Not only that, you are constantly deleting two things without merit, one the words highly controversial, which is 100% true, and the other mention of the Bangui criteria which help explain his point. If you continue to do this you are engaging in censorship and I have to wonder why that is. The Bangui criteria were demonstrably different to how things were done in other places, such as the USA, Canada and UK, where for purposes of insurances the amount of T Cells people had would trigger insurance in the USA, whereas this wasn't even a criteria in Canada. The interview about Bangui 100% confirms his point people were treated differently. If that doesn't sit well with you, that is your problem. That happened and there is a vast amount of argument the criteria caused a massive amount of suffering equal to any people not taking AZT/antivirals, a highly dangerous drug. It has been argued by multiple people that had normal treatment not been withdrawn from people quite possibly not "AIDs" patients, or even if they were, still continuing to give care, would have had beneficial effects for their quality of life and perhaps helped them survive their ailments like TB. The fact of the matter is, AIDs changed in what it was supposed to be on multiple occasions, so for you to say "it is proven HIV causes AIDS" is not accurate, because AIDs changed as a definition on multiple occasions, meaning HIV did not cause some of the things AIDs at one point was assumed to be. It is also disingenuous, because there has never been a trial to check what happens to people if they take a large amount of drugs, do not sleep properly for over a year, have thousands of sexual partners and all the above at once, etc etc, because it would be fundamentally unethical. Therefore no one can disprove his supposition that in many cases, what was manifested wasn't a large part due to lifestyle. Not all people who had HIV positive tests had AIDs or do. From my understanding of your critique, I don't believe you have actually read Duesberg's book/work and fully understood his points. If you did, I don't think you would treat him the way you are.
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