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Formatting all the All-Australian teams

@4TheWynne: Let's sort this out. I'm trying to make these articles more consistent and easier to read, but you're obviously wanting to do so in a different way from me. As for the "blanket rule" that doesn't exist, I presume you're not familiar with how things are done on other sporting pages here. Please let me finishing editing now because it will enable all past, present and future All-Australian articles to remain as consistent as possible. — 29cwcst (talk) 11:45, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm very much familiar with "how things are done on other sporting pages here" – I don't understand why you would choose to link to the above discussion in presuming otherwise, as all it demonstrates is that you might actually be the one who's unsure. The "blanket rule" I was referring to wasn't to do with 0–9, but beyond that (I literally said "There is no blanket rule stating that any number above nine must be in numeral form") – per MOS:NUMBER: "Integers greater than nine expressible in one or two words may be expressed either in numerals or in words (16 or sixteen, 84 or eighty-four, 200 or two hundred)". I tend to spell out 0–12 (that's what I was always taught at school, if you were curious as to why) as, per what I've said above, there's no blanket rule that I can't, and given numbers in that particular section don't tend to go much higher than twelve, I figured it would be better to be consistent than go with eight, nine, 10, 11, etc. within the same section.

I understand that you're trying to create a consistent formatting/layout for the All-Australian articles, which is great, but there are a couple of issues (other than the one that you've mentioned). The main one is that the "final team" part is normally too big to not be its own subsection (hence why I use the "Final team" subheader). A section shouldn't consist of a header, a paragraph and table, and then a subheader followed by another paragraph and table; in most cases, though, both parts are big enough that they can be their own sections (as opposed to two subsections within the one section under the "Team" header). The events should really be presented in chronological order and the initial squad should come first (which was already the case at some of the articles before you changed them), which I'll look to change for all of them at some point. Removing whitespace from a table also isn't something that should come under the copy-pasted edit summary "Minor page improvements", but that's a separate issue (plus edit summaries are something that's already been discussed with you and I'm sure it isn't something that you want to go into again).

In short, I've added this to my to-do list, so I'll be cleaning up all of the relevant articles as soon as I get a chance. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 07:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@4TheWynne: Just let me know how you would like these articles to look:

• Numbers from 0–12 spelled out
• Ensuring that events are presented in chronological order
• Final team subheader

What else? I removed the spacing from the table displaying the team because that's how it's formatted for the 2007–18 All-Australian teams. It's much easier to read in editing mode, so why not keep it like such and maintain consistency? Also, am I not supposed to keep my edit summaries brief? You're more than welcome to question me about them here. As for the example I used, I just wanted you to see where Fyunck(click) mentioned that numbers up to ten should always be spelled out. However, as Fyunck(click) mentioned directly afterwards, an exception can be made when giving scores or rankings. — 29cwcst (talk) 04:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@4TheWynne:@29cwcst:I'm not up on the all-Australian team articles you're talking about. I think standard MOS is in prose always spell out numbers one through nine. So three sets, five tennis balls, seven line judges. You don't use the set score of six-three.... it would be 6-3. After nine it's depends on the situation. I would usually see ten, but not as often do I see eleven. If every number in a conversation goes no higher than twelve then I would probably spell them all for consistency. However you also try to be consistent in a sentence. I bought three apples and seventeen pears. I sold 32 tickets but Sheila only sold 5. I think the basic thing is scores (17-6) and rankings (No. 8) get numbers. Normal prose gets the numbers spelled out (she won in two sets) up to nine. That's all I have on this. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

All-Australian team articles

@4TheWynne: How are you going with all the All-Australian articles? If you could make a start on the 2007 side or let me know what you want done in regards to formatting, then I personally have no problem doing the rest myself. Either way though, enjoy the Grand Final tonight. — 29cwcst (talk) 00:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I've just been (slowly) doing the templates first, as I've been quite busy over the last couple of weeks and haven't had a lot of time to work on them, but I'll be able to finish off the templates and work on the articles this week, as I have a lot more time. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 23:30, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

@4TheWynne: I still plan on making a few minor edits here and there, but I've finally finished arranging the All-Australian teams chronologically. Happy New Year! — 29cwcst (talk) 02:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Making certain edits to UFC event articles

@Cassiopeia: I plan on making the following edits to all UFC event articles that have taken place at the UFC Apex facility or on Fight Island, including 2020 in UFC:

• Correcting the spelling of UFC APEX to UFC Apex
• Adding the United States/UAE portals to each respective UFC event article
• Removing any aforementioned links
• Using acronyms and/or initials upon being mentioned

If you object to me making these edits and would simply revert them, please let me know here. — 29cwcst (talk) 00:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi 29cwcst, Good day, can you pls elaborate a little more on removing aforementioned EL pls? Thank you. Cassiopeia^(talk) 08:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia: If links to certain pages are mentioned more than once within the text of an article, then I will remove them because that appears to be the established norm here. — 29cwcst (talk) 05:10, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi 29cwcst, Thanks for explaining. Go ahead as per your planning above. thank you for your contribution in advance. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia^(talk) 05:15, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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A couple of questions...

@Cassiopeia: I've almost finished making all the necessary edits to recent UFC event articles, but would also like to ask you these questions:

1. Unless it was merely an honest mistake, why did you remove the United States portal from UFC Fight Night: Hall vs. Silva?
2. UFC on ESPN 18: Blaydes vs. Lewis and UFC on ESPN 19: Hermansson vs. Holland are both false redirects, so could we delete them now?

I'm sorry it's taken me so long, but I got a new job recently and haven't had much spare time on my hands. — 29cwcst (talk) 23:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi 29cwcst, Good day.

(1) UFC Fight Night: Hall vs. Silva - I believe you meant this edit of mine. If the subject/event is a specific about United States and not its states, then we put US portal (country name as the portal just like other subject/event of a specific country); however, if it is the subject/event is specific to one of the US's state then we put the portal name as per the state. No other countries besides US has its own states portals.

(2) You could request for technical deletion of the redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion.

You have been a great help at late. Congrats on your new job. Have a wonderful holiday. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia^(talk) 05:20, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia: Will do and likewise, but does this mean I should change the portals for the other UFC Vegas articles as well? If not, then I hope you will allow me to add the United States portal back. — 29cwcst (talk) 07:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi 29cwcst, The portal should change/add to the associated state on all the UFC events that held in United Sates. Stay safe and well. Cassiopeia^(talk) 20:34, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia: Merry Christmas and thanks for clarifying xD! — 29cwcst (talk) 20:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy holidays

File:Christmas tree decorations 5.jpg	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!
	Hello 29cwcst, Wishing you a joyous holiday season and a happy and peaceful New Year. Thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Happy editing. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia(talk) 23:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Because there are thousands of of tennis articles

When it was brought to Tennis Project attention by administrators and other editors that readers didn't even know what sport an article was talking about, we listened and started making changes. Each articles should be treated as if it's the only one a reader will see. We finished most of the majors and I try to catch events as they happen. Many are really bad with a first sentence that says who isn't playing rather than the most important topic of what the event is and who won it. I'm sorry if I haven't fixed enough as fast as you'd like... I can only do so many. But thanks for helping out. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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