It will not display articles which already exist.
- The requested articles is listed separately (at /list) and without formatting markup, so should be simpler to add/remove.
- A message box can be added to the documentation which will list all of the articles which exist (and so need removing).
What do you think? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:43, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- I have now added length detection, so that if the length goes over 100 characters it will not add any more articles to the list. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- implemented. Please let me know of any problems. A few initial comments:
- I was hoping to generate a list of the existing articles for maintenance purposes, so that they can be removed from the template. Unfortunately this was not possible as it went above the limit of 500 "expensive" parser functions.
- The template is slow loading up due to the full list being transcluded on the /doc page. (This doesn't affect the performance of just calling the template - only when you view the template itself.) So perhaps this list should be removed from there, or see next point.
- We currently have about 700 requests on the list. Is this number really required? We could maybe help to solve the above two problems by reducing this to 300-400.
- I notice that sometimes 6 articles is not enough to fill the line (if they are all short titles). Maybe a total of 7 articles at a time should be supported? The maxiumum length of a line would remain at 100 characters.
- — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- implemented. Please let me know of any problems. A few initial comments:
Reverted your change to Template:Recent changes article requests
editCopied from User talk:MSGJ
I've reverted your changes to this template as it appears to have broken the output on Special:RecentChanges. [1] Nakon 20:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's worrying. Could you give me a bit more detail? What was the output exactly? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- It changed the output to something like [[]] - [[]] - [[]] - [[]] Nakon 23:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, that's not very good. It probably means the starting position was higher than the number of articles in the list and so it couldn't find any articles. I removed a few articles yesterday (because they already existed) and then reduced the total accordingly. So I think you may have been looking at an old version and have now reverted to this "broken" version. I've just put the new code in the /sandbox and purged it about 50 times and each time it worked perfectly. So I will probably unrevert and keep an eye on it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- It changed the output to something like [[]] - [[]] - [[]] - [[]] Nakon 23:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I was wrong. Although it works perfectly on this template, when transcluded on Special:RecentChanges it seems to break. I can't work out why yet. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe #expr doesn't work on pages in the MediaWiki namespace? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Please substitute red links for blue links in the template
editCivic Union, Minami-Setaka Station and Castle Ditches are already created, so please replace them with Science of science, Aerodan and Aerodinámica de Monterrey.--RekishiEJ (talk) 21:55, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- And plus three requests: engineering studies, Cheryl K. Olson and Eugene V. Beresin.--RekishiEJ (talk) 21:55, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Done -- Ϫ 01:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Now again there're some blue links on the template (not redirects): Post-Kantian philosophy, Hirter, Constitutive ablation, Mean-shift algorithm, King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell, Maladi Olaad, 500-channel universe, Xenodiagnosis. Please replace them with Agriculture in Ukraine, Agriculture in Hungary, Agriculture in Switzerland, Agriculture in Finland, Agriculture in Norway, Agriculture in Denmark, Agriculture in the Netherlands, Agriculture in Italy.--RekishiEJ (talk) 10:16, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- And OlEnglish, please restore the blue links you removed which you do not make any substitutions and replace them with red links on disambiguation pages, lists, navigational templates and subpages of WP:RA and WP:MEA, as there are still many notable topics which do not have independent articles here, such as experimental sociology and experimental animation.--RekishiEJ (talk) 10:30, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Protection change request
editIs there any possibility that the protection levels of the sub-pages of this template could be changed. As I understand, the template is fully protected and this cascades to child pages. However this means that people like RekishiE, who has been here since 2006 with about 4k edits, or me who has been here since 2004 with 40k edits, cannot maintain the redlink list. Perhaps we could stop using cascade, and protect /list and /full individually as "Pending-changes level 2 with Semi-protection"? thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Mordechai Kremnitzer
editCan someone add Mordechai Kremnitzer - a well known Israeli scholar. google scholar search. 94.188.132.2 (talk) 07:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 24.233.99.119, 14 August 2011
editKatowice Conference
editCan someone add the Katowice Conference - an important part of the history of Zionism, the founding conference of the Hovevei Zion movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.124.33.69 (talk) 23:36, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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I found this article on the list whilst refreshing recent changes, and, as you can see, it already exists, so can an admin please remove it? |Randomno| WP 12:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- In fact, there are a lot that exist. Anyone willing to remove them? |Randomno| WP 19:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Can someone add this? Tomer T (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Seeing some blanks
editA recent edit has chopped the list down to 467 article names, but the {{Rand}} limit is still 550. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Organizing requests in this template
edit1741 in architecture and Creative Circle Awards should be replaced by tax justice and Citadel Prins Frederik. Also Choaspes subcaudatus, Tot Vordeel, Alphen aan de Maas, and Sambucus sieboldiana should be added to the template to make the number of requests in it 550 Opps! Adding these three requests only make the number of requests in it 470!.--RekishiEJ (talk) 12:17, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Also Al-Muhallabi should be replaced with Tosena paviei, and Hemisodorcus arrowi, Great northern tilefish, Blue blanquillo, Desmodema polystictum, Blepsias bilobus, Blepsias cirrhosus, Hemitripterus americanus, Rhynchocinetes uritai, Enoplometopus antillensis, Euastacus spinifer, Aniculus maximus, Diemeniana frenchi, Dorisiana bicolor, Tosena splendida, Boophis andrangoloaka, Boophis arcanus, Boophis calcaratus, Boophis entingae, Boophis haingana, Boophis luciae, Boophis miadana, Boophis obscurus, Boophis piperatus, Boophis praedictus, Boophis roseipalmatus, Boophis sandrae, Boophis spinophis, Spinomantis aglavei, Spinomantis bertini, Spinomantis brunae, Spinomantis elegans, Spinomantis fimbriatus, Spinomantis guibei, Spinomantis massorum, Spinomantis microtis, Spinomantis nussbaumi, Spinomantis peraccae, Spinomantis tavaratra, Wakea madinika, Plethodontohyla fonetana, Plethodontohyla guentheri, Rhombophryne minuta, Rhombophryne mutavy, Hellevoetsluis Lighthouse, Westhoofd Lighthouse, Noordwijk Lighthouse, Hoge vuurtoren Europoort, Lage vuurtoren Europoort, Hoge vuurtoren Maasmond, Lage vuurtoren Maasmond, Lighthouse at the Maasvlakte, Hoge vuurtoren Nieuwe Waterweg, Lage vuurtoren Nieuwe Waterweg, Vuurtoren van Harlingen (1921), Lemmer Lighthouse, Zuidertoren (Schiermonnikoog), Workum Lighthouse, Stenen Baak, Toren van Goedereede, Vuurtorens van Hoek van Holland, Katwijk Lighthouse, Vuurtoren van Harlingen (1904), Vuurtoren van Terschelling (1323), Vuurtoren van Vlieland (1836), Delfzijl Lighthouse, Tweede vuurtoren van Delfzijl, Watum Lighthouse, Fort Kijkduin, Zuidertoren (Enkhuizen), Hoek van 't IJ, Vuurtoren van Marken (1700), Zandvoort Lighthouse, Hoge vuurtoren van Renesse, Lage vuurtoren van Renesse, Oostvoorne Lighthouse, Vuurtoren Westhoofd (1911), Vuurtoren Flaauwe Werk, Vuurtoren van Noordwijk (1854), Vuurtoren van Scheveningen (16e eeuw) and economic censorship should be added to the template to make the number of requests in it 550.--RekishiEJ (talk) 09:34, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Please include the template onto the Recent changes page again
editIn the past people can see the template on the Recent changes page, but now that template is no longer included there. Hope that admins can include it there again, so that Wikipedians can easily notice highly important requested articles.--RekishiEJ (talk) 03:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with recent changes, so why would you include it there? There are many otherwise important things that aren't shown there, including RfCs, RfAs, .... recent changes shouldn't be misused to promote a barely used section with no connection to recent changes. It would be more logical (but still probably overkill) to have this included on the left side under "interaction", between "Recent changes" and "Contact Wikipedia". I still wouldn't support it, but at least it would be a logical, normal place to put this. Fram (talk) 06:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- OK, but I think we'd better put that template onto the community portal to notify other Wikipedians crucial requested articles.--RekishiEJ (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)