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You should really create an WP:ACCOUNT. It's obvious you are 1 person using multiple IPs. LibStar (talk) 02:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The IP address who added governance is mostly certainly not me, nor am I the one who added hate speech on talk page. You need to do something about Daceyvillain however as he is not editing the Eastern Suburbs page for the better and he's being destructive. I can see from all the arguing and debating it seemed the page had reached a factual compromise of the Eastern Suburbs encompassing the entire region but then acknowledging the different areas within. Daceyvillain still isn't happy until he pushes his own message across. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 02:52, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

That's exactly what I mean, I can't tell if it's one or several people. Please create an WP:ACCOUNT to continue proper discussion. You aren't happy until you push your own message across. LibStar (talk) 02:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I want this page to be detailed and factual just like everyone else. Daceyvillain removing information because he doesn't like it and believes it should be omitted isn't constructive in any way. It doesn't seem like your an editor taking sides and I think you want accuracy too. From the edits you've made on the page you're happy to acknowledge the different sub-regions of the Eastern Suburbs because you know they're sourced and factual. I don't see why now you'd defend another editor who isn't being constructive even if you don't like anon IPs having a say. The page should be reverted to the way it was after the governance section was added. Daceyvillain ever since seeing one more reference to the 'south-eastern suburbs' has now simply gone haywire. It's obvious he's biased to the matter at hand because based on his account name he's from the south-east and has a superiority complex not liking his own area being distinguished into a different category than that of the Waverley and Woollahra Council neighbourhoods of the eastern suburbs. I on the other hand am from the south-east and I don't believe either area is better than the other they're just different neighbourhoods of Sydney's east, there's nothing wrong with that. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 03:05, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Please create an WP:ACCOUNT. I'm not sure why you are reluctant to. LibStar (talk) 03:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Maybe because they don't want to login to a shared computer at The Good Guys? Daceyvillain (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

To be clear: I added information (postcodes), and removed a lot of redundant information (repeated names of suburbs) which was being used to try to divide the Eastern Suburbs into sub-regions, which are not generally recognised by government documents and maps, and which were using contentious naming conventions ("traditional", "upper", ...). Daceyvillain (talk) 03:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Once again the Eastern Suburbs page had reached a definitive factual equilibrium after the governance section had been added. It acknowledged the entire region with the well cited accurate sub-region distinctions that were ABS official, there was nothing wrong with it. However because there was one more reference to the 'south-eastern suburbs' added to the page, Daceyvillain lost his self control and felt the need to omit any reference to sub-regions altogether, a concept Daceyvillain has shown strong disdain towards from the start which has not been necessary nor constructive. His biased opinion has not made this page any better and never will. Libstar should be mediating this and taking the side of citations and facts but unfortunately it seems Wikipedia editors play politics defending other editors being destructive over anon IPs being constructive. This entire ordeal regarding the Eastern Suburbs page has made me lose faith in much of Wikipedia's information and reliability altogether. I could only hope another editor comes along and sees this entirely unnecessary and painful ordeal all based off one Wikipedia editors opinion. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 03:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Again avoiding the question of creating an account. LibStar (talk) 03:28, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Would you please stop forum shopping. The issue with Darcyvillian is already being discussed at ANI. I also suggest you comment there why you refuse to create an account. LibStar (talk) 05:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I must reach out to other forums who can mediate this nonsense because unfortunately the issue regarding Daceyvillain and his vandalism of the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) is not being discussed as both you and he keep throwing the attention back on the mysterious anon IPs whom you both have concluded without evidence is the same person. The issue is the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) page losing accurate, cited information. Please discuss the page at hand rather than conspiring against editors, it's unprofessional. I want factual information conveyed, as I'm sure you do too. I don't wish to make an account because I don't feel both you and Daceyvillain are doing things to Wikipedia's benefit and instead are choosing to slander and attack a contributing editor who isn't doing anything wrong. If I were to create an account how would this situation change? I've been adding to the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) page, as have you LibStar, as have the other IPs. Daceyvillain is subtracting to push his own opinion and this should not be allowed. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

oh gee. You and your various other IPs as you (because this IP only started editing today) have been pushing the concept of South Eastern Sydney for months, especially since the South Eastern Sydney article got deleted. Secondly, your claim that various IPs are just different people is unfounded, as per WP:DUCK. It's all a big push to get south eastern Sydney back into Wikipedia. LibStar (talk) 06:36, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I just want accuracy, please understand this. I'd rather Wikipedia be informative and detailed rather than vague which is how Daceyvillain would rather the Eastern Suburbs article to be. Based off of his tirade and things he's mentioned about class it seems like he feels his area being referred to as 'south-east' is demoting or degrading it and he feels like his area 'deserves' to be included within the 'Eastern Suburbs' rather than divided from it. From the start I put on the South-Eastern Sydney page that it is a region within the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney, I've never said it isn't within Sydney's East.

Once again I'm not the other IPs but I guess it doesn't really matter either way if you guys think I am. You've clearly chosen Daceyvillain's side regardless if other people in the community come forward and agree with the sub-regions or not. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 06:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

If you're not other IPs how come you only started editing only today? The real reason for not creating an account is to avoid scrutiny and detection. I'm proposing that anon IPs be banned from editing Eastern Suburbs page. LibStar (talk) 06:50, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The Eastern Suburbs article is now protected. If you created an account you would be able to edit the article after a few days. LibStar (talk) 10:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I may do so in the future but honestly the ordeal with this article hasn't been good for me and I think I just need to let it go and move on. Thank you for letting me know. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 12:43, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

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