Template talk:WikiProject Antigua and Barbuda
Latest comment: 1 year ago by MSGJ in topic Task forces not being added
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Task forces not being added
editI have been working on this, and while the first five task forces I have added to the template have been working fine, the last two are not showing up in the required categories needed section, and when I add those two task forces to a page, those two task forces do show up in the parameters, but to not add a category to the page, and do not show the task force label on the template. I was redirected here by the Help desk. CROIX (talk) 20:23, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @CROIX: I would not expect there to be sufficient articles or participants to justify creating separate task forces for parishes. I advise reverting this template to be a wrapper for {{WP Caribbean}}; that seems to be good enough for all the other islands.
- As it is, this template is also populating intersection categories by quality and importance, e.g. Category:Stub-Class Antigua and Barbuda articles of High-importance, which have not been created and are really not required. – Fayenatic London 09:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- This was discussed at WikiProject Templates. it's all fading awaytalk 19:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ah yes, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates#Template:WikiProject Antigua and Barbuda template task forces not being added, where the same point was made to you about task forces for Antigua & Barbuda. Well, perhaps the discussion there will lead to future changes to the meta template.
- As for this template, I was minded to revert it to the old version, to stop populating unnecessary categories, but I see that user:Bearcat and user:Harryboyles are now assisting with it. – Fayenatic London 15:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- To be fair, I should mention that I'm at a loss for how to resolve the "X-class Antigua and Barbuda articles of Y-importance" categories — they're not creatable for the same reason as all of the others, but because the template is using category-intersection code I can't figure out how to make them go away without breaking other things either. I've fixed some other stuff related to this, but that set of categories is beyond my ken. Reverting back to the old form may well be what's actually warranted here, because Antigua and Barbuda certainly isn't a large enough country to need a comprehensive set of by-parish task forces for just one, two or three articles each — separate task forces for each jurisdictional division isn't a thing that every country automatically needs to have as a matter of course, but are required only if there are thousands and thousands of articles to deal with that need to be chunked out for project management and size control purposes. For a small country with only a few dozen articles total, it's just bureaucratic overkill to have anything more than just the nationwide WikiProject. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've fixed those specific redlinked categories, although I agree that the task force structure is a mess. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- How so? it's all fading awaytalk 02:21, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Read my comment above again, because I've already explained what's wrong with it: a separate task force for each individual jurisdiction is not a thing every country automatically gets as a matter of course, it's a thing that a country only gets if it has thousands of articles to deal with, and not if it only has a few dozen. Bearcat (talk) 03:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- What is your definition of a “few dozen”, the project seems to have much more than a “few dozen” articles under its scope. it's all fading awaytalk 13:41, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Read my comment above again, because I've already explained what's wrong with it: a separate task force for each individual jurisdiction is not a thing every country automatically gets as a matter of course, it's a thing that a country only gets if it has thousands of articles to deal with, and not if it only has a few dozen. Bearcat (talk) 03:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- How so? it's all fading awaytalk 02:21, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've fixed those specific redlinked categories, although I agree that the task force structure is a mess. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:02, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- To be fair, I should mention that I'm at a loss for how to resolve the "X-class Antigua and Barbuda articles of Y-importance" categories — they're not creatable for the same reason as all of the others, but because the template is using category-intersection code I can't figure out how to make them go away without breaking other things either. I've fixed some other stuff related to this, but that set of categories is beyond my ken. Reverting back to the old form may well be what's actually warranted here, because Antigua and Barbuda certainly isn't a large enough country to need a comprehensive set of by-parish task forces for just one, two or three articles each — separate task forces for each jurisdictional division isn't a thing that every country automatically needs to have as a matter of course, but are required only if there are thousands and thousands of articles to deal with that need to be chunked out for project management and size control purposes. For a small country with only a few dozen articles total, it's just bureaucratic overkill to have anything more than just the nationwide WikiProject. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- This was discussed at WikiProject Templates. it's all fading awaytalk 19:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
I have trimmed the template code down to remove all the unnecessary categorisation. I agree that none of the task forces are warranted as they are all without members/activity. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:27, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I have now removed the task forces from the template. Please feel free to reactivate any of these if they attract a significant number of members — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:45, 7 August 2023 (UTC)