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Tonometer/Tonometry

Dear AED, please do not take my actions personally, but the previous version of the update was creating a negative "suggested" opinion about Diaton; where the opinion was based on TGDc and not Diaton (fyi TGDc is no longer in production). As you have also correctly noticed, "powered by" - we have added Diaton Tonometry as an educational vehicle to Wikipedia just a few days ago due to the FDA approval - it's a new, unique method, which I hope will do much good to the industry and the cause overall. No spamming was intended and would like to request to reinstate the link as external source for information purposes – the link did not lead to the buy page, just presented legitimate overview… I also wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking your time to review all the available info as deep as you have; even I haven’t done as much as you have. There are a number of fresh publications, with up-to-date information about Diaton entering wide media within this and the following months. I will try to make you aware as it appears and would like to jointly, since we're educating the same marketplace, to create awareness of this new tonometry method. Looking forward… ^DA

Is there a particular reason that you keep deleting good information about the negative aspects of the Diaton tonometer from Tonometer and Tonometry? -AED 20:03, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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Um, hello. You left a message on my talk page; something about a Diaton tonometer. Anyway, I think you might have the wrong user. Kimu 05:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I'm not presenting anything at ARVO this year, so won't be there, sorry. but I enjoyed your abstract. I wish you luck with your new tonometer but would suggest that 1) the device needs to be disinfected between patients to reduce cross contamination of patients with blepharitis, 2) limitations of the device need to be clearly stated to maintain credibility and 3) reference should be made to other research which has highlighted the difficulty of obtaining transcleral (let alone transpalebral) tonometer readings. e.g. Kolin T, Wedemeyer LL, Kolin E, Braun Y. Comparison of scleral and corneal Tono-Pen readings. .J AAPOS. 2003;7: 291-292 and Breitfeller JM, Krohn DL. Limbal pneumatonometry. Am J Ophthalmol. 1980; 89: 344-352. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nernst (talk • contribs) 19:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC) Nernst (talk) 19:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your contribution. I don't think the Vestnik Oftalmologii articles are suitable for inclusion as (1) only one of them relates to a clinical study (2) that study is looking at changes pre/post refractive surgery and is not a direct validation study of the device and (3) neither article has an english abstract. The posters references refer to the grey literature and are not suitable where other published peer reviewed evidence exists. If you have some personal experience/interest in the device you may find it useful to familiarise yourself with wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You may find it useful to propose changes on the talk page before making further edits to the diatron section Nernst (talk) 23:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, many thanks for your concilitory message. As a token of good faith I've removed much of the critical (but strong) evidence regarding the Diaton. I think the quote from Liu's Graefes paper is a fair reflection of that paper and the Eur J Oph paper you cite. It remains of concern that the device records IOPs > 3mmHg difference in 30% of patients and that the accuracy worsens at higher values. The diaton has had a long time to prove itself and has so far failed to do so. The inter-operator variability you mention is also worrying. I will be at ARVO this year and look forward to seeing the device in action. I've removed the mention of Newtons 2nd law as all tonometers use this principle and I've removed the section on sterilisation as the device still needs to be cleaned between patients. I think the current page is a generous reflection of the existing data on the Diaton and would strongly suggest that further edits are discussed on the talk page before making further ammendments. Regards Nernst (talk) 02:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Reverting each others edits is a waste of time for both of us, so I was happy with your suggestion of a 'truce' but was disappointed when instead of trying to find a mutually acceptable version, you just reverted my edits. A quick pubmed search on TGDc-01 reveals 18 papers related to the TGDc-01 and the Diaton. I suspect that a unbiased examination of all the literature would result in an article far more critical than any previous version. I am happy to undertake this as you are making it extremely difficult to assume any good faith but instead have reverted the article to the compromise version that followed your suggestion of a truce. Reverting this version will remove any doubt that you are intent on inserting a biased and distorted version of the article.Nernst (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

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