Template talk:Rubik's Cube
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Notable?
editI'm sorry, but we have to have a definition of notable. Macky, Tyson, Jessica and Lars have all contributed largely to the success of the Rubik's cube by either bringing the cube to the media, setting records or inventing new methods. Katsu, Bob Burton and Edouard Chambon are no more than maybe (former) record holders and have not done nearly the same thing. I propose the following:
- Ron van Bruchem (speedcubing.com, WCA)
- Chris Hardwick (Yahoo group)
- Macky (Propaganda in 2003)
- Tyson (Propaganda in 2005 and on, WCA)
- Lars P (early method, well known)
- Jessica Fridrich (early method, well known)
Chris Hunt (strangepuzzle video collection), Jaap Scherphuis (puzzle and solver collection) and Dan Harris (compendium site) could get mentioned, but their effort is not as important to the success of the cube itself, as it is to the success of the community. So my definition is: has this person largely contributed to the success of the cube? Please don't argue that you are 'the fastest' this or that. Someone will come along and be faster than you. Speed is only a temporary succes. However, and interesting list here (or somewhere on the Rubik/speedcubing page) would be the succession of world champions. Blonkm 16:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- A list of world champions is not really needed. It would be sufficient to provide a link to the World Record history in the WCA database (worldcubeassociation.org) Cubewhiz 09:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say keep Jessica Fridrich and Lars Petrus for their contributions to solution methods, possibly removing the "Players" section, and let the rest go from the template. Keeping the others in the article somewhere is probably appropriate. — MrDolomite • Talk 12:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- I added Leyan Lo, the current world record holder, though the grouping can probably be changed once the players section is decided. — MrDolomite • Talk 14:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Leyan Lo isn't the current world record holder, its Edouard Chambon. joey__ 17:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- As of 2008, world record holder for single time is Erik Akkersdijk with 7.08 seconds, and for average time it is Yu Nakajima with 11.28 seconds. ECS.147.143.240.18 (talk) 10:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Leyan Lo isn't the current world record holder, its Edouard Chambon. joey__ 17:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- I added Leyan Lo, the current world record holder, though the grouping can probably be changed once the players section is decided. — MrDolomite • Talk 14:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Overview Page
editI am intending to write an overview page for Rubik type puzzles. This will provide an index of existing pages, a description of the categorisation and geometries of the puzzles and some notes where the puzzle solution is interestingly different from the standard cube. Also a few examples of puzzles which do not seem to have a page or a mention and some links to external sites (museums etc which have collections)
Havn't decided how to describe this page yet, but any objections to having a link to it in this template? Spinningspark (talk) 16:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Sudokube
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I think some of the other "cubic variations on the Rubik's cube" article need some serious attention if they are not to be contenders for AfD since there aren't many obviously reliable sources, if any. GDallimore (Talk) 16:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Frank Morris
editDoes anyone know what Frank Morris' full name is? Somebody added him to the list of renowned solvers, but unfortunately the current Frank Morris article describes a completely different person, a criminal. To disambiguate, we'll need Frank Morris (the cube solver)'s full name.—Tetracube (talk) 23:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- If the WCA can be trusted to give full names, then it is just Frank Morris. But what is the criterion for being a renowned solver? There are lots of solvers. SpinningSpark 22:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's also how he names himself SpinningSpark 22:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- So what's the convention in such cases? Create Frank Morris (Rubik's cube solver)? Or rename the current Frank Morris to Frank Lee Morris? (I see there's a redirect from the latter to the former.)—Tetracube (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia convention is to use the most common name as the article title, so unless Frank Lee Morris is commonly called by his full name, leave it as a redirect. Frank Morris (Rubik's cube solver) should only be created if you actually have enough material to establish notability, which I think will require something like newspaper articles or mention in books. How it's disambiguated depends on who is considered the most well known. Assuming that Frank Morris (criminal) is the most well known, he stays as Frank Morris and a disambiguation line goes at the top of his page to Frank Morris (Rubik's cube solver). If they were equal, or there was more than two of them, then a disambiguation page would be created, but I don't think that's necessary in this case. SpinningSpark 01:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- So what's the convention in such cases? Create Frank Morris (Rubik's cube solver)? Or rename the current Frank Morris to Frank Lee Morris? (I see there's a redirect from the latter to the former.)—Tetracube (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's also how he names himself SpinningSpark 22:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Dan Cohen
editI've added Dan Cohen to the list of record holders, since he currently holds the record for the V-Cube 6 and has held other records previously. He doesn't have an article yet, and Dan Cohen (without any additional text) redirects to a court case. Currently there's a redlink for Dan Cohen (cube solver), following the naming pattern for Frank Morris (cube solver). Hellbus (talk) 04:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
World Record Holders
editI believe that the current 'World record holders' section of the template is flawed. Few of the record holders currently have a wikipedia article, and without the records being listed not much is added to the template. As well as this, half the record holders are missing and as the World Records are constantly changing, so must the template. There is also confusion caused by failing to point out if the record holder has the record for average or single. I propose that the Record holders section be merged with the Renowned solvers section. Those with an article be added, and the (majority) that don't have one be removed from the template. The only persons this applies to are Feliks Zemdegs, Mats Valk and Simon Westlund. Perhaps a link in the template be provided to the current world records table on the speedcubing page. EeeeeWarne (talk) 10:27, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
v-cube 8
editV-cube 8 has already been released. Why is it not added onto the template yet? according to the history, 2 attempts to add the v-cube 8 had been reverted. any reasons not to add it? -115.66.225.183 (talk) 10:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- 8x8-13x13 aren't different enough to each have different articles. Also, before the V-Cube 8 there's been 9x9 (Shengshou), 10x10 (Shengshou) and 11x11 (Yuxin). |Randomno| WP 19:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Cubing personnel?
editI got rid of the world record solvers grouping (there are at least dozens of similar puzzles and each has an associated world record bracket, and that would clutter up the template, not to mention that the vast majority would not have articles of their own). I also want to get rid of the notable solvers grouping since that reeks of POV, but it's less clear-cut to me that doing so would be helpful. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 01:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Pyraminx Duo
editI've added the Pyraminx Duo to the template. I have no idea why the link is shown in red because there is an article about it (and in fact if you click the red link, it will redirect you to the article). But since it works as a link, please don't revert the change just because it's red. Mvpo666 (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Impossiball
editIn the template, the Impossiball is categorised as an icosahedral puzzle. Could someone please tell me why this is the case? I would argue that the puzzle is actually in the shape of a (rounded) dodecahedron; it has 12 colour circles which are arranged in the same pattern as pentagons around a dodecahedron. Moreover, as the article itself states, the puzzle "is equivalent to solving just the corners of a Megaminx", which is of course a dodecahedral puzzle (in fact, I will go further and say that the Impossiball is basically exactly the same as the Kilominx, which is also a dodecahedron). Saying that the Impossiball is an icosahedral puzzle just because it's made of 20 triangles is a bit like saying that this 2x2x2 Rubik's Cube ball is an octahedral puzzle because it's made of 8 triangles. Skewb? (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- It's somewhere between a dodecahedron and an icosahedron. The colors are dodecahedral, but it has 20 spherically triangular pieces like a rounded icosahedron. You are correct that it's functionally identical to the Kilominx. The Dogic is undeniably icosahedral but in its 12-color version it's basically an Impossiball with extra pieces. Both puzzles involve rotating sets of five triangles around an axis. Hellbus (talk) 00:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
New organisation proposal
editThe idea would consist in renaming the template Template:Speedcubing, changing the word up of the template, giving the World Cube Association a slightly higher place and make a better distinction between WCA and non-WCA. It would finally also add a place for the World Championships articles (there's already 1982 and the 2017 is being created right now). What do you think about this re-actualisation of the template? Julio974 (Talk-Contribs) 19:38, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Octahedron
editMention of the non-skew octahedron puzzle is conspicuously absent. Does anyone know who invented it? 124.169.252.226 (talk) 01:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)