20thtryer

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This user is no longer active on Wikipedia as of As April 2012.

CONSIDERING RETIREMENT

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Okay, I'm going to be completely honest here.

Hey, 20th. I'm going to be honest with you, here, so forgive me if this seems harsh, but it needs to be said. You're taking a very emotional, impassioned stance for someone who has never been the subject of administrative actions. The problem is that the types of questions you're asking, when they come from someone who as far as I can tell has no edits to articles themselves and no formal warnings or blocks, are typical of a user who has been blocked on another account and made a new one to vent. In other words, you've raised the suspicion in several of our hosts' minds (mine included) that this account is a sockpuppet. Among other things, our policy on multiple accounts says that users who are blocked are not allowed to make a new account to continue editing. Creating things like a meta-essay expounding on the admins who are bullies is not going to help allay these suspicions; quite the opposite, in fact. This is why we're advising you to not go through with it.

I'm trying to give you some advice here; this is not in any way a formal warning (if nothing else, I'm not an administrator myself, so I can't directly take action regardless of what happens). If you are a sockpuppet of a blocked editor, please please please stop using this account and request an unblock on your original account. If you are not a sockpuppet, you should drop this crusade against the admins right away and try to do something else on Wikipedia. There are a lot of articles that could use your passion! Try to funnel it into something creative, by improving articles, rather than something (self-)destructive, like raging about admins. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay 20th. I don't think this is bad. I think Writ Keeper just warned you that you stop boasting about admins and try to improve wikipedia. Admins can do anything,you know. But never an admin has thrested me. This thing feels like you are the opposition leader of the opposition against the admins. I will make a real form of what he said : He warned you that if you shout about admins again you will be blocked(or anything worse).

Resolve your problem through peace. Try to say good about admins and everything else in Wikipedia. Join some Wikiprojects whose works you know and improve and create articles.

                                            Always Remember
                  Help to build a better future for Wikipedia so it will be always better tommorow.

But, see. Even though I am a peacekeeper at Wikipedia,I am always prepared to defend my self. So if you think of something to boast about me, Beware!The admins will haunt you in your dreams! Take this slogan to the highest:Knowledge should be hailed!For it should reach the farthest aleins--Monareal (talk) 14:33, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand. What exactly are you trying to say.--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 14:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Now I mean that Please Stop shouting about admins and make or improve some aricles or just quit Wikipedia OK? If you want to boast about admins, this is not the place for you. --Monareal (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, 20thtryer. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, 20thtryer. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Nathan2055^talk 15:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).

Please stop bringing your drama to the Teahouse

Hi there. I'm going to ask that you please stop posting your concerns about bannings, blockings, and other related Wiki-drama on the Wikipedia Teahouse. It serves as a space for new editors, not as a space for people to randomly post dramatic concerns and unexplained issues at random. Thanks. Sarah (talk) 15:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I and others are still willing to help you, but let's do it on this talk page. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 15:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Someone has said "But, see. Even though I am a peacekeeper at Wikipedia,I am always prepared to defend my self. So if you think of something to boast about me, Beware!The admins will haunt you in your dreams! Take this slogan to the highest:Knowledge should be hailed!For it should reach the farthest aleins" and said If I don't stop something worse will happen to me then a block. This scares me. --20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:27, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

You 20th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Monareal (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, now would be a good time for cleanstart and total retirement.--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah!That would be a better choice for people like you!Join facebook and there boast about admins OK?--Monareal (talk) 15:33, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Mona, I mean this in the kindest of terms: please go away. You are not helping the situation at all.

20th, first: disregard what Mona says; Mona is (reportedly) a brand-new editor with an extremely inaccurate view of the blocking policy

Second, and I cannot stress this enough: please acknowledge your original account and go back to it if you can. Cleanstart will not help you with this. If you really did lose your password, then we might be able to help you with that, but starting yet another account will not help in the slightest. Please. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Monareal, please stop. Your comments aren't helping. Tryer, Monareal was wrong to say that...you are in no danger of a block and I'm sorry you felt that way. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 15:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I am not worried about blocks, I am worried about what he means by more then block.--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

That is really an empty threat. Given this comment, I encourage you to just ignore Monareal's comments. It will simplify things a lot. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 15:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank You Writ. It is Happy Death Aniversery for me today.Please block me.--Monareal (talk) 15:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I do not understand.20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:43, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Was that a threat!!!!!--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

20th Tryer: ignore Monareal. I would advise you to formally ask him/her to completely stay off your talk page for future reference. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 15:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Can he trace my physical location--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:51, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Check the recent wiki-help IRC transcript. You will soon understand my concern.--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

My two cents that I'm sure won't help the situation: I think Monareal and 20thtryer are the same people. Sarah (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Seriously! But since things are really going this badly, issue an interaction ban. If you really think we are the same people, block Monareal's ip and I will post a comment with my own ip!--20th Tryer ⚡✀ 15:57, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Please don't revert my edits on the Teahouse page

There is an archive, and you can view it by viewing the history of the Teahouse Q&A page and comparing old versions. Thanks. Sarah (talk) 15:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)