Cremastra

Perspiration discussion

Hey Cremastra,

You recently closed the discussion about whether the current article of perspiration should retain its title or be moved to 'sweat'. You closed the discussion with 'no consensus', which I respectfully disagree with. When counting everyone, including those who didn't directly choose a side, the result was evenly split at 50/50. However, WP:RMCI requires an evaluation of the arguments, so let's briefly review them: The opposers stated that they prefer one term to describes both the fluid and the process, and they rejected 'sweat' as too ambiguous, because it can also have several meanings based on its context. They also felt that 'perspiration' sounded more encyclopedic in line with WP:TONE to them. On the other hand, the supporters referred WP:COMMONNAME and WP:MEDTITLE, backed by Google Ngram, and argued for specifying the article either to the fluid or the process and not both at the same time, and aligning it with other articles that bear similar titles like 'sweat gland' and 'night sweats'. The deciding point is in my opinion the more personal feeling in contrast with clear rules and statistics.

Maybe you can explain your thinking. If you prefer not to change the decision, I would accept that and proceed with a move review unless you have another or better idea. –Tobias (talk) 21:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Tobiasi0 I'm a little busy right now, but I'll reply to this soon in full. Basically, I feel that the ambiguity argument is actually just as good as the MEDTITLE-based one – note that the article discusses both in the lead: is the fluid secreted by and In humans, sweating is primarily...

However, I am willing to re-think this close, so no need to take it to move review just yet. I'll get back to you in a bit. (If you don't get a further response in the next couple days, you're welcome take it to MR.) Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 21:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

I am confident in my close. You are welcome to proceed with a move review so that this can be subject to wider discussion/scrutiny. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 00:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Tobiasi0 Pinging again in case they want to take this further? No pressure, just checking in. Cremastra (u — c) 23:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I just started the move review - we'll see where this takes us. –Tobias (talk) 13:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Link for people peering through my archives in future: Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2024 November Cremastra (u — c) 13:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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Already voted! :) Cremastra (u — c) 00:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Czech moratorium

Thanks for closing that. May I ask you to add a "Moratorium is in effect until [date]" or somesuch to the closing statement? Counted from end of RM or end of moratorium discussion, whatever you think best. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Sure. I had added that to the FAQ, but it makes sense to state it in the close as well. Cremastra (u — c) 20:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

That I missed, thanks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, Cremastra,

Please stop creating these categories. Within a day, they are obsolete and we just end up tagging them for speedy deletion as empty categories. You at 900 Wikipedians and the highest category is 1000 Wikipedians, please do not make categories for 1100, 1200, 1300, etc. etc. Just let the page stay in 1000 and after a month or two, when the numbers have settled down, you can form a category for whatever the final number is. But you don't have to create a new category every time the number goes up by 100. No one is keeping track of these categories but you and the admins who end up deleting these categories. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Alright, sure. I don't necessarily why the categories need to be immediately deleted– why not just tag them with {{pec}}, since it could fill up again in the future? – but I'll stop creating them.

Thanks, Cremastra ‹ u — c › 13:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thank-you for the reminder. :) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 12:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi i men i just want to know why you reverting my intelligible edit on purpose regardless of my genuine and optimistic comment edit summary, honestly this article doesn't sphere any notable assertion but unfold the representation of WP:CASTEID sanction 2.126.189.56 (talk) 17:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this comment is completely incomprehensible to me. I'm guessing that English is not your first language, and that you're using Google Translate.

Your edit redirected a disambiguation page about a surname to an article about a caste. There was no reason to do that. WP:CASTEID is about whether peoples' caste should be listed in their biography articles; it is completely irrelevant here. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 17:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

ok captain america, the way you criticising my english speaking is totally unacceptable if you don't know it's strictly opt able in WP:NOPA i been around in this field for more than two year and don't feel abducted till this date thanks to you so straightforwardly come to the topic@Cremastra Harmonicraid (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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