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examples

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  1. ro:Constantin Brâncusi
  2. ro:Constantin Brancuşi
  3. ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
  4. ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
  5. w:ro:Constantin Brâncusi
  6. w:ro:Constantin Brancuşi
  7. w:ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
  8. w:ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
  1. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Orase în Slovacia
  2. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe in Slovacia
  3. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
  4. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
  5. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Orase în Slovacia
  6. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe in Slovacia
  7. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
  8. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia

11:56, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)

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  • #1 - #8 works properly at [[:de:], en:, sv: ... everywhere !

explanations

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  • Here are differnt links. Please look at what the link looks like and what title it targets.
  • If you look at this page and compare #3 and #4 you will not see any difference. The difference will show up only if you edit the page.
    • The diffrenece is that #3 uses â or î ehile #4 uses for these characters the &#nnnn; encoding too.
  • The examples are using three types of characters:
  1. 7 bit
  2. 8 bit
  3. UTF-8 characters
  • It is very strange that you can use either 8-bit characters in interlanguage (also InterWiki w:... at en: only) links or UTF-8 characters in the link, see links #1 and #2 (and #5 and #6)
  • If you click on link #3 the target will be somthing else.
  • Only link #4 works.
  • This behaviour is not transparent to the users using a copy and paste method to insert interlanguage links. It is discriminatory to a lot of languages using combined types and should be considered as a critical error. Users will not be aware that common method #3 will fail, that the very technical method #4 is required or that their interlanguage links will be remouved sooner or later. Gangleri | Th | T 17:06, 2005 Feb 25 (UTC)

addtional tests

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  • #1, #2 and #4 works properly at [[:sv:] but #3 not
  • #1 - #4 works properly at [[:de:]
  • #5 - #8 will all fail because "w:" is used

see also

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  • Notes:
  • in order to document here "what you see as documentation" is coded differently as "what is coded in the links"; the usual method is used:
  1. &amp;#nnnn; stands for &#nnnn;
  2. &amp;#xnnnn; stands for &#xnnnn;
  3. &amp;#37; stands for &#37; for %
    an alternative would be &amp;#x25; stands for &#x25; for %


  • all links have been inserted with the copy and paste method
    if you make a preview you will see links
  1. changed to &#nnnn; encoding and
  2. containing characters in the range 128 - 255
  • you should know that they will fail
  • there are more "workarounds" to fix the links
  1. using &#nnnn; encoding for all characters > 127
  2. using &#xnnnn; encoding for all characters > 127
  3. using hardcoded %nn for all characters > 127
  4. a mixture of the methods above
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  • important note:
  • Unicode ofers multiple ways to go.
    • "opticaly" the following two characters "seems" to be the same
      • uppercase letters
        • &#138; &#138; &#x8A; &#x8A;
        • &#352; Š &#x160; Š
        • probably other more or less advanced Unicode or HTML coding
          &Scaron; Š (see alanwood.net)
      • lowercase letters
        • &#154; &#154; &#x9A; &#x9A;
        • &#353; š &#x161; š
        • probably other more or less advanced Unicode or HTML coding
          &scaron; š (see alanwood.net)
    • because of "the exact match" for accessing titles with MediaWiki only one is allowed:
      • sk:Hnúšťa fails coded as [[:sk:Hnúš&#357;a]]
      • fails also as [[:sk:Hnú&#154;ťa]] coded as [[:sk:Hn&#250;&#154;&#357;a]]
      • works as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hn&#250;&#353;&#357;a]]


  • sk:Hnúšťa fails coded as [[:sk:Hnúš&#357;a]]
    • fails also as [[:sk:Hnú&#154;ťa]] coded as [[:sk:Hn&#250;&#154;&#357;a]]
    • works as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hn&#250;&#353;&#357;a]]



things to discuss

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  • it looks to be necessary to have an "alias" translation table for pywikipediabot; hopefully only one for Latin-1 and one for UTF-8 type wikis and not one for every language;
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ú

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š

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š failures

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from bugzilla:65#c17

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  • Brion:
    • NEVER use &#154; or &#x9A; for s-caron. Numeric character references always refer to Unicode code points, and U+009A is a reserved control character, *not* s-caron. It might appear to work sometimes due to a fluke and crappy workarounds for compatibility with a Windows bug, but should definitely not be relied upon. Use the real Unicode number, &#353;. The same goes for the other characters in the Windows CP1252 extended range (see ISO 8859-1#Windows-1252 ).
    • For the moment the only named character references that will work in links are the ISO 8859-1 ones (s-caron does not appear in ISO 8859-1). Stick with the numbers for now.

MediaWiki, meta:PyWikipediaBot and en:Category:Diacritics

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  • From the example above it can be seen that &<x>acute; is supported by MediaWiki and
  • From the example above it can be seen that &<x>scaron; not.
  • As you can see scaron are used in the code and titles:
  1. en: Josef_Hir%26scaron%3Bal
  2. en: Edvard_Bene%26scaron%3B
    By the way: Why Edvard Beneš is redirected to Edvard Benes? OK! If the en: comunity wants this so it's fine for me  
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