User:Bookofjude/Archives/May 2006-June 2006

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Source code

Hi Jude :) I remove the Wikisource tag from Thread safe VCL component programming example because of our new policy to exclude reference data. I also alerted everyone that voted at the Afd as well as the closing admin. I am not sure what will be done with it now. I saw you had re-added the tag, which I have again removed. So I guess we are in a edit war now! ;) Seriously though I am not sure what should be done in this case I going to try and keep an eye on AfD and let everyone know our new inclusion guidelines. However I would rather not see any more of this material that we have decided to exclude actually moved over to Wikisource. --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 11:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

David Myatt

Thanks for converting the citation style on the Myatt page. Well done! —Morning star 19:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I thank you

Dude, you're good. I'm...in shock. You reverted the first case of vandalism to my talk page within...seconds. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were the GIPU that vandalized it in the first place! Nice work, man. I guess you've watching me. Well, anyway, thanks again. The Anti-Gnome 06:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

David Myatt

Hi Jude, I've just looked at the ref fix-up you did on David Myatt. Thank you for doing that; I've done it myself a few times and I know it can be a lot of work. I have a query. I noticed you used some kind of citation template. I've seen a few people use this, but I'm unable to see the benefit of it, and in fact it seems to create a lot more work, especially for people who want to alter anything afterwards (e.g. to write the citation in a different form, you have to delete the template and start again). But I may be missing something beneficial about it. Would you mind explaining to me what the advantages of it are, if you have time? (If you don't, no worries.) Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 10:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Migration to Wikisource

• Linguistics and the Book of Mormon has both Book of Mormon links and links to the KJV Bible which is the authorived version for that church. I have also been adding (KJV) behind those refences outside of the Sourcetext template.
• Archaeology and the Book of Mormon has alot both in text and in citations.
• Book of Mormon chronology within the text
• Various Book of Mormon people within the text again
• Cumorah as external references
• Restoration (Mormonism) This is all KJV
• Plates of Nephi from text
• Nephite ciations and in text
• Jaredite hyperlinks in text
• Criticism of Mormonism Both BOM & KJV
• Helaman citation style
• Lamanite in text plain and linked

Thanks ever so much --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 16:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I've struck the ones I've completed already. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 02:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll finish the rest sometime tomorrow. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 14:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Done all but Helaman, I'm not certain what the issues were with it. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 02:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I looked the history on Helaman and you have alreday fixed it! You must have forgot to cross it out. :) I do not know when I will be around IRC. Probably Friday. My Grandma is in the hospital and I am out of town right now using dial-up which I was very happy to find in the family room here. Thank you for taking care of these and I will talk to you in a few days.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 17:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yay Jude! I was checking in and saw you had finished all the migration. Great work! Sorry I couldn't share the load more. Now tell me your theorectical soulution to quoting passages of serveral verses of the Bible has panned out and my day will be complete.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 04:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

.NET Bot Framework

Hi, thanks for applying to use the .NET Bot Framework.Your request has been approved, and you should soon receive instructions as to accessing the source code of the framework. You have also been added to the Spam list for announcement emails regarding the framework. If you do not wish to receive these announcements, please feel free to remove yourself from this list. Messages sent will involve announcements of new versions, features and other important information. Thanks, and enjoy your use of the framework,Werdnabot ^(DNBF)/_T\^C on behalf of Werdna648^T/_C\^@ 13:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, bot spam. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 13:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:British Cypriots

Bookofjude, I am the person that you have punished for 1 hour blocking few months ago because I was destroying the category:Greek Cypriots and u didn't allow me to put in on deletion and u told me to discuss since it has been created by a lot of effort.

Similar thing happened yesterday, when I had created the category British Cypriot and an idiot guy called User:Mel Etitis. I am pleased if you behave with the same way that u behaved to me, by dropping it from deletion and warning him from block since the category was created by a lot of effort by me. —User:KRBN 10:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Shared IP categories

On April 3 and 4 you created a bunch of subcategories under Category:Shared IP, but many of them remain empty. What were your intentions with them? Perhaps I could help, or if they will not be used, I could delete them. Let me know, thanks! ~MDD4696 23:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Kyluness

Yes, it's me, the critter that's always pestering you in Ze Sekrit Kommand on irc! Just figured I'd drop a note and say hi. Love the page. There's a stain on your shirt, dearie. No, try cold water... ~Kylu (u|t) 08:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, you

Thank you! Hello, Bookofjude/Archives/May 2006-June 2006 — The highest Thank you for your support on my recent Nomination for Adminship. It succeeded with a final tally of 85/11/6 and I am now an administrator. Be sure to let me know what I can do for you. Bastique▼parlervoir 13:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Mittelmarchthe

You recently created the above redirect to Middle March. This article does not exist, and the redirect seems to be a quite unlikely typo. I was wondering if you might be able to clarify your intent here. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

WIKISOURCE

I have noticed several edits that redirect scriptures to WS. I am just curious. What is the benefit of making all the redirects when the initial ones were sufficient? Storm Rider ^(talk) 15:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

When the required content is available on a sister project, it's best to link to other Wikimedia projects, rather than external sources. First and foremost, relying on internal sources, which share our policy of neutral point of view and verifiablity ensures that users are given accurate and neutral information. Additionally, Wikimedia is not a detached series of unrelated projects, but rather a cohesive whole that, when used as a whole, provides a richer and more productive experience to our visitors. Inter-wiki linking to sister projects raises awareness of the other projects, increases their profile, and helps to provide the needed flow of good contributors to smaller projects. External linking does not benefit Wikimedia at all, and indeed, may draw users away from our projects. It is in the best interests of Wikimedia, and Wikipedia as an important part of the Wikimedia community, to support our sister projects whenever possible. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 08:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree with it, but it does cause difficutlies at times. For example, in the changes made to LDS scripture such as the Doctrine and Covenants what is now referred to is Covenants 12:15. Mormonism does not have a book of scripture called Covenants. Is it possible to change the reference to either the whole name of the book or an abbreviation such as D&C? Those familiar with Mormonism will recognize this abbreviation easily.

RfA

IT HAS BEGUN *dun dun dun*--Shanel ^§ 00:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Pissed that I only got to be #22.. no one told me! ++Lar: t/c 02:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article The City in the Autumn Stars, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

I still think it needs to say which was the day book and which the night book but it seemed fitting to pick this one on your RfA start day... now write another good one to keep your mind off the nom process, which can be nervewracking... ++Lar: t/c

Question

(this comment is to be taken less-than-seriously) Well, before I was so rudely interrupted by Essjay, I was asking you a question:

Additional question by Celestianpower (as compulsory as they come)

4. Gnome or KDE? --Celestianpower ^háblame 09:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

A: Blackbox.

Regards, --Celestianpower ^háblame 09:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, come on, no contest: GNOME! Ian13/talk 09:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahem. Jude (talk,email) 09:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm with Ian on this one :P. --Celestianpower ^háblame 09:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Bookofjude/Archives

Did you do this manually or did you find some more automated method to get the linked topic headings? Petros471 09:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I do it semi-manually with the replace tab. I copy the contents table over, search for [0-9]\s([^\n]*), replace with [[(archive location)#$1|$1]], fix up possibly duplicated headings, append 2, 3, etc, where required, and then format it into one large-ish block of text. Then I move the actual content of the talk page to the subpage, etc. Quite simple, really! Which reminds me that I should probably get around to doing it... Jude (talk,email) 10:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll see if I can get it to work for me next time around. Cheers, Petros471 10:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Because you asked for these

Enjoy.......

Questions from Tawker stolen borrowed from JoshuaZ and Rob Church and NSLE. They are 100% optional but may help myself or other voters decide. If I have already voted please feel free to ignore these questions though other editors might find them to be of use. You can also remove the questions you don't want to touch if you like. :)

1. You find out that an editor, who's well-known and liked in the community, has been using sockpuppets abusively. What would you do?

   A

2. An editor asks you to mediate in a dispute that has gone from being a content dispute to an edit war (but not necessarily a revert war), with hostile language in edit summaries (that are not personal attacks). One involved party welcomes the involvement of an admin, but the other seems to ignore you. They have both rejected WP:RFC as they do not think it would solve anything. Just as you are about to approach the user ignoring you, another admin blocks them both for edit warring and sends the case to WP:RFAR as a third party. Would you respect the other admin's decisions, or would you continue to engage in conversation (over email or IRC) and submit a comment/statement to the RFAR? Let's say the ArbCom rejects the case. What would you do then?

   A

3. If you could change any one thing about Wikipedia what would it be?

   A

4. Under what circumstances would you indefinitely block a user without any prior direction from Arb Com?

   A

5. Suppose you are closing an AfD where it would be keep if one counted certain votes that you suspect are sockpuppets/meatpuppets and would be delete otherwise. The RCU returns inconclusive, what do you do? Is your answer any different if the two possibilities are between no consensus and delete?

   A

6. Do you believe there is a minimum number of people who need to express their opinions in order to reasonably close an AfD? If so, what is that number? What about RfDs and CfDs?

   A

7. A considerable number of administrators have experienced, or are close to, burnout due to a mixture of stress and vitriol inherent in a collaborative web site of this nature. Do you feel able to justify yourself under pressure, and to not permit stress to become overwhelming and cause undesirable or confused behaviour?

   A

8. Why do you want to be an administrator?

   A

9. In your view, do administrators hold a technical or political position?

   A

A smile for you

Randy Johnston has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

BOPP'D!

Xyrael has bopped you on the top with a mop! Bops promote not only WikiLove, but also steady loss of brain cells! Hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the Moppage by bopping someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, and help the chief Mop achieve his goal of world domination. And to spread the Moppage, just use {{subst:User:Master of Puppets/Bop|<you>}} replacing <you> with your username. Happy editing! Xyrael ^T 13:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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Camp Avoda copyvio

(I'll watch for any replies on this page, not on my own talk page.)

You had it marked as a copyvio of another Wikipedia article, which is probably not what you intended. I changed the copyvio URL both on the article and the copyvio page to [1] which seems to be where the text came from. -- Hirudo 06:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Oops. In actual fact, the link was this one, but I must've copied the wrong URL into the copyvio template, and then when I subst'ed it onto the page, I copied the line from the actual template. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! I've update the URL on both the article and the copyright notice page. Jude (talk) 06:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations!
It is my great pleasure to inform you that your Request for Adminship has closed successfully and you are now an administrator! Useful Links: • Administrators' reading list • Administrators' how-to guide • • Administrator's Noticeboard • Administrator's Noticeboard for Incidents • Administrator's Noticeboard for 3RR • Your admin logs: • blocks • deletions • moves • protects • uploads •

If you have questions, feel free to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! Essjay (Talk • Connect) 22:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

18:56, 26 May 2006 Essjay set rights for "User:Bookofjude" (+sysop) Congrats! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

So, how soon until you join us? Want me to just add you now? --Cyde↔Weys 23:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

*starts making a lame joke on the Hey Jude song* Actually, I'll probably not do that. Anyway, congratulations! :) Master of Puppets ^{That's hot.} 23:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Thoroughly deserved! Congrats, mate. NSLE _(T+C) at 01:10 UTC (2006-05-27)

Congrats! You deserve this! --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 02:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! Congratulations! - Tangotango the Obscure 04:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Use this well! Cheers, Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 04:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Just like Essjay, to close the RfA hours early due to WP:SNOW and thus ruining the chance for my retraction and you winning unani. >:| seems right. Grats anyway. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 05:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Brian | (Talk) 08:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. I'm glad we have another admin who knows how the citation templates work :P. The admin-requests are coming soon.... --Ligulem 08:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

/me adds another totally unneeded congrats :P --Xyrael ^T 09:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC) Congrats and you are very welcome. Yours,  :) Dlohcierekim 11:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats, I see that one of your first actions as a admin was to unblock me (sitting on the same proxy as User: 202.156.6.54), very good work! Thanks! When this happens again, how did you find out that you should unblock, i.e. what should I do to get unblocked faster next time :-) , and again thanks and congrats!Stefan 14:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations buddy! I knew you had it in you! ;) --Andy123 talk 16:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Haha, I don't think you want to figure out what I said... Heck, I don't think I want to figure out what I said... Sasquatch t|c 17:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Conguratulations for becoming admin of Wikipedia. According to message on the top. Daniel5127, 03:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...Me too! Werdna_T^c_@^b_C^m_L^t 22:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on becoming an administrator! Best of luck =) Kalani ^[talk] 21:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to talk to you on IRC about this, but you're not there so I guess this is as good a place as any. Well, I just want to give you my sincerist congratulations regarding your adminship. I know Wikipedia would be a different place without you. Best of luck and I want you to know you can always get my help should you ever need it. --mboverload@ 07:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Fish. Snoutwood (talk) 07:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh I guess so...

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I was bribed into doing it! Oh and congrats on the adminship too ++Lar: t/c 20:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi Jude, and an extreme BBQ cabal thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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Sopeutral

Congrats. When your RfA first went up, it was being discussed in one of the IRC channels and I told you I was going to support, oppose and be nuetral all at the same time. Someone suggested I "sopeutral", so I did. Ah, the glory of IRC. Pepsidrinka 16:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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s:Bible (King James)/Zechariah

Could you versify this? The contents had got mixed up during a page move.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 11:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I have to also show you s:Template:Biblecontents-Wycliffe . I didn't break it! Of course I used the first(hence) simplest version of your template to work off of. So it doesn't have the magic category feature. Do you think you could add that in? And also give a category for Middle English. I wish I could stay online, but I must be off to work.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 11:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)