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What do you think

about changing Category:Railroad architects to something like Railroad station architects? Also, if you put something, anything, on your user page then your user name will change into a blue link rather than being the red one that it is now. This suggests to others, or at least to me, that you are not the dead end that red links suggest and that perhaps you are even a serious editor who intends to stay around. The "User Page" tab at the top left of this page will change color too. Consider it, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:11, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I had started a category "Railroad Station Architects" when I discovered a category "Railway architects" already existed, so changing it would be fine with me. But I suppose the original creator of "Category:Railway architects" may not have wanted to appear to limit the category to only stations. An architect, particularly one employed full time by the railroad, might design shop buildings, roundhouses, or any other structure the railroad needed, not just stations. So it may be best to leave the category name as it is. 1234tomdorman (talk) 20:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Good enough for me, so leave it as is. Carptrash (talk) 00:57, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

The Ipswich Railway Workshops War Memorial being a good example of . . ..."Other." Carptrash (talk) 01:04, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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City of San Francisco train wreck

Hello, and nice to have another railfan on Wikipedia. Regarding this edit, [1], I've been hesitant to put GPS co-ordinates in this article for two reasons. First, I have been unable to find any source that lists exactly where it occurred beyond "Bridge number 4" and "about 1.5 miles east of Harney". Making it more of a mystery, as is visible in a satellite image of the area [2], the railroad tracks have been rebuilt. Scanning the canyon, it is visible there are 5 or 6 places where there used to be a handful of sharp curves, but the river was re-channeled to allow the tracks to be rebuilt with less sharp curves (here's another one farther east [3]). I have no idea if this track relocation happened before or after the 1939 accident, but likely after. If after, it's possible that bridge number 4 no longer exists today, or exists but is no longer the 4th bridge. The video you linked (good find BTW) supports the tracks were re-aligned after the accident, as at 4:15 it shows a tunnel visible on the unharmed Western Pacific track, but scanning Google Satellite there is no tunnel in the immediate vicinity of Harney today, (there are a few farther east in the canyon). That's not surprising, in the era of pick-axes and black powder tunnels were generally cheaper than mountain cuts, but today in the era of big earth movers cuts are generally cheaper than tunnels. Many smaller railroad tunnels have been daylighted when tracks have been rebuilt. A satellite scan of the canyon today reveals several sizable mountain cuts that could have been tunnels at one time, including these, which are in the right area[4][5].

But others have put GPS co-ordinates in the article and I haven't protested. But just so you know, this edit summary is not likely correct, the northernmost track is the former Western Pacific track, it is the southernmost track that is the former Southern Pacific track, and the Reno Gazette Journal article used as a source for this article is clear the accident happened on the SP track. See these two maps [6], this makes it clear the SP track was the southernmost track and this map [7] makes it clear that Harney is along the southernmost track, the equivalent siding for the northernmost track (WP track) is Cluro.

The video is a good find; a young, budding documentation. It has some problems, but is a good start and the director shows promise. Unfortunately it cannot be used as a source, as the movie is clearly using Wikipedia as a source (in fact there are entire paragraphs from this article that appear in the documentary verbatim), so to use it would be a circular reference.

I thank you for your efforts. I'm genuinely curious as to exactly where this accident happens and would be quite happy if someone solves the mystery. But wanted to point out there is an error in the logic used in your edit summary for moving the co-ordinates. Dave (talk) 20:38, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

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