Dear Jowan,
I would credit you with the intelligence to realise by now that Helston as a limited port was no myth, but a well established fact. The sentences as to Daniel Defoe only add to the confusion of readers, and it was just for the obviation of that, that I felt compelled to delete that sentence as to the possible basis of the assumption of Helston port's existence, as well as to attempt to maintain the credibility of such a site. I have quite an extensive network of acquaintants and not one of them that I have spoken to about it agree that Defoe's record (that only applies between Lowertown and Helston, not to the sea), has any basis for their understanding that Helston was once a port. Your sentence of Carew, however, is reliable; but Stephanie Russell, whose account I have long ago perused, has clearly not followed up the mediaeval details of Helston, but is accurate as to the area that was mediaeval. I can cite at least two instances to show this, if necessary.
For my part, I am still waiting on research evidence, and am only interested in maintaining the facts as proved. If you could point me to someone locally at Helston who has carried out sufficient research and convinces me that Helston was never a port, all my edits in any site that make positive reference to its port will be deleted. However, at the moment there is no proof whatever that Helston was not a port, nor that the Loe Bar was thrown up before the 13th century, but rather to the contrary. I am pleased that you removed the reference to Helston as the second oldest town in Cornwall because that was not true; both Launceston and Lostwithiel have 12th century charters, ie. before 1201. Regarding the citation of the excavation under St. Johns Road, I have been given the name to contact for this. Other archaeological evidences of a shipping passage below Helston were demolished within the past 200 years and were not readily visible anyway. Mr. Neil Wood has completed his research on the practicalities of a port below Helston related to the Loe Pool. I am still waiting on another archaeologist to confirm the original name for the Loe; I wrongly read that it was the "Lo", but I reckon that there might have been an older name. Regarding the clarification required as to Helston having had jurisdiction over Helston and Gweek for their shipping, the records of shipping only were in 1302 after the bar (that was only a beach towards the end of the seventeenth century - I have seen that engraving myself in Helston museum) and Patrick Carroll himself does not believe in a port at Helston; so sorry, but that jurisdiction over Helston was an error of quotation and therefore I had to remove it. I have just met three others that do not believe in the existence of a port there.
A big 'Well done' to the last editor who updated the population of Helston at last!194.60.136.6 (talk) 12:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC)Andrew194.60.136.6 (talk) 12:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC) Users normally mean to access Penzance Bay, Cornwall; not New Zealand! Could users also please be able to access Mounts Bay and not just MOUNT! Thank you in anticipation. Now we can access that site direct. Well Done!
All I require is one proof by an area Geomorphologist that the Loe Bar existed before the 13th century. If it existed before then there would have been an older Cornish name for it, since 'Loe' is late Cornish for 'logh'(lake). I was told that the deepest area of the pool is deeper than the sea beyond. The only positive evidence after considerable research that I have undertaken shows that the Saxon name for the Castle 'Wary' <'Were' is 'waer' that means pool, indicating that a pool existed in that area; but, otherwise, there is no evidence before 1014 of anything but the River Cober running x miles through the forested valley to the sea beyond Mount's Bay. If any geomorphologist or other professional is threatening you if you accept counter evidence, that is illegal and I cannot tolerate that.Werdna Yrneh Yarg (talk) 09:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)AndrewWerdna Yrneh Yarg (talk) 09:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Regards,
Andrew