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Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Medicine (also known as WPMED).

We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of medical articles here on Wikipedia. I noticed that you are interested in editing medical articles, such as your edits to the article Zefr; it's great to have a new editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing Wikipedia articles are:

• Thanks for coming aboard! We always appreciate a new editor. Feel free to leave us a message at any time on our talk page. If you are interested in joining the project yourself, there is a participant list where you can sign up. Please leave a message on the WPMED talk page if you have any problems, suggestions, would like review of an article, need suggestions for articles to edit, or would like some collaboration when editing!
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Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any questions. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages! Zefr (talk) 14:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Vitamin B12 edits

On my talk page, you said: Hello! I am fairly a beginner at editing Wikipedia, so please keep that in mind. In spite of that, I did thorough research and thought hard about what I wrote. Could you please - Explain the meaning of "ce" in your edit summary? - Tell me why my added references 15 and 16 were a problem? (I am asking genuinely, just trying to understand) - Take another look at what the first paragraph of the Definition section is? I feel like it is a contradictory and confusing definition, because a thing can't both be a set and an element of that set at the same time.

Referring to this edit;

1. "ce" is an editor's note for copyediting.

2. a) the MedlinePlus source, although fine, is redundant with the more extensive source from ODS (Medline and ODS are both from the US National Institutes of Health). b) the coordination complex sentence and source is an outlier of infomation on vitamin B12, and seems offtopic from the main vitamin discussion. c) the link you provided from ScienceDirect doesn't help the encyclopedia user to find the information being cited, but rather is just a listing of publications on vitamin B12. Try to use single, comprehensive sources like the ODS.

3. when editing medical content, think of the user attempting to gain an understanding of potentially complex information, and write for the common user.

4. the Definition section could be better if it were made simpler and clearer for the general user (not for biochemists or medical experts, but for non-scientists). Vitamin B12 is a complex compound to understand, and its simple description has been elusive for years in this article. We should work from the ODS source to make this clearer. Zefr (talk) 14:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

@Zefr Thank you very much for your detailed and helpful answer, I will research Wikipedia basics more in depth and take a look at the article talk page. I will also remember your general advice.

2.b): Agreed (but it wasn't put in there by me) 2.c) I specified the section in the citation, but I only now see you can scroll further down.

4. I see, I will keep that in mind.

Thank you again. 23d49h24 (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. Note that the vitamin B12 article has WP:GA status, i.e., it has undergone substantial editing and confirmation by senior editors, particularly David notMD who guided the process. New topics for change should be discussed on the article talk page. Good luck. Zefr (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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