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WikiProject Singing
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Welcome to WikiProject Singing! We hope you will join us in helping to improve information on singing in wikipedia articles and in the Singing wikibook which we also watch over. For a full list of articles we look over and what we do, please read on! Thanks for your interest, --I'll bring the food 19:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Goal: to demystify singing for the masses at Wikipedia. Long term goals are for each article in the Wikipedia Singing project to carry a multitude of references from proper books, and where appropriate, references to peer-reviewed journal(s), not internet sites, with book citations carrying ISBN references. In the case of singing registers such as whistle register, head voice, at least 3 different book sources should be used, all cited as different explanations for the method. In something so complicated, we must not settle for one explanation.

Article Scope: All articles in the "articles in need of attention" are in scope of this project.

NOT: Not to be concerned with working out notes in songs at all. That is very much a subjective science. We are not here to work out who is a soprano, and who is a mezzo. We do not care if David Bowie is a tenor or a baritone, or for that matter, a bass. To label these artists may well offend them, in the case of living artists we may actually create a situation where they feel they have been slandered. Please read WP:LIVING before beginning this project.

How to help:

Wikiproject singing has a nobel advantage over other projects, it's users knowledge of how to read sources and scour them for information has proven to be hugely powerful, in the early days before this project was established, users worked out how to scan songs for possible note ranges of a singer. While this is original research, it proved that there was a possibility for a community with thirst and zest for new knowledge - and the intelligence to find it.

Users who join the project must find out what kind of contributions are expected. They must encourage contributions from everyone, even those that are new to the subject (they can do reviews and check readability).

How you should write, edit and source articles in scope (also part of main page for now):

Imagine a type of singing in which chords can be sung (by one person using one set of vocal cords) has just been invented. There are two books on the subject:

One Man Chord Singing - Jeff Danford
Synopsis: One man can sing entire Chords! Learn how to do it by discovering the only healthy way to eliminate your Passaggio and sing through the frontal mask!
Sales this week: 10,000 copies

Solitary Man Choir - Michelle Corse
Synopsis: There is no such thing as a mask, one must learn how to belt using the lower cord trachea muscles, learn the REAL, healthy method with me, Michelle!
Sales this week: 7,600 copies

Examples

One can imagine the conflicts in an article that could arise:

Chord singing is a type of singing in which chords are sung, this is done by discovering how to eliminate your Passaggio and sing through the frontal mask.

This is obviously misguided - We cannot say this is a good article because it leaves out the obvious fact that Michelle Corse stipulates otherwise. Indeed, even though she sells less copies, Michelle may be right, therefore she must be mentioned as well:

Chord singing is a type of singing in which chords are sung, writer Jeff Danford says this is done by discovering how to eliminate your Passaggio and sing through the frontal mask. Another writer, Michelle Corse who sells less copies says this is wrong and you must use the lower cord trachea muscles, her method has been alleged to hurt people.

This is also completely wrong - but I hear you say, but it mentions both. Well, it mentions Corse, but it also adds information from a web forum discussion in which Corse was defamed by Danford readers who said her method can hurt you. It is obviously biased. The best example of an article is the following:

Chord singing is a type of singing in which chords are sung. One method, popularised by Michelle Corse says you must engage the lower cord trachea muscles. Another method, popularised by Jeff Danford says this type of singing is achieved by discovering how to eliminate your Passaggio and singing through the frontal mask. Both methods are popular, with Corse's book selling 7,600 copies, and Danford's selling 10,000 copies. Both writers allege that each others method will hurt you, and that they use incorrect technique. References One Man Chord Singing - Jeff Danford, ISBN 76365635654 Solitary Man Choir - Michelle Corse, ISBN 56363636356 Amazon.com - Sales ranks.

This example is correct. Note how the methods are given in order of alphabetical surname, not popularity.

Members & Leadership

Current Members

To join as a member, please add your name in the correct alphabetical place in the list below:

1. --I'll bring the food 01:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Leadership and Internal project control.

I'll bring the food is the leader of this project and retains full control of who can and cannot be a member. Anyone who signs up on this page automatically becomes a member. If any member behaves in a way I feel is detrimental to other members, and/or this projects goals you will be warned by me, or if repeating the same inappropriate behaviour, you can be warned by any current member who is not involved directly in the situation (that member should then notify me of their secondary warning).

If you are removed from this project it will be for a significant reason and you will be given at least two warnings first. If you are given a second warning for the same behaviour you will be removed from the project. If I feel you have inserted original research into an article within the singing project scope you may be removed without warning at my discretion.

All pages within this project should not be significantly modified (grammar corrections are fine) or have significant changes made to how or what they say, or how the project should be run without discussing them at "Working together on articles" first. Edits against consensus on this project's sub-pages are forbidden (this rule does not apply to the project leader). People who make edits against consensus will be considered to be vandalising and are eligible to be warned using the appropriate subst template.

Singing articles needing attention category

This category contains articles needing attention because they break assessment standards for how the project believes singing-related articles should look. To add an article, please first check the assessment standards page, then if it breaks them, add the article to the relevant subcategory (levels 1 through 4 which are also explained on the standards page).

Scope

Articles covered by this project are decided by project members. There is room for discussion on what would should be within the scope of this project.

All articles within this link are covered by this project.

Additions against consensus to this project's scope are forbidden (this rule does not apply to the project leader). People who make additions against consensus will be considered to be vandalising and are eligible to be warned using the appropriate subst template. If you have any comments please make them beneath this text rather than on the 'talk' attached this page.

All this project's pages (category)

Contained below are a list of all the article pages which are part of the WikiProject singing project. It's mainly to keep track of any pages which may become unlinked from the project as a whole and become defunct.

Assessment and standards

Articles in the "Singing articles needing attention category" are considered to be within the scope of this project. These articles should meet certain standards, to this end, all in-scope articles are given a level which corresponds to what standards are breached by the article. The level of an article can be decided by any editor who is a member of this project. An article meeting the majority of descriptions below in a particular level should be added to that level subcategory.

To show what level an article is at, all in-scope articles have a project banner on their talk page which tells editors about the project, where to join, and what level the article is at and where to find out what that means.

Level 1:

• Completely uncited explanations for how a singing method works.
• authoritive statements on how something is done without ANY references.
• celebrity pop singer examples added to an article about a classical singing method.
• article seems to overly support one singing method, ignoring others or down-playing them.
• Additionally, any singer biography article with original research continually added to it -- but only about their singing range or fach may be added to this level.

Level 1 is the lowest level of satisfactory article. Level 1 articles are in dire need of attention, citations and NPOV copy/rewriting.