User:Cassiopeia/NPPSchool/Willbb234
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Notability
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When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.
- A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.
Answer: New editors are very important for the Wikipedia community so that the community can grow and gaps left by inactive users can be replaced. By 'biting' newcomers, this can deter users from joining the community. Assuming good faith means that users will assume that a user is here to build an encyclopedia instead of not building an encyclopedia. New users often don't comply with policies and guidelines (its very hard to when beginning to edit) so users must have patience and ultimately assume that the user wants to improve Wikipedia even if they don't fully comply with the policies.
- .We should always help the new editors who want to provide good contribution and want to improve Wikipedia even at time they might not know the the Wikipedia guidelines. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 2. In your own words, how does notability is defined in Wikipedia?
Answer: Notability is a very broad and somewhat undefined subject in that a lot is left to users in interpreting what notability is. Notability basically means that not everything can have an article on Wikipedia, for example, minor footballers cannot have an article on them, unless they have reached a certain level or have done something significant in their career. Notability is most often determined by coverage in reliable sources.
- In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list (1) if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?
Answer: (Per WP:NOTGUIDE, it should not be included) - In terms of the notability of the subject, it is considered notable as it is covered by sufficient sources (such as [1]). As said, I would never include this in an article, and certainly not have its own article.
- Even thought the subject has many coverage from independent reliable source, but it fall under WP:NOTGUIDE and for such it is not considered notable to be included in Wikipedia stand alone mainspace. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?
Answer: GNG refers to coverage in sources and how we can judge notability from these. On the other hand, specific notability guidelines are applied in specific cases where there may be sufficient sources, but the subject has not achieved a specific accomplishment or hasn't participated in a certain area to merit an article. An example could be the footballer mentioned above.
- You didnt answer the second part of the question. Kindly answer. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
GNG should first be used when patrolling as this is the most common way of determining whether or not the subject is notable. If sources can not determine notability, then SSN should be used so that the subject can be determined to be notable.To answer simply, both can be used when patrolling. (@CASSIOPEIA:) Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk)
- 5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?
Answer: Per WP:CRYSTAL it could be debated that it not concluded - In this case, there would most likely be sufficient sources if searched for. Without sources, the article can not exist, but, in this case, I believe the 2024 Summer Olympics can exist as it has been well discussed by reliable sources (see the reference section of the current article for examples). To put it simply, the subject is notable, but the article has not been expanded sufficiently to reflect that.
- Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- B. Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below, please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
- 6. A New York city based 2019 start up software company , specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
Answer: Fails WP:NCORP. Doesn't satisfy "The scope of their activities is national or international in scale." The fact that the subject has been invested in doesn't mean that it has notability.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 7. Maycee Barber who is a female Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 7-0 and she is currently ranked #12 in the women's flyweight division.
Answer:She has fought at least 3 times in UFC which satisfies WP:NMMA.
- Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series is NOT a UFC event. She stands 2 fights under UFC as per date. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2019 and to be released on August 2020 in the cinemas.
Answer:Per WP:NFF the shooting of the film has not yet begun so the film doesn't merit notability.
- . Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2019 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
Answer:This is a tough one, but, per WP:POLITICIAN, they have not received significant press covergae to have notability. They have not previously held a "international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office", so they fail bullet point number one. As said, this is a tight call, but I would say fail.
- . Generally, a politician who holds no prior position running for a sit would not considered pass WP:POLITICIAN. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.
Answer:Doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO. Thousands of artists are listed on Spotify, so this doesn't, in the slightest, make the artist notable.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- C. Based on which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations
Answer:WP:NACADEMIC bullet point 8 states that "The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area." which the subject satisfies as the editor in chief of the Journal of Economic Psychology. It is a tight pass, but I think the person is notable.
- Meets WP:NPROF #1 [2] for being highly cited and #8 and chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology [3]. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- 12. Alistair Overeem
Answer:Subject has been in dozens of UFC fights so easily passes WP:NMMA.
- . Overeem not only meets WP:NMMA but also WP:NKICK where he fought under K-1. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- 13. Jennifer Lopez
Answer:Meets several of the WP:MUSICBIO criteria. For example, they have had songs nominated for a Grammy, which meets bullet point 8
- She also pass WP:NACTOR. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer:The evnt was WP:LASTING - related events have continued every decade since the event (see Three Mile Accident#Timeline)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- 15. Persepolis
Answer:PAsses WP:GEOFEAT as it is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Also passes WP:GEOLAND as the first bullet point is met, saying "Even abandoned places can be notable, because notability encompasses their entire history." (also WP:NTEMP)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Willbb234, See above and ping me when you are done with the questions and ready for review. (Note: Assignment 2 - Sources). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Done Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Greetings. Pls answer part 2 of question 4 which you have missed out and see the above comment. Once you have done answering Q4, please ping me. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions and if not and let me know you are ready to move on to next assignment.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: all ready. In regards to the question i got wrong, I know nothing about UFC or mixed martial arts so I misunderstood the SSN. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, No worries for getting it wrong as these are exercises. There are many Sport SNG (sport notability guidelines) and not many reviewers familiar with some of them let alone all of them. If you are not sure while encounter an article where by the SNG is a little bit complicated, then leave it for other patroller to review the article. I nominated an Indian cricketer article for deletion as the article stated he played for Indian government agency, it turned out that in India particular government agency is a high level competition club (even I watch cricket myself and I was not aware of that) and the article was voted a keep. I will working on next assignment in next few days and will post the assignment for you once it is done. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:02, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: all ready. In regards to the question i got wrong, I know nothing about UFC or mixed martial arts so I misunderstood the SSN. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions and if not and let me know you are ready to move on to next assignment.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Greetings. Pls answer part 2 of question 4 which you have missed out and see the above comment. Once you have done answering Q4, please ping me. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Sources
edit- A. Sources
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.
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Topic | Explanation | 5 Examples | Comment by Cass |
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Reliable source | Reliable source is a very broad term. Determining a reliable source can be hard, but there are some characteristics which help us to identify a reliable source. For example, if the source has an editorial process, this can help increase reliability as more than one person has read the source before it was published. Reliable sources have to be WP:Published. Additionally, tabloids cannot be reliable sources. Reliable sources basically mean that we can trust the information that they have provided. |
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. Reliable source - Third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, reliable editorial judgment where by all majority and significant minority views are present and pursuant to the verifiability policy. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
User generated sources | Sources which are open to editing and creation by any users of the site. |
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Non Independent source | Sources connected either directly or indirectly with the subject. These can include sources written by the subject or an association with an interest in promoting or demoting the subject in any shape or form. Although non independent sources can be used, this is in very rare cases such as quoting the source and fully attributing the quote to the source. These sources are not reliable as the author has a COI and may look to promote or demote the subject. | . If an editor use the above sites which the subjects have associate with then the sources is not independent. Press releases, interviews, advertising even in a reliable sources (said Guardian Newspaper), would still considered not independent. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
- 2.
Type | Explanation | Sources (15 Primary ; 5 Secondary ; 5 Tertiary) | Comment by Cass |
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Primary | A source based off of evidence, data and information collected by the person producing the source. If one were to measure the height of a tree, then write down the height and publish the result, then that would be a primary source. If one where work for a business, and write down about that business then that would be a primary source because the information has been collected by them. |
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Very well. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
Secondary | A source based off of primary sources. These sources are usually more accessible than primary sources as they are presented in a more user/reader friendly fashion. Secondary sources don't have to be written by an expert in that particular field. |
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Tertiary | Sources based off of both primary and secondary sources, but usually the latter. Although secondary sources usually include a large amount of information to satisfy a reader, tertiary sources can include even more information as they use several secondary sources. |
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Subject | Primary | Secondary | Tertiary | Comment by Cass |
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Example: Art | Example:Sculpture | Example:Article critiquing the sculpture | Example:Encyclopedic article on the sculptor | |
History | Field report | Book written by a historian | The Second World War article written on Wikipedia | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
Science | Journal of results after a biological expedition | Journal presenting, detailing and explaining the results after the expedition | Directory locating the book in a library | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
Athletes | Table/spreadsheet of results | News article written by media on the results | Timeline in a book showing when the significant date was | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC) |
- 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?
Answer:For that answer, you would have to look at the fundamentals, and more specifically Wikipedia:Verification, of Wikipedia. I cannot answer that question because I am not Jimbo Wales - I just go by what the rules say, and the rules say to verify claims.
- Without verification, any editor can place any info in Wikipedia and we would not no way to verify the info. If a source is included, then we could see if the content claimed is as per source. The reason why independent, reliable source important is that not only we would know if the source is independent from the subject but also is the source is from reputable, fact-checking and accuracy, reliable editorial site. If I am the one input the info, you would ask - who is the CASSIOPEIA, where can I verify what the user say/info added?. Get the picture? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?
Answer:No, we can't. Wikipedia is a user-generated source so it doesn't meet WP:RS. However, we can use the sources provided by other Wikipedia articles to then verify what we want to add.
- very good. - see WP:CIRCULAR. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?
Answer:Sometimes we can use Twitter as a source. If someone tweets something then it is not independent as they have tweeted it themself, but we can still use the source and quote from their tweet. We even have a template for this.
- , Twitter is user generate sites and it is generally considered not independent and not relaible. However, some of the tweet can be reliable and independent if the tweet come from a reputable major newspaper. Example of of reliable but not independent source would be a well reputable newspaper (New York Times) interviews a subject (Mr. Walker) (80% of the article in New York time is a direct quotes) and we use that article as the source for Mr. Walker in Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?
Answer:The Sun is an independent source for news but it is not reliable as it is a tabloid news source, thus, it doesn't meet WP:RS.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Pls indicate "y" for yes, "n" for no or ? for "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".
Q8 and Q9
edit- 8.
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan.[1][2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture."[3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | The source is major newspaper | The source is reputable published source | The source discusses the subject directly and in detail | ✔ Yes |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | The source is connected with the subject | The source is not independent of the subject | The source is solely about him and his work | ✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | The source is not connected with the subject | Bloomberg Businessweek is a long running, reputable source with an editorial process | Well covered | ✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | Written by someone who appears to have no connection with the subject | Description says that information in the book is based off of primary sources. | Book is solely based on him and his work. | ✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ Hoffman, Barbara (2017-06-07). "Famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright had a dark side". New York Post. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Frank Lloyd Wright's Work". Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BW Online | July 28, 2004 | Frank Lloyd Wright: America's Architect". 2008-03-02. Archived from the original on 2008-03-02. Retrieved 2019-10-22.
- ^ Robert C. Twombly (24 April 1987). Frank Lloyd Wright: His Life and His Architecture. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-85797-6.
- . For source # 2 [4] I think you meant not reliable and not "not independent from the subject". The source connect to the subject = not independent from the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer; Meets WP:ARCHITECT bullet points 2 and 3, based on the information above. He first coined the term 'organic architecture', which meets bp. 2 and he created Fallingwater which is a significant work, thus meeting bp. 3.
- Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Q10 and Q11
edit- 10.
Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA.[2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.[3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor.[4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy.[5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | Not connected with the subject | User generated source | Has only little and limited information on the subject | ✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | He is a member, so the source is connected with the subject | Large, reputed organisation which specialises in the arts | I don't see any mention of the subject here | ✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | Subjects own social media | Social media so doesn't meet WP:RS, see WP:SELFPUB | ? Cannot view as the website requires me to log into the website, which I don't want to do | ✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | Separate from the subject | From a look around, they appear to be a database and are not a reputable source | Only limited information. I'm not sure if the link even refers to the correct person | ✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Jordan D. Lennon". IMDb. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ "BAFTA Cymru". www.bafta.org. 2014-06-16. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ Lennon, Jordan. "LinkedIn Account". LinkedIn.
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(help) - ^ "Jordan David - 2 Character Images". Behind The Voice Actors. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BFI Film Academy". Tape Community Music & Film. 2016-08-24. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- . linkedin.com is a user generated site. So it is not independent from the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
- @CASSIOPEIA: did I put something differing that? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:02, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @/Willbb234: My apologies. I must have looking at different subpage or different questions when I reviewed the above question as I always open many pages when I do my work. Thank you for letting me know. Mistakes are all mine. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:45, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Fails all three bullet points of WP:NACTOR.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Q12 and Q13
edit- 12.
Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim[1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer,[2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland.[3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html | Separate from the subject | The Daily Mail is a tabloid so is generally not considered a WP:RS | More than just a passing mention | ✘ No |
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1108 | He plays for the all blacks so this is not independent | May be considered reliable but it is not independent so not reliable in this case | Plenty of information and much more than just a passing mention | ✘ No |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/warriors-league-team/news/article.cfm?c_id=360&objectid=10399308 | Separate of the subject | Reputable, national news source, with an editorial department | Just a passing mention - a few, brief sentences | ✘ No |
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527943523.html | News source separate of the subject | Reputable, national news source, with an editorial department | Although the source is not solely on him, it covers him in detail | ✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "2019 Rugby World Cup: Sonny Bill Williams is expecting a fourth child". Mail Online. 2019-09-25. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Stats | allblacks.com". stats.allblacks.com. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ Rattue, Chris (2 September 2006). "Jerome Ropati – Miracle in the making". New Zealand Herald. APN Holdings. Retrieved 10 October 2010.
- ^ "The King, Sonny and heir". Sydney Morning Herald. Fairfax. 2 October 2004. Retrieved 12 November 2011.
- - stats.allblacks.com - strictly speaking is not a reliable source just like govenment side as it has "third party", editorial fact checking and accuracy,; however, in general sense we will take them as reliable. Whether a source is reliable or not something it is very hard to identify, when in doubt, we could seek help and opinion from Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: Meets WP:NRU bullet point 1 as he has participated in a Rugby World Cup.
Willbb234 Good day. See Assignment 2 above. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Do you need help on the above assignment? or you are working on it? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Have recite the business week source for (Frank Lloyd Wright). You would able to read the info and answer the question now. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:13, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: All done, apart from last question which I will do but going now. Rest are ready for you to have a look at. Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Have recite the business week source for (Frank Lloyd Wright). You would able to read the info and answer the question now. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:13, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, See my comments above and if need help to identify if a source is reliable, go to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Ping me when you have answered Q13. If you have any question in Assignment 2, pls let me know. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Content Policy
editArticle titles
edit- Please read WP:TITLE and answer the questions below
- 1. Article name "Hannibal Barca" - Does the article name need to be change? and Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC).[1][2][3]
References
- ^ Eve MacDonald (24 February 2015). Hannibal: A Hellenistic Life. Yale University Press. pp. 48–. ISBN 978-0-300-21015-6.
- ^ John Whitaker; Hannibal (1794). The course of Hannibal over the Alps ascertained. John Stockdale, Piccadilly. pp. 1–.
- ^ Patrick N Hunt (11 July 2017). Hannibal. Simon & Schuster. pp. 214–. ISBN 978-1-4391-0977-9.
Answer:
Per WP:COMMONNAME, the article should be changed to simply 'Hannibal' as this name is what all three of the sources give. Although WP:OR is generally not accepted, I know that his name is most well know as Hannibal and not Hannibal Barca, but this would not be one of my reasons in a proper discussion.
- . Even though his name is Hannibal Barca, the article title is just taken his first name "Hannibal" as it is most common name which many sources have addressed him - We often heard the phrase "Hannibal Brought Rome To Its Knees"[1][2][3]. This also apply to subjects known by they nick names - such as professional wrestler CM Punk, whose real name is Phillip Jack Brooks, Roman emperor Caligula whose name is Gaius Caesar or a special way of addressing a subject such as Alexander the Great and not "just Alexander" or "Alexander III of Macedon".
References
- ^ Plessis, Paul J. du (2015). Borkowski's Textbook on Roman Law. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780198736226.
- ^ "Hannibal Barca – How One Black Man Brought Rome To Its Knees". The Pan-African Alliance. 2019-04-02. Retrieved 2019-10-25.
- ^ "Hannibal". Ancient History Encyclopedia. Retrieved 2019-10-25.
- 2. Article name "Magic Johnson". Does the article name need to be change? and Why?(please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons.[1][2][3][4]
References
- ^ Roselius, J. Chris. (2011). Magic Johnson : basketball star & entrepreneur. Edina, Minn.: ABDO Pub. Co. ISBN 9781617147562. OCLC 663953248.
- ^ "Magic Johnson | Biography & Facts". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ Stein, Marc; Deb, Sopan (2019-04-11). "Magic Johnson Always Set His Sights Beyond Basketball". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "Magic Johnson: Michael Jordan said Stephen Curry not Hall of Famer in fear of tampering fine". sports.yahoo.com. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer:
The sources all state 'Magic Johnson', so, per WP:COMMONNAME, this should be kept as the article title.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Biographies of living persons
edit- Please read WP:BLP and answer the questions below.
- 3. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion.[1]
On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin.[2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation.[3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019.[4][5][6]
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.
References
- ^ "The most surprising stories behind Conor McGregor's incredible success". IrishCentral. 13 December 2016. Retrieved 3 September 2017.
- ^ "Video of Conor McGregor Punching Old Man in Head in Whiskey Dispute". TMZ. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ Gaydos, Ryan (2019-08-15). "Conor McGregor seen on video punching bar patron in face over whiskey". Fox News. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ "Conor McGregor charged with pub assault, to appear in Dublin court next week". RT International. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "UFC: McGregor charged with assault for punching elderly man". South China Morning Post. 2019-10-05. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "McGregor appears in court in assault case". ESPN.com. 2019-10-11. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer: Although the information is suitable for inclusion in the article, if this was the only text I would immediately request a WP:G11 as the article is an WP:ATTACK. If the article was longer, covering the subject in depth, I would certainly keep this information, but place it under a 'Controversy' section or later in the introduction. The final two sentences I would immediately remove due to WP:GRAPEVINE bullet point 1, stating the information "is unsourced or poorly sourced".
- WP:G11 - The article does not qualify G11. G11 is about promoting/advertising of the subject. The first pub incident do have reliable source and he has officially been charged, thus it is not an WP:ATTACK page (2) BLP unsouced - the second part about "Terri Murray's son" it should be immediately removed as it is unsouced as per WP:GRAPEVINE. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 4. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213.[1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km).[2]
References
- ^ Anne-Marie Garcia (September 2, 2013). "Diana Nyad completes Cuba-Florida swim". USA Today.
- ^ Alvarez, Lizette (September 2, 2013). "Nyad Completes Cuba-to-Florida Swim". The New York Times.
Answer:
The article is acceptable, apart from the explicit personal information provided - the phone number and address. I would immediately remove this per WP:BLPPRIVACY which states "If you see personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, account numbers, etc. in a BLP or anywhere on Wikipedia, edit the page to remove it". I would then contact the oversight team to have that revision removed.
- } Good. By the way, the address and tel belong to the White House. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Images copyright
edit- Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. Please answer the questions below and (1) with explanation based on Wikipedia guidelines and (2) provide the guidelines/links in your answer.
- 5. Could this image-1 be uploaded into C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: The image is in the public domain as it is on an official US government website. Yes, it can be uploaded.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline:WP:PD#US government works
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 6. Could this image-2 be uploaded into C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: The website states that "This image was acquired from flickr. It was marked as Public Domain or CC0 and is free to use. To verify, go to the source and check the information there"
- . We always check the "original site/source" that the image is in PD (public domain). If we
click on the flickr link provided on the right of the image it will take your to [5] where it was uploaded by the owner and stated PD there. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline: At Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr CCO and Public Domain are both ticked as being acceptable to use.
- 7. Could this image-3 be uploaded into in C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia?
Answer- Explanation: The page clearly indicates that "The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of their rights to the work worldwide under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights, to the extent allowed by law. You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission."
Therefore it is acceptable to use. Also, it is on Wikimedia Commons so "The files uploaded to the Commons repository can be used like locally uploaded files on all projects on the Wikimedia servers in all languages, including Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikisource and Wikinews, or downloaded for offsite use, as all of the content is either in the public domain or released under licenses such as the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License and GNU Free Documentation License."
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk)
Answer - link/guideline: Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons for second quote.
- do provide the link next time, so we are sure the exact info/link you intended to provide. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 8. Could this image-4 be uploaded into C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: I was looking at Displate earlier this morning, what a coincidence!
Anyway, this image would not be acceptable to use as the image is presumably copyrighted (I can't find anything that says that the image is in the public domain or the like).
- . One way we could check it to download the image to our computer and use Tineye] where you might able to find some reverse images on the internet. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline: WP:NFC#UUI states that "A commercial photograph reproduced in high enough resolution to potentially undermine the ability of the copyright holder to profit from the work [may not be used]"
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Neutral point of view
editP;lease read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/pharses and rewrite the paragraph on Question 9& 10 from a neutral point of view.
- 9. She is a brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty. She turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one amateur fight on December 14, 2013 where she destroyed her opponent in 20 seconds. Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014.
Answer:"brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty", "she destroyed her opponent", "Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate"
- Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
She is a boxer. She turned professional at the age of 19, after winning an amateur fight on December 14, 2013, winning in 20 seconds. She fought under XXX promotion on her next fight in February 2014.
- Well-done. (Or we could just stating she won the fight and providing the round and the time if the info could be found from the source. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 10. He is a popular, acclaimed Bulgarian actor, who loves by all who have watched his films. He was born in Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was at the tender, innocent of the age of 14 and he has featured in 44 films.
Answer: "popular, acclaimed", "who loves by all who have watched his films", "tender, innocent"
- Good. There are all not WP:NPOV, MOS:PUFF, WP:PROMO words. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
He is a Bulgarian actor who was born in Veliko Tarnovo. He started working in the film industry at the age of 14, and has featured in 44 films.
- Good. You have good understand of how to a WP:NPOV content should be written in Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
- 11. Please read WP:DUE and in your own words, please explain why it is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article.
Answer: ? You seem to forget to answer this question. Kindly work on it.11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
The purpose of Wikipedia is to inform, not to persuade. If we are to provide more weight to one side of an argument than it deserves, then we would be attempting to persuade someone that that side of the argument is the correct side, so we would be persuading instead of informing. That isn't to say that we can't give more weight to one side of the argument than the other - but the weight should correlate with the popularity/coverage in reliable sources of that view.
Note that 'fringe theories' and very small, minority views shouldn't usually be represented, and especially not in detail.
- . A balance and due weight sourced content should be presented in all points of mainstream views in an article for example Capital punishment article. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:57, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
No original research
edit- 12. In your own words, why Wikipedia is not a platform to publish original research?
Answer:If original research was allowed, then lies and misinformation would be commonplace as we have no way of verifying the truth, instead we would rely that others have been truthful in their research, which is not always accurate. Deceptions would be easy to make as someone could say "I read that somewhere" or "I work in that field", but they could easily be lying and could make up what they wanted in order to fool others or boost their own cause.
- . First of all the content of Wikipedia guidelines is not about truth but about verifiability and the reliablility of the sources. If the content is derieved from original research we would no way to "verify" it as the info is from the primary source which deems not reliable and not independent. Content needs to verifiable so we may know where the info/source from, if the source is independent and/or reliable, and not because it is the facts or true - see WP:But it's true!. If source indicated XXX is from Jamaica but the fact XXX is from Cuba, we put XXX is from Jamaica in article as per source. We will correct the info when the sources (not need to be the same source) correct itself. For example Alexander the Great - How he die is based on which sources you read, from poising, to malaria and typhoid fever to infectious (meningitis) to acute pancreatitis and etc. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 13. In your own words, please provide one example with explanation from your own words if a short phrases from original research or an opinion to be inserted in an article.
Answer:Blatantly obvious information can be included, providing that it is blatantly obvious. For example, I don't need to add a WP:RS to say that 3+5=8 or that humans have two eyes. We can infer things from sources and add them into Wikipedia, providing that the common person could infer that themselves.
- such as sky is blue. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Answer:If I read that "X was born in New York", then I can use my original research to say that "X was born in New York, United States of America." I wouldn't need to add a WP:RS to say that New York is in the USA.
- strictly speaking original search/primary source is not reliable. We would use primary source sparlingly in an article at times for BLP as the supplement sources of the subject but they can not be used to demostrate the notability of the subject. If the info is challenged by editor, then the content can be removed.
- Example such as direct quote - we can verbatim text and copy it to the article with source by either (1) put in a direct quote format - Cquote, Quote and etc in Wikipedia (2) write in a manner that the info is taken from xxx(source/person) such as ' Mr. John Smiths stated that "xxxxxxxxx.....'" and provide the source. (3) WP:Public Domain We can copy and paste exact text/image words/phrases/ paragraph from public domain sites such as United States Constitution or Declaration of Independence of United States (4) we can also copy any texts/image as long as the sites of the sources indicates any form of "irrevocably agree to release their copyright under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the WP:GFDL -"Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed." clauses. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- 14. See this video and write the content in the in an article.
Answer:
Shady Alsuleiman says that jeans don't meet the requirements of the clothing of Islam as they are not "loose" or "baggy". Additionally, he states that clothing must be opaque and not aesthetically attractive. He states that "jeans does not 100 percent fit in [those rules]". Therefore, according to Alsueiman, jeans are not allowed to be worn by women.
- good. Or we can put as a direct quote (use sparingly) as below
“ | Islam demands Islam commands us with our with regards of our clothing for both men and women, our clothing must be first of all baggy, so must be loose with a men or women. It must non see-through whether men or women. It must non colorful attractive that means when someone walks everyone's looking at them.[1] | ” |
References
- ^ Is it allowed for women to wear jeans and trousers? - Q&A - Sh. Shady Alsuleiman, retrieved 2019-10-25
Verifiability
edit- Please read WP:V and answer the questions below
- 15. If the subject has two sons and it is supported by three independent, reliable sources but in reality he has 3 sons. Could we change the content from "2" sons to "3 sons"? and why?
Answer: No, unless we can find reliable sources saying that he has 3 sons. Otherwise changing 2 to 3 would constitute WP:OR which is not allowed. We need to verify this information.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Willbb234, see Assignment 3 above. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:34, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Hi Havent sent you work on the assignment, pls advise are you still want to be in the program? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:07, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: sorry, will get round to it. I had to cast my arbcom vote which took ages to work out each candidate, but now I should be able to participate here. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:57, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Hi Havent sent you work on the assignment, pls advise are you still want to be in the program? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:07, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, OK. Let me know when you have completed the above assignment. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:21, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Good day. I have seen you request for AfC user right and seen you on many AfD and other edits yet no work from you on the above assignment. I do suggest to continue the program as you have requested to enroll and it will reflect on you for not finishing it when you request for other user right. If you wish not to continue then please let me know so the slot of this program will be available to other interested editor. Please let me asap. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:48, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Hi there. I've finished, apart from task 14 as I wasn't too sure what you wanted me to do there? Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:15, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- For Q14. The video is the source (just like normally we use sources from newspapers/books) which you use for the content of an article in Wikipedia. Write the content as per source. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:50, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Understood, however, do you want me to summarise, write all of the content there, pick out only useful information etc? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:53, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- For Q14. The video is the source (just like normally we use sources from newspapers/books) which you use for the content of an article in Wikipedia. Write the content as per source. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:50, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Yes please - that is the idea of it. Once you have done, then ping me and I will review the assignment. Merry Christmas Willbb234. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:03, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Done. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- Willbb234, (1) You forget to answer Q11 and ping me when it is done. (2) See the comments and let me know if you have any questions. Happy New Year. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Done, cheers. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:45, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234, Thank you and reviewed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:58, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Filtering - Criteria for speedy deletion
editPART 2
- We have looked at the requirements needed for a page to meet notable, policy and type of sources to merit a page in Wikipedia in Part 1 (Assignment 1, 2 & 3). In assignment 4, we look at what type of articles need to be filtered out from our system when reviewing a page. There are many criteria of WP:Criteria for speedy deletion. Here we discuss (1) General criteria (G1-G14), (2) Article criteria (A1-A11) and R2.
- Please do the following
- Pls set up your CSD log by installing MYCSD so I could review your CSD nomination. After saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
- Bookmark Earwig's Copyvio Detector in computer or/and install Earwig Copyvio Detector script
|Copyvio detector tool
- Download CV-revdel and after saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
General criteria
edit- 1. Please (G1-G14) at General and answer the following questions in your own words.
No | Criterion | Application | Comment by Cass |
---|---|---|---|
1 | G1 | Text that can't possibly understood, including earlier revisions. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
2 | G2 | Pages created to test how Wikipedia functions, but not including user space pages or the Wikipedia:Sandbox. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
3 | G3 | Clearly and blatantly false and fake information or vandalism | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
4 | G4 | Page created after an AfD discussion was closed as delete. However, if the issues have been addressed since, then G4 doesn't apply. G4 doesn't apply to recreated WP:PRODed or WP:SPEEDYed articles. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
5 | G5 | Page created by a user at the time of their block or ban. Doesn't apply to users creating articles outside of a topic-ban. Does apply to sockpuppets. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
6 | G6 | Page that needs to be deleted for uncontroversial, technical reasons. For example, a redirect blocking a page move or a page created in error. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
7 | G7 | "Author requests deletion" - self explanatory, only as long as there has been no other significant contributors to the page. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
8 | G8 | Pages where the page depends on a non-existant page. eg. talk page of a deleted/uncreated page. This is usually uncontroversial. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
9 | G9 | Deleted by the Foundation for one reason or another. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
10 | G10 | Attack pages. Threaten or harass a living person in all of the revisions of the page. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
11 | G11 | Articles that are purely and fundamentally for advertising or promoting a person, company or thing. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
12 | G12 | All revisions of the page contain copyrighted material. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
13 | G13 | Draft pages that haven't been edited in six months or more. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
14 | G14 | Disambiguation pages only pointing to one or fewer articles. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
Article and R2 criteria
edit- 1. Please (A1-G11) criteria at WP:CSD#List of criteria and answer the following questions in your own words.
No | Criterion | Application | Comment by Cass |
---|---|---|---|
1 | A1 | Unable to identify the subject of the article. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
2 | A2 | Page which is not written in English and is the same or nearly the same as an article on another language's Wikipedia or Wikimedia project, | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
3 | A3 | Page containing very little (less than a sentence or so) or no prose. It can still be deleted under A3 if it contains external links, references etc. as this is not prose. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
4 | A4 | No longer existent and is now contained under A3. A page aiming to contact or communicate with the subject named in the title of the article. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
5 | A5 | Article where the only information provided is contained at a more suitable Wikimedia project. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
6 | A6 | Attack pages, no longer existent as it is contained within G10, see above. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
7 | A7 | A page where that doesn't show that the subject, a person, organization, animal, web content, or event, has any importance to belong on Wikipedia. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
8 | A8 | Same as G12, copyright infringement, see above. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
9 | A9 | A page that doesn't indicate that a musical recording is important and the creator of the recording doesn't themself have an article. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
10 | A10 | A page that duplicates another page on the English Wikipedia, with no improving or expanding details over the original article. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
11 | A11 | Clearly and blatantly made up | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
12 | R2 | A redirect pointing out of the mainspace into the Draft:, User:, or any other namespace excluding the Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help: and Portal: namespaces. | . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC) |
- 3. Pls read WP:PROMOTION and WP:G11 and provide 5 successful CSD 11 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i:Manavata
Answer ii:Zeeyarah
Answer iii:Bill Thies
Answer iv:Top Market
Answer v:Greek Helsinki Monitor
- Pls read WP:COPYVIO, WP:REVDEL, WP:COPYPASTE, WP:DCM and WP:G12 and answer the questions below.
Answer: If all of the material violates our copyright rules, then we must G:12 the article. If only part of the text is a copy and paste move, then we can remove the offending material and revdel the versions which contain the offending material.
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- 4. What constitute copyright infringement/violation.
Answer:Material that is copy and pasted (or closely copied) from another website/book etc. However, if the source of the copy indicates that the material is realeased under a WP:Compatible license, then it can be used as such.
- . Copying material without permission from the copyright holder and it it including texts and images. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- 5. Why some of the texts found in an article are identical as per its sources and yet they are not considered copyright violation? Please provide three examples.
Answer i: Text copied and pasted from the public domain (e.g. a United States governmental source)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Answer ii: Material copied and pasted from Wikimedia sites, as Wikimedia content is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License (CC BY-SA) and GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Answer iii: Content marked a CC BY-SA, CC BY, or CC0 (these a copyright guidelines)
- . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- 6. Why copyright violation needs to be stamped out from Wikipedia and who determined when a violation is lawfully taking place?
Answer: As quoted at WP:COPYOTHERS, copyright violations "could create legal liabilities and seriously hurt Wikipedia". Basically, copying and pasting which violates our copyright rules could lead to the owners of the work making complaints and taking legal action, potentially gaining comoensation from Wikipedia.
Those that sort out copyright problems are the admins who can speedy delete copyright violation articles, the oversight team, which does revdel, and those working at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. It is also down to new page reviewers to pick out and report copyright violations.
- . Copyright infringement violation intails legal implication and in Wikipedia the admins determine if an article violates of copyvio infringement by speedy delete the articl; However, in the ultimate legality of copyvio infringement is determined by the court. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- 7. Pls read WP:COPYVIO, WP:REVDEL, WP:COPYPASTE, WP:DCM and WP:G12 and provide 5 successful CSD 12 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log. You can use Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool to check if an article is in violation of COPYVIO.
Answer i:Mohammad Mozammel Haque
Answer ii:Peyman Sadeghian
Answer iii:
Answer iv:
Answer v:
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- 8. Pls provide 5 successful CSD in any criteria except WP:G11, WP:G12 and WP:G13 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i:Manavata
Answer ii:Zeeyarah
Answer iii:Bill Thies
Answer iv:Top Market
Answer v:Oleksandr Kardakov
- 9. Pls read WP:R2 and WP:NPPDRAFT. Please explain when to a new page (NPP article) can be nominated for CSD R2 and what should be considered when doing such move?
Answer:We can nominate a redirect for deletion when it points from the mainspace to the draft, user and other spaces (excluding the category, template, Wikipedia, help and portal namespaces). When moving to draftspace, the resulting redirect which points from the mainspace title to the draft title should be deleted under R2 for this reason.
When deleting via R2 there are few considerations we need to make as R2 deletion is obvious and requires little investigation/thought.
- Please read the question (see links WP:NPPDRAFT and WP:DRAFTIFY) again and rework your answer. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
After a move is performed from the mainspace into the draftspace, then the redirect created that points from the mainspace into the draftspace should be deleted under R2 as it points out of the mainspace into the draftspace, thus being a croos-namespace redirect which isn't allowed.
- 10. Pls read and A1-A11 and R2 at WP:CSD and and provide 5 successful "Article CSD" articles (with at least two of them are CSD A7) you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY").Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i CSD A7:Rizwan Balouch
Answer ii CSD A7:Alishmas (singer)
Answer iii CSD R2:William Sherman (reporter)
Answer iv CSD R2:Tuna cannery
Answer v any criteria:UBC Directing
Copyright violation and paid editors
edit- 11. How do we spot a COI/PAID editor?
Answer: It is very hard to do so. Usually, we look for promotional language or over-sourcing (suggesting they are trying to make the article look too good). We may also look for WP:OR as this is often the hallmark of a COI editor who wishes to write using their own knowledge.
We can also look at the username and past contributions of the creator as this may tell us about who or what they are representing. Overall, we have to use a number of investigative skills to work out if someone is COI/PAID and it can be very hard to do so.
- Self-disclosure by COI/PAID editors is one of the many ways we find out that they are COI/PAID. The different between a COI say an COI editor write about themselves, or friends is that written prose is not that perfect as compared that to a professional writers' (PAID editor). Secondly, if the article is about a company, the prose of the article is written more like a businesslike (business writing). Thirdly, professional paid editor would provide neat citations and only take one or 2 edits to create the article. In addition, professional PAID editors would create multiple different companies article that normal COI editors would not. Do note PAID is a subset of COI and an COI would also a PAID editor such as a small business owner write about their company or a rapper write about their own article in Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- 12. What you should do when you review an NPP article and notice the creator is a COI editor?
Answer: A good-faith warning is also best to allow the editor to understand the issues well. If the article is promotional, then we can nominate under G11 for speedy. If this is less obvious, then it might deserve to be taken to AfD to see what the community says. If the article only needs a little bit of work, then it is usually best to work on it yourself by removing WP:NPOV issues, after all COI editing isn't prohibited, only discouraged.
- I think you link COI editor are usually create content that is NPOV or promotional here. We are addressing only COI editor inregraless the content they created is NPOV or promotional.
- We report the COI editor to WP:COIN, tag the article with COI using twinkle and Uw-coi to their talk page. An promotional article irregardless if the editor has COI issue can nominated under G11; AfD is for article which does NOT pass notability guidelines. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
13. Please read WP:PAID. What you should do when you review an NPP article and notice the creator is a paid editor?
Answer: The best option is to take the matter to WP:ANI or WP:COIN and have the community decide what is best. However, if the evidence contains private/personal information, then one should email paid-en-wpwikipedia.org.
- Also Add Uw-paid to their talk page Move the page to draft space regardless how many edits and how many pages the editors has created or how long the editors have been edited Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Hi, See assignment 4 above. We have look at what are needed/required in an article in PART 1, now in PART 2 we look at what are needed to be filtered out. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I don't think speedy nominations show up before downloading the CSD log tool so no speedy nominations are showing up, meaning I don't think I can complete the G11 task. If you have any alternatives, please let me know. Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Hi, Please read the instruction on the every top of this assignment on setting up your CSD log. Once you have done that then provide me the URL link. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:54, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have, and nothing is showing up in the log. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Try to CSD a page and wait for 24hr and see if it show up on the log as sometimes delay in updating the database. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:04, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I just requested a speedy, see User:Willbb234/CSD log. Unfortunately, no other pages have appeared. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 It shows up - see User:Willbb234/CSD log. Pls remember to add additional colon " : " from previous message for one space to the right indentation as this is the normal communication protocol to separate message thread. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I will add the colons until there are too many and then it becomes a pain to count and type them all out. Is it fine if I don't? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 You dont need to count just copy the the colons from the previous message and add additional colon that is what I do all the time. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:19, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: hello there. I have done what I can. The tasks involving the CSD log have been left. Cheers, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Hello, pls dont forget to add the colons before starting the message. Pls make it a habit. Your CSD log is here User:Willbb234/CSD log. Pls complete all the CSD and R2 questions. Once you have done that the ping me for reviewing the assignment.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: as mentioned, my CSD log doesn't show the past CSDs so I cannot complete the questions. Please take a look at my log. Thank you, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 If you CSD log does not work then, just provide the article names. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I'm sorry, but I don't think I can remember any. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 If you CSD log does not work then, just provide the article names. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: as mentioned, my CSD log doesn't show the past CSDs so I cannot complete the questions. Please take a look at my log. Thank you, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Hello, pls dont forget to add the colons before starting the message. Pls make it a habit. Your CSD log is here User:Willbb234/CSD log. Pls complete all the CSD and R2 questions. Once you have done that the ping me for reviewing the assignment.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 check your CSD entries from your contribution log - here and go to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and ask for help on about your User:Willbb234/CSD log. I cant review with the article names. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:03, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Pls note even the articles that are in your CSD log, you still need to place them on the assignment as I need to know which articles you nominated for which type of CSD (A7 or G11 or G12 or etc). Also pls provide a brief explanation the reason/justification of your nominations.If you can remember the CSD articles in nature then you need to rework(new CSD nomination) for assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@CASSIOPEIA: I have completed the above assignment. I have never nominated a page for G12 so I have left that area blank. I hope you will understand. Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 19:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Greetings. The assignment is not about you have done before but it is about what is required and here you have the chance to practice. To check coppyvio and nominate the article for G12 is extremely important which is first thing a reviewer should do before review an article. Please read "Please do the following" at the top of this assignment and install Earwig Copyvio Detector and CV-revdel script and read the links provided on Q7 to check copyvio content. Let me know if you need help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 You CSD log is still not working, pls reinstall the CSD log srcipt - see "Please do the following" at the top of the assignment. If you have done that and it is still not working then go to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) for help. If they cant help you then let me know. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: hi there. Earwig's copyvio detector is still not working ([6]), so I am currently unable to do the copyvio task. Everything else is done. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Earwig is working now, but they are still working on other issue. The message on Earwig page has not been updated. I have log a ticket on Jan 27 of the problem - see phabricator T243736. Will check on your answer when I am back from watching the Superbowl. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 22:51, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234
- (1) Please re-read Q9 and reword.
- (2) Pls provide hist diff (when you nominated the page for Copyrevel/G11/G12/A1-A11/R2) for Q3, Q7, Q8, and Q10. Please note if you can find the his diff the rework the answer.
- (3)For here on including Q (copyvio), pls provide current (February 4. 2020 onward) nominated articles and not pass nominated article. See the comment which I have reviewed above and let me know if you have any question.
- (4) See below note section.
- (5) ping when you have done all the above (hist diffs/rework Q9 and answered Q7). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA sorry, I don't understand what question 9 is asking. Also, I added the copyvio article after you included the assignement so it isn't an article nominated in the past. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Sorry my mistake. See Q9 again. You need to provide the the hist diff of all your CSD/PROD/AfD and etc. as I cant view when/what did you nominted since some of the articles have been deleted. Also you need to set up your CSD log as per info above this assignment, go to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) for help or ask admin User:Oshwah for assistance - Oshwah is extremely friendly and helpful, but he is not online daily but he will definitely help you work through the problem as he had helped me many times. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: as the page has been deleted, I don't think I can provide a diff for the deletion. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC) (p.s I'm sorry sbout your RfA, but there were a lot of positives!)
- Willbb234 This is your CSD log User:Willbb234/CSD log some of the deleted articles which you provided are not in the log. For such I can see the info. You need to go back and provide the hist diff your contribution log. Next time, always provide link to the articles and hist diff of the article page which you have edited and hist diff to any request page if there is any. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 I do suggest you to re do the CSD which does not show on you CSD log so you may move on from this assignment. Thank you.02:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Willbb234 Havent seen you edit for a while. Pls let me know if you need assistance. Do note that my user name has changed to sentence case. Thank you. Cassiopeia(talk) 23:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Notes
1. G11 (promo) - What constitute a G11? At times it is hard to define. Although if a article is blantly promote or adverstise about the subject then it is a G11. Sometimes, the it is a little subtle and that would be a judgement call. As a rule of thumb, if article about an entertainers (actor/singer/DJ/artist and etc) in dept of how hard they work, how motivated they are, using all the puffery/flowery languagues and especially the subject does not meet notability guidelines. For a corporation, we would see they list down all they product/services, their directors/key person in the company, they mission, their client, they are the influencer in their industrial, all the words/phrased to enhance/market the company and no substantial info that is supported by independent reliable sources. If you look at the this version of Zapp Scooters which you tagged G11, I have to agree with the editor who removed the tag that it is not a G11 and unsourced info can be removed.
2.G12 (copyvio) -
Copyright violation addresses the use of original expression without permission of the holder which is a violation of laws even the credit is given to the source. For articles, the Copyright Law gives the copyright protection to the “original works of authorship fixed in in a tangible medium of expression” in the newspaper, magazine and freelance article at the moment of their creation, for the life of the creator plus 70 years after, and 95 years for corporation publication or 120 years from date of creation, whichever is shorter.
A “fact” is not considered an original work of authorship; but how the ways facts are recorded where the style of the writing, choice and/or arrangement of words are copyrightable. An infringement of copyright is committed when a person uses the “exact words /almost exact words in a consecutive manner” of the author/holder. To note, as a guideline, a few words copies from the original works and an idea of expression such as "weather the storm", 'crossing the Rubicon" "as dead as a doornail" and etc. proper nouns, document/event/treaty/person/title/ names are generally acceptable and so is a direct quote of speech. However, any longer phrases which would be expression in a number of ways are copyright protected. To use one of two short sentences on a large article generally is ok but it will considered infringement if the edit entry is consists of big percentage of the original work and yet for some (such as newspaper/press/journalism that takes their work very seriously - anything more than 4 exact consecutively words would considered copyvio). To avoid copyright infringement, one needs uses his/her own words to convey the source’s information. Paraphrasing could minimise the the copyright violation; however, "threshold" ultimately, court judgement would determined the if copyright violation has been made.
Copyvio for texts or images shared the same notion that it is not a copyvio if the verbatim texts or images are taken from free licence and Public domain sites/specific page/image. I have indicated to you on Assignement 3 - section 3.3 - Q5, Q6, Q7 that always check the "original source" even if in WikiCommon the editor who upload the image claim taken from a PD site, we need to check the link provided and if the site indicate the image taken from another source, then we check the source. For texts, we need to check the sites if it is a PD, sometimes the disclaimer of PD is not on the page, but on the home page or "about" page or FAQ page. Secondly, for older article (no in NPP Feed), any copyvio texts found, we will revdel it as it is almost always it is not the first versions. If a small amount of verbatim texts found in NPP Feed articles, we would revdel them; but large amount of verbatim texts we will tag G12.
Lastly, here are a few examples where the German car maker Audi was sued for copyright breach.
1. Audi infringed copyright violation over Eminem’s song “Lose Yourself” in their commercial advertising. [7]
2. Audi was fined US $ 965,000 over copyright infringement for using 10 words from Brian Andreas’s story of “Angel of Mercy” - [8]
I think I just had a wake-up call, and it was disguised as a car, and it was screaming at me not to get too comfortable and fall asleep and miss my life. (Audi commercial) Some people don’t know that there are angels whose only job is to make sure you don’t get too comfortable & fall asleep & miss your life.(Brian Andreas’ print)
Hope the above help. Note the above doest not substitute the Wikipedia links I provided above. Please make sure you read the reading material as well. Thanks.
3. Spot COI / PAID
COI editors are permitted to edit Wikipedia and create on the affected articles; however, it is "HIGHLY DISCOURAGE/NOT RECOMMENDED as it is very difficult for the COI editors to write the article/input info into the affected article in neutral point of view.
1.Use person pronouns and possessives (I, we, my, our) 2.Multiple references to company, financial listings, staff lists, interviews, own publication, press release, blog and with clean references 3.Well written prose 'too perfect to be true' and only with single/2 edits 4.Editors have created multiple company related articles 5.Editors disclosed their COI/PAID in their userpage (not tag with COI disclose), or disclosure when they ask question in WP:Teahouse, WP:Help Desk, WP:AFCHD or receivers' talk pages.