Template talk:WikiProject Birmingham
Requested move 29 November 2018
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The result of the move request was: not moved at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 06:17, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Birmingham → ? – Current title is ambiguous. Editors unfamiliar with this template or WikiProject will transclude it (if they aren't already) to pages far outside the project's scope. American editors unfamiliar with British society are particularly vulnerable to this. Worse, the template provides no textual disambiguation, forcing editors to rely on the image; it isn't that hard to not notice the map and mistakenly misuse it. It should be renamed to something like Template:WikiProject Birmingham UK or Template:WikiProject Birmingham, England. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 18:56, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Strong oppose If Template:WikiProject Washington doesn't require disambiguation when there is Template:WikiProject Washington, D.C. then Birmingham certainly doesn't require disambiguation. Furthermore even though the capital project is at Wikipedia:WikiProject District of Columbia, there isn't even a Wikipedia:WikiProject Birmingham, Alabama. Wikipedia:WikiProject Victoria (Category:WikiProject Victoria) also isn't disambiguated and Victoria is a lot more ambiguous. Birmingham is the largest city in the West Midlands and the 2nd largest city in England (and Great Britain and the UK and the British Isles). While the city in Alabama is important in the US and is the largest in Alabama, it is only the 49th largest in the US. Plus the usual practice of the US adding the state to settlements even if not needed and the fact that the English Birmingham is the original. "Template:WikiProject Birmingham UK" would definitely be incorrect as that would imply that "UK" is part of the name, which it isn't. Template:WikiProject Birmingham, England would arguably be the best choice but per WP:UKPLACE we use the county, like Category:Birmingham, West Midlands. While the US capital is frequently called "Washington DC" the state is also sometimes called "Washington State" and the idea that the state should take precedence is like having London disambiguated if it had the same name as Devon or Edinburgh disambiguated if it had the same name as Fife. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Crouch, Swale. No need to disambiguate from a Wikiproject that doesn't exist. Iffy★Chat -- 12:58, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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