Template talk:The Dresden Files bibliography

Future books

I added the Peace Talks and Mirror Mirror titles. He announced them at a GenCon 2014 panel I attended. --16:12, 18 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.32.14.122 (talk)

Non verifiable source. Ngebendi (talk) 17:10, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what more you want. There were a few hundred of us in the room. --19:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.32.14.122 (talk)

Peace Talks and Brief Cases corroborated here: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/05/jim-butcher-reddit-ask-me-anything-highlights

Peace Talks and Mirror Mirror Mirror corroborated here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheDresdenFiles?from=Main.TheDresdenFiles

Talk he gave in Seattle has same info: http://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/26ysq7/a_few_notes_from_seattle/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.32.14.122 (talk) 19:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

"Unverifiable source" may have been the wrong justification. The problem, however, is that it's an announcement at a convention. Wikipedia routinely downchecks Amazon listings as information source because it so often happens that publishers nor Amazon itself do not feel bound by them, among other reasons I have not yet completely understood. People hearing an announcement at a convention is even weaker than an Amazon listing. An Amazon listing less than a month away from publication date might perhaps be enough - odds are that most of the run has been printed, but this is just a personal feeling, not an objective truth. Sorry, Ngebendi (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Since Peace Talks came out (which was actually split into two, the other half released as Battle Ground), he has recently stated in an interview that the next book will be Twelve Months, and then Mirror Mirror. (He altered the outline.) Reference: https://www.jim-butcher.com/faq/upcoming-works --100.6.59.176 (talk) 04:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding "Peace Talks" to the list

My apologies for the less-than-totally-backed-up addition to the dresden files bibliography an hour or so ago. I see that Ngebendi (talk) has been rolling back the addition of this book since the first announcement by Jim in May 2014. This is dedicated and often correct (and unthanked) work on the part of a wikipedia editor.

The rollback was also accompanied by a snide and woe-is-me long-suffering crusader-for-what-is-True-And-Right comment from someone who is a peer. This was not wholly appropriate, because such comments lead to annoyance and from there to revert wars, which are a waste of time for all editors. <--===The data as it stands===--> From the author:

• 16 May 2014, written Title given in writing to an interview on reddit
• 23 May 2014, written Confirmation on official series website
• Early June 2014, interview Title confirmed and plot details given

From a publisher:

• UK Publisher Little, Brown gives full specifics on "Book 16": date, pages, pricing, etc.
  • ISBN: 0356500918, 9780356500911
  • Page count: 416
  • Publication date: 07 Jan 2015
  • Price 18.75 pounds sterling

Other websites listing the same data:

• Google

In the absence of any contravening information in 6 months, I politely suggest that it is no longer inappropriate to add the title Riventree (talk) 01:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

First of all, I'd like to apologize to Riventree - I was _not_ sniding to her/him, just trying to vent some frustration and failed to be impesonal enough.

I'll have to reserve judgement on the youtube interview, since I haven't seen it, but the reddit and the Butcher announcements are both early events and definitely not notable enough to support a listing here. The publisher announcement is a step forward, but it is unfortunately _not_ an indipendent source, which will lend to the issue so much more support. The goodread link might have been another step in the right direction but unfortunately does not provide any title.

The prepublication listing on Amazon.co.uk does not provide any title either, nor does it provide any publication date. Since early "positive" information appearing on Amazon is not accepted as indipendent support, "negative" information such as this might be used to promote some caution - I'd recommend that we wait until such a time that the actual publication date is no more than two or three weeks away to publish this information. Ngebendi (talk) 05:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Since the subheadings Riventree put in were a bit unwieldy and confusing, I tagged them as invisible. I am sorry for that. Ngebendi (talk) 05:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Release date/ISBN discrepency

The Peace Talks and Battle Ground paperback dates are incorrect. They should actually, per the primary publisher Penguin, be Apr 27, 2021 and Oct 26, 2021 respectively. I did not make the changes though because I'm not sure how to cite the source. Also, the Penguin publisher site only has ISBN 13s, and the rest of this table uses ISBN10s, so I didn't want to change that. Supposedly existing "paperbacks" of Battle Ground (such as seen on used market on Amazon) are pre-reader copies or some other not-actual-release. --100.6.59.176 (talk) 04:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)