User:Extransit/talkarchives/8

A Side Productions

Hi Icewedge, thanks for your comment. Being a new user, I really try to follow the Wiki criterias. Sometimes apparently not doing so well... (I'm not even sure this is the right place to reply, hope it's ok). It would be a great help for me if you could answer a few questions.

1. Is there a way to prevent this article, A Side Productions, to be deleted? As you can see, it only consists of one single line, but the rest of the article will probably be published later this week. Including citations, references and sources.

2. If it will be deleted, can I create a new A Side Productions article when it is complete?

3. I´m looking for a Wiki mentor (probably not the right term), helping me with upcoming articles. Where could I find this "mentor"?

Thank you for your time. Dafos (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

This is as good a place as any to raise your concerns I guess. To avoid deletion you need add, or at least show that there exist, reliable sources on the group too demonstrate notability per Wikipedia's general notability guideline or show that the group meets one of the criteria on the music related notability guideline. Feel free to make your voice heard at the deletion discussion and to argue your case. If you are unable to develop your article sufficiently and it ends up being deleted but you feel that you still could show that the group meets the inclusion guidelines then there are several avenues of recourse you can take. If you still have content to add to the article then you can create a version in your userspace (e.g. user:Dafos/ASP draft) and work on it there until you feel that it meets the cited guidelines and then request a deletion review, or alternatively if the article is still very stubby when it gets deleted you can just re-post it into the mainspace as there is very little prejudiced against creation of a large article attached to a deletion of microstub.

About mentoring, you are probably looking for Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User, a program I have been involved with. I no longer take on "adoptees" officialy, but if you need any help you can always come ask me. Icewedge (talk) 00:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Icewedge, thanks for your answers to my questions. I have now started editing A Side Productions' article. References still lacking, but in the mean time perhaps you could consider removing the template? Thanks. Dafos (talk) 19:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

About the template; No, I can't sorry. If I was still the only one to have !voted to delete at the Articles for Deletion debate I might consider it but as half a dozen other editors have come out in favor of deletion I am not allowed to just shut down the nomination at my leisure. To be frank I really doubt if your article stands a chance anyways, It does not hurt to try though and don't be discouraged if the AfD does not come out in your favor, many of my first articles were deleted as well. Icewedge (talk) 20:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)Note: I have merged the two sections as they had the same heading and the exact same purpose.

Thanks, Icewedge. Sorry if I take your time yet again, but I don't understand. In your doubt, why doesn't my article stand a chance? (Also thanks for your encouragement.) And where can I reach the AfD? I'd really like to try avoiding this article, which soon will be edited further, to be deleted. Dafos (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Side Productions (which is linked from the template), but I see that you have already found it and commented there. I said it did not "stand a chance" because I did some review of the sourcing out their before I nominated the AfD and found very little, not nearly enough to pass the general notability guideline. Who knows though, I may have missed some so if you are able to turn up some coverage in reliable sources (if a topic has significant covered in RS it is consider by default to be notable) the article may yet be saved. The AfD is due to be closed anytime now though (AfD's run for a minimum of about 5 days and this one has been going six) so I don't think you are going to be able to avert a delete decision in time. Instead I suggest you place a copy in your userspace (as I explained above) and work on it until you think it is ready and then request a deletion review. Icewedge (talk) 23:04, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which recently passed with 126 in support, 22 in opposition and 6 neutral votes.

Thanks for your support in my RFA!!
• If you want to reply to this message please use my talk page as watch listing about 150 pages is a bit messy •
·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 19:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Furman

Hi,

I left some questions at the DYK nomination page regarding your hook for Robert Furman. Here are my comments, copied from there:

Length verified, but I'm curious about the kidnapping...the refs given in the article seem to imply different things. The LAT ref (which is the only one cited for the hook) says the plan to kidnap Heisenberg failed but doesn't say what Furman's role in it was; the AP ref says that Heisenberg was detained and Furman oversaw his detention; the NYT ref, the most detailed, also says that Heisenberg was captured and detained under Furman's leadership. Which is it?

If you have a moment, please respond at the DYK page. Thanks! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 21:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I have replied and suggested an alternate hook and removed the sentence from the article as there does seem to be a possible explanation but the claim does remain factually dubious. Icewedge (talk) 00:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Furman

On 6 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Furman, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 11:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Unwatched pages

This list is quite long so I have collapsed it. Icewedge (talk) 00:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

John Reaves 09:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I have watchlisted all 101. Icewedge (talk) 00:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Category:Vehicle activated signs

OK, so the Category:Vehicle activated signs is ready for deletion. I've never done a "for deletion" thing before, so what's the next step to removing this useless category? Thanks. Mononomic (talk) 15:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Just wait. CFD listings are usually left open for five days. After the discussion period has elapsed an administrator will come along and delete the page. Icewedge (talk) 18:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Mononomic (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the support!

Thanks for supporting my successful Rfa! In your support vote, you mentioned (but didn't specify) some "minor lapses in judgement". Could you elaborate on what those were? Feedback is always welcome!--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 18:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

About my report of User:Fullyang to WP:UAA. I had actually created that account per an Account Creation request as part of my duties on the account creation team. I didn't notice until after I'd created it that the e-mail address was using the Fullyang.com domain name. Do you still think the UAA request was wrong? I'd like to hear your thoughts.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 03:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I guess if that is the case than the UAA report was acceptable, it would have been better if you had included all that in your original rationale though. Icewedge (talk) 02:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

	The Hidden Barnstar
	This user has found Music26/11's secret hidden page! Can you find it?

--Music26/11 14:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Louis Dicken Wilson

On 17 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Louis Dicken Wilson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

August 1, 2003

I was stunned to see the discussion on this closed as "no consensus, default to keep", since very few people suggested an outright keep, and most would have been satisfied with a merge. I honestly don't think the closing administrator paid attention to any of the comments. Regardless of how you felt on this issue-- delete, merge, keep -- I think that everyone's comments showed that a lot of people care about this issue, and "no consensus" was similar to a snub. I've asked for a review, and invite everyone to give their two cents worth at [1]. Best wishes. Mandsford (talk) 23:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Your neutral on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Efe

Hello Stife, I too am a bit unhappy with some of the overzealous response some of the oppose !votes are receiving. However in general, discussion at RFA is an excellent thing and I must say IMHO that was a rather petty threat. I doubt any Bureaucrat would give much weight to a !vote made in response to perceived oppose badgering. It also makes little sense to factor in the behavior of others when considering your !vote, in the end an admin won't be any better or worse for whatever drama happened at their RFA. "Concerns about communication skills" is a valid reason for hesitation, but using a vote to make a point is just not the way to go.

P.S. sorry for not using your "wizard", its late and, like any human being, I prefer the mode of communication with which I am most accustomed. Icewedge (talk) 07:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I don't think neutrals make much of a difference either way. I do have strong feelings about people arguing so much with oppose !voters, though, especially when there are so many.

For what it's worth, you wouldn't have found anything useful in the message wizard for this message :) It's mostly so that people who are annoyed that I speedied their page or want help that any admin can provide are able to answer their own question or are referred to AN and don't have to wait for me to be online. Stifle (talk) 09:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

AFD closing

Hey there, I noticed you closed this AfD. While I appreciate everyone helping with AfDs, when closing do not forget to follow the instructions, e.g. removing the AfD template from the article and posting the result to the talk page. I did it for you this time though. If you plan to do regular non-admin AfD closures, consider using Mr.Z-man's closeAFD script to automate the process. Regards So Why 08:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*facepalm* yeah I usually do, seems I forgot. This is the second time, in recent days, I must be slipping... Arg! Thanks for cleaning up after me. Icewedge (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

Extransit/talkarchives, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community.

I would also like to thank my nominator Realist² and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel ^(talk) for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

--Efe (talk) 10:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Signpost

As of now, I believe Seresin is planning to contribute on a weekly basis. If he decides otherwise, however, I'll try to keep you in mind. However, if you're interested in writing the "In the news" column, that's currently open, but that's entirely up to you, and no worries if that's not your interest. Ral315 (talk) 09:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

That looks great. Thanks for your help, and feel free to continue writing "In the news" if you'd like to; if you're interested, you can also write on other subjects that might come up (for example, if you see a contentious RfA or AfD that you think is worth writing about, or any story you think is notable), and when you're done, just post it in the newsroom. Ral315 (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Viva la Alaskan Cabal!

Thank you to all who participated in my RFA- regardless of whether you supported or opposed, all feedback is important to me. I look forward to proving in the coming months that the trust placed in me by the community is not misplaced. Mizu onna sango15

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		Thank you to all who participated in my RFA- regardless of whether you supported or opposed, all feedback is important to me. I look forward to proving in the coming months that the trust placed in me by the community is not misplaced. —Mizu onna sango15^Hello!

One admin closer to... WORLD DOMINATION!!!! L'Aquatique[talk] 21:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I imagine it would take a lot of Wikipedia admins to achieve world domination, however we can try for WP:DRAMA DOMINATION!!!! ;) Icewedge (talk) 23:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

		The RfA Barnstar
		Extransit/talkarchives, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

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Non-admin closure on Mo-Ranch

Do you really think you should do non-admin closures when there are only three votes? The AfD holds more weight if an administrator gives it the official close. I thought non-admin closures were only to be used in snowball keeps, which that AfD obviously wasn't because of the lack of momentum. Themfromspace (talk) 03:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Non-admins are given the right to make reasonable keep closes (its a common practice), and, after a listing of four days with several in depth reliable sources presented and no delete votes (aside from the very weak nomination reason: "does not seem notable") I did not feel that there was any benefit that would come of a longer listing. Its the discussion in the AfD that gives a close weight, not the closer. If the article for some odd reason is ever taken to AfD again I doubt the fact that I closed it, as opposed too an admin, will make any significant difference. Icewedge (talk) 04:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GC Tooth Mousse

It was already relisted once for additional discussion so I do not think that would be best. Cirt (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for taking my report seriously at WP:ANI#Threat of physical violence. If it had been anybody else I wouldn't have been inclined to take it seriously either, but we're talking about the President-Elect here. --Tkynerd (talk) 15:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I doubt was anything more than a unhappy teenage but there was no harm in alerting them and it was not that hard, it took me only three minutes to find the relevant e-mail address and then another two to type out a sufficent message. I did it mostly just to cover for Bstone though, as had such a threat developed into reality he could (I think?) have been held responsible for not alerting the authorities. Icewedge (talk) 20:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I think perhaps he didn't make the connection that the threat, serious or not, was directed toward Obama. Anyway, I appreciate your initiative, and next time I'll know to do the same myself. Best regards, Tkynerd (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Your user box

Hi Icewedge. I saw your request at DRV and then your userbox. Your userbox reads "This user pushes his various POV's with extreme zeal." That makes you POV on your POV! I didn't even know that was possible. -- Suntag ☼ 16:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually I imagine pushing ones POV on ones POV is quite common (e.g. "what do you mean? I push no POV! I am entirely neutral!"). You could probably iterate that recursively too, ("I remain entirely neutral in my assessment of my assertion of the neutrality of my POV!) ;) Icewedge (talk) 20:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

ANI Threat info

Did you get a reply from the Secret Service on that threat. Btw, I'm going to file a abuse report on the matter. Rio de oro (talk) 00:00, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

No they haven't, which is worrying, I would have thought that they would have at least sent me an acknowledgment reply or something but I don't know. I don't think an abuse report will do much good though as there is not much good we can do if it is not a public IP. If the Secret Service judges it a threat they are the best prepared to handle it. (sorry for the slow response, I was on a trip) Icewedge (talk) 06:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Some commercial IPs DO respond to abuse reports you know. I'm pretty sure I made a particular local vandal/sockpuppeteer disappear after vandalizing from an Embarq IP. There's just a few out there that totally ignore abuse reports, and there's probably an equal amount of schools/employers that do the same. Fact: Many schools, employers, libraries, and WiFi operators watch for abuse such as Wiki vandalism periodically, and while abuse reports may get their attention or make them more likely to take action, many of the more responsive ones don't even need us to complain. Example: Charlotte County Public Schools (blocks access to WP due to abuse by tarpon/manta cheerleaders), Hospital Corporation of America (does NOT block WP). GO-PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 01:50, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I imagine some do, yes, but they would tend to be the exceptions rather than the rule I would imagine. Commercial IP's are much more protective of their users as opposed to schools. In this case I don't think such a report is the right way to go either way, if its a real threat we are entirely ill equipped to handle the situation, and, if it is a joke I don't think we could really get anyone for a single vandalism. Icewedge (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Jclemens RfA

Jclemens' RfA Thankspam

		JClemens' RfA Thanks
		Thank you for participating in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 77 supporting and 2 opposing. Regardless of your position, I thank you for the time you took to examine my record and formulate your response. Jclemens (talk) 02:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

'Chris rinker' prod

In regards to the article Chris rinker, which you proposed for deletion, I have marked the article for speedy deletion, as I think that the article meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion. In cases where it applies, speedy deletion is preferable to proposed deletion. I have left the {{prod}} tag in place, so that if speedy deletion is rejected, your proposed deletion will remain in place. Thanks! -- Fullstop (talk) 04:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

by accident I also added a {{db-person}}, which would match the intent of the NN prod I think. Although by accident, I left it in. -- Fullstop (talk)

Thats OK, It made a lot of claims (something about him being one of the most renowned artists from Seattle in particular) so I was a little bit hesitant about speedy deletion (WP:CSD just says any assertion of notability, not just a cited assertion of notability) but it is likely the tag will be successful. Icewedge (talk) 05:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Reverting erasures to my own talk page by non admin Sjessey is. EagleScout18 (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Sjessey should not be re-adding warnings that you have removed, but that is not simple vandalism and you still have absolutely no justification for giving the edit comment "remove vandalism" for this edit. Icewedge (talk) 04:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. this type of edit was done repeatedly. Pardon me, but, what is your role in this, exactly? EagleScout18 (talk) 04:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

My role in this is that I came to your talk page in response to your {{helpme}} where you asked how you could protect your talk page from vandalism. Wondering what 'vandalism' you could be referring to I checked the history of the page and saw that the source of what you were calling 'vandalism' was in fact Andrew c (talk · contribs), an administrator. Icewedge (talk) 04:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so no real role. Thank you for clarifying. EagleScout18 (talk) 05:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I assume that is a hint for me to get lost. I know it must be irritating to have me pop out of nowhere so to speak and start to rail on you for the way you manage your talk page but could you please tone it down. You can remove material from your talk page if you wish, you don't need to justify such a removal by making false claims of vandalism. Lets put this incident behind us though, there are other more pressing things to worry about than things already done with no lasting effect. Icewedge (talk) 05:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree, let's put it behind us. To clarify, at no time did I accuse the admin of vandalism, but the user who repeatedly reverted my talk page. That's a no-no. Thanks for understanding, I hope we can move forward with civility. Thank you for your input and help, EagleScout18 (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I've been reviewing and cleaning up to some extent after this editor's edits and he seems to have a serious problem grasping and/or following procedures, policies, etc. Basically, someone headed for a block soon if they don't slow down. Not sure how to approach this. Wikidemon (talk) 05:24, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hardly. EagleScout18 (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know either. ES18 looks like a probable sock though, within his first three edits he was already edit warring, POV pushing and citing WP:NOR. I will search around to see if I can find a sockmaster. Icewedge (talk) 05:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, you *just* suggested we move on and get along and now you're accusing me of WP:SOCK? So much for WP:AGF. I'll welcome your apology, thank you. EagleScout18 (talk) 06:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I was more intending just to close debate over the talk page vandalism thing, we were getting nowhere with that, however Wikidemon brought up something that I felt I needed to address. Perhaps I jumped the gun a bit on the sockpupperty accusation although I must say that the first few edits you made to WP are extremely suspicious. Icewedge (talk) 06:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I fail to see anything suspicious at all, except how more experienced users can use bullying and intimidation on a new user, even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:JRH95_and_also_User:EagleScout18 report them to ANI because they used RfC instead of edit warring. EagleScout18 (talk) 06:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the more I see the more I agree about the sock. I asked for some guidance on AN/I, which seems to have set hm off - best to continue the discussion there. If he's really just a confused newbie he needs to chill, if a sock/troll he'll be blocked pretty quickly and likely just start up another account in due course. Cheers, Wikidemon (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikidemon. Shame on you. EagleScout18 (talk) 06:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

HD: Rollback question

I think you misinterpreted the help desk question about the IP rollback. The user was requesting rollback for edits of a non-constructive IP editor, not assigning the permission to the IP.- 131.211.210.70 (talk) 08:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I certainly did, lol. Thanks for pointing that out! Icewedge (talk) 07:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Helmut Friedlaender

On 7 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Helmut Friedlaender, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

DYKBot (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Corsican towers

Perhaps not, but according to what I can find at [2] - which appears to be the local ministry for culture and history, if I understand it correctly, each of those towers has been inscribed in the French national registry of historic monuments. And I can tell you from experience that those are not well-covered online. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 02:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Still, I would be watchful when using a bot to create entries and I would strongly suggest that you retire whatever algorithm you are using, whatever source the bot is tapping is full of many seemingly non-notable entries, I spot checked a few more of the articles you have created and I doubt any of them would survive if taken to AfD. Icewedge (talk) 06:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on finding some way of establishing it, then - at the very least, a link to the Corsican web listings for listed monuments on the island. That's probably going to be the best I can do from the Internet, at the moment. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 14:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Gindling Hilltop Camp

Gindling Hilltop Camp survived the AfD, but its problems remain. I believe you offered to pitch in and work on it. Does that offer still stand? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, yeah I will work on it. I have basically reverted it back to your trimmed down version and am now trying to add some citations. Icewedge (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 01:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Category:Wikipedians

Understood, thanks. RoyalMate1 01:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Its a common mistake so no worries, I added myself to that category too when I was newish. Icewedge (talk) 02:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

RfA Nom

check it for typos! Protonk (talk) 08:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Robin Toner

On 19 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robin Toner, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

The Chop Shop

Ahem, a short while ago, you removed a CSD tag I placed on the article The Chop Shop saying that it is notable, so I placed some tags on it. Later, you brought back the tag I placed. So why did you think it is not notable, and why did you remove it in the first place? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC) Oh, you prodded it. Never mind the above text. Anyway, why did you think at first it was non-notable? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I kind of totally screwed that up with that, sorry.

When I first came across the article I fixed the links ([3]) which turned out to be blue links showing that they were signed on with Psychopathic Records and contained a notable group member, Shaggy 2 Dope. As both of those are reasonable assertions of notability, criteria similar to each of those assertions can be found at WP:MUSC #5 and #6 respectively I removed the tag ([4]). Upon re-reading the article however I saw that it contained the cousin of notable musician, not the musician himself so I decided that it actually might meet CSD A7 and so I decided to revert it back to the tag. So I tried to do that using, TW. When I went to do the revert I wanted to cite some specifics in my edit summary so when TW was asking for a summary I hit the back button on my browser so I could copy paste the labels name and I guess twinkle does not take that well, so thats where the two reverts without a summary came from ([5];[6]). After that failure, I was angry at the CSD tag and the article is borderline so I went with a prod ([7]).

I believe I have just made a complete fool out of myself in the middle of my RfA! Not good :(

Anyways, sorry for the confusion. Icewedge (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thankspam?

Hey Icewedge-
Seeing as the odds are quite good in favor of you passing your rfa, I thought I'd offer my services as a thankspam maker- although I learned my lesson from last time and there will be no barnstars! ;) Let me know... l'aquatique || talk 07:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, it means a lot! However, while I do plan on sending out 'thankspam' if successful, I intend to keep it minimalist, just a one line notification or something. I really do appreciate your offer though and it is tempting given how awesome Mizu onna sango15's was :) Icewedge (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No prob! Let me know if you change your mind, and of course good luck, although I doubt you need it. l'aquatique |✡| talk 07:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Andrew D. Parvensky

I have nominated Andrew D. Parvensky, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew D. Parvensky. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Epbr123 (talk) 11:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup notice

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DYK for Julius Fast

On 23 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Julius Fast, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 19:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

After a strong showing of community support, you are now an admin and I've added the new user right for you. Spend some more time on the administrator's reading list and be conservative in your use of the tools, particularly blocking, and particularly at first. Don't hesitate to ask for help if you need it, and keep up the good work, I'm sure you'll do well. Again, congrats. - Taxman ^Talk 08:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Woo! Garden. 09:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats Icewedge! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! I'm no longer the junior admin. Now YOU have to bring coffee for 1,600 admins every day until someone else is promoted! Making coffee in a 55 gallon drum is a challenge. By the way, cream, no sugar. Kenyan.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

And fair trade. Must be fair trade. And organic. Not that civet crap either. :) - Taxman ^Talk 11:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I take an Espresso, double, no milk and two sugar...oh and congratulations on that RfA you passed. Welcome to the horror house ;-) So Why 12:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, Icewedge! You'll do great. The new admin school has some helpful stuff. Best wishes... Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 14:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, indeed! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sign of a new admin with real potential: the first thing he does is remove his extra perms... Congrats, Icewedge, I think you're going to be a great admin and I look forward to working with you. Viva la Alaskan Cabal! l'aquatique |✡| talk 18:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the congratulations guys! (although, I am still waiting for the admins t-shirt...)

I'll get the coffee on the stove right now, cant say I'm a great cook though, so I imagine you will longing for AniMate's (expected) promotion within the first few sips ;) Icewedge (talk) 00:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the happy holidays greetings WereSpielChequers and Narutolovehinata5! Have great Christmases yourselves :) Icewedge (talk) 00:47, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Look at what Santa brought you

... for you to wear all year. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

The admins' T-shirt.

Hehe, thanks! Santa 2.0 at work I guess. Icewedge (talk) 23:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)