Template talk:Villanova University

Inclusion of Philadelphia Big 5 and Robert V. Geasey Trophy

I had included both the Philadelphia Big 5 and Robert V. Geasey Trophy pages into this template, only to have both changes reverted ([1] [2]) because both pages are apparently "not 'Nova-specific". I entirely disagree. Could the Big 5 be called the Big 5 if "'Nova" weren't in it? No. It'd be the Big 4. Does the Robert V. Geasey Trophy get awarded to Villanova basketball players if they are deemed the best in the Big 5? Yes. How are either of these pages not "'Nova-specific"? Jrcla2 ^talk 19:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

For the simple fact that they don't involve only VU. However, if you'd like to create a template for the Big 5 (something that should probably be done, actually...), those links can certainly go there. — MusicMaker5376 01:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't have to only involve the college or university that the template is for. As long as the page is directly related to that institution and has enough reliable, third-party sources to confirm its relationship to that institution then it's acceptable to be put into the navbox.

So then, using your logic, I'm going to go ahead and remove The Pavilion because other non-VU events and organizers use it. I'll remove Villanova, PA since it's a town and not only involving the university itself. The Holy War should go too, because that involves St. Joe's (and God forbid we put something on here that involves other schools...oh wait). Lastly, I'm going to remove Villanova Stadium for the reason listed with the The Pavilion. Jrcla2 ^talk 03:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest creating a separate template for the Philadelphia Big 5, which would include the parent article, an article for the trophy and links to the five basketball programs. The template could then be placed on all seven (or more) articles, increasing the template count by one on each article, but reducing any overlap and allowing the one template to be updated if there are any changes, such as the addition of Drexel to the tournament. Alansohn (talk) 03:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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Resolution: A Philadelphia Big 5 template already existed, but I've done work on it to include not only the member schools, but the basketball teams, arenas, any specific rivalries, and any specific awards. I might try to incorporate the City 6 into it somehow. However, I need both of your help — since the Big 5 template is now an all-encompassing Big 5-related navbox, will you two support me if I put Template:Big 5 Basketball Venues up for deletion? It seems completely unnecessary now. Jrcla2 ^talk 04:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes. It probably won't require too much support, as it's been deprecated by a more complete template. Just let me know when it's nominated. — MusicMaker5376 14:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The Big 5 Basketball Venues template is now up for deletion. Jrcla2 ^talk 20:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)