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Happy editing! -- Luk ^talk 23:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you, Luk 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 01:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Jerry Lorenzo

Jerry Lorenzo was not born in Evansville, Indiana. Multiple sources support existing text of Sacramento, California. Your edits are suspect after that. You have deleted almost the entire article. Clearly many of the paragraphs are sourced and cannot be copyright violations. If there are such, you should identify them specifically. Donner60 (talk) 03:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• Almost every recently added sentence was copied from its sources--there are dozens. This is why I've requested help from administrators. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • However, if you find my edits suspect, please bring this to ANI. I'm so tired of trying to remove copied and promotional content and getting pushback from trigger-happy rollback users. And warnings to boot. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry for my earlier rollback. You're quite right, almost all of these additions have been basically directly copied. I'm not totally sure how to move forward with this article, owing to my relative inexperience, but I think admin intervention seems wise. Sorry again, and will be more careful when using rollback. Swadge2 (talk) 04:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• I appreciate it, Swadge2. I've been doing this for over 15 years, and I take time to check for copied content, and explain the edits clearly, and I still get run over like a squirrel on the interstate. It means a lot to me that you went back and took the time to look. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 04:08, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I've asked for help at my usual IP talk page [1]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 04:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I have rolled back your massive deletion again, but am not adding a warning because you are insistent on your position that it is due to copyright violations. I still think that you are deleting material that is biographical and not a copyright violation along with your deletion. I will now give you the benefit of the doubt on copyright violations and not revert your further edits. I urge you to check on the birthplace change and to review the text to see whether there are biographical facts that should be retained. Donner60 (talk) 04:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I see that you have also indicated on the other page that this is also a problem of paid editing. That sheds a different light on it and is further in support of your edits. My withdrawal from this is further justified. You seem to be generally justified in your approach to this. I am sorry for the interference when the full facts were not evident to me. Donner60 (talk) 04:21, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Donner, I'm tired. you can explain at ANI, where I didn't mention you, merely the original editor. What a mess over doing the right thing. Please leave me alone. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 04:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I have identified myself at ANI with a brief explanation and have supported your request. Thank you for not naming me. I made the post at ANI before I saw your message here about it. Again, I apologize and have tried to do my best to correct the situation not just by posts here but at ANI. That should be enough to end my involvement and posts here. Donner60 (talk) 04:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Who's tired??? Drmies (talk) 02:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Drmies, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:40, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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