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Nomination of The Bierton Crisis for deletion

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I am not sure how to go ahead here are my additions. Please give feedback.

The Bierton Crisis was first published as a private document in 1984. This book is a true and accurate account giving the reasons for the author's secession from the Bierton Strict and Particular Baptist church in 1984. The Bierton Strict and Particular Baptist chapel is listed as a monument and was closed for worship, in December 2002 and The Association of Grace Baptist Churches became responsible for the sale of the Bierton Baptist Chapel in 2006. This book was published, on 16 January 2012, by the sole remaining member of the church and explains the difficulties the church experienced in those days. ISBN 978-0-9539473-4-8. (Note for Wikipedia reviews) The Bierton Crisis, is published under ISNB 9780953947348 and held at Bodleian Library Oxford University, The Cambridge University Library, National Library of Scotland, National Library of Wales and Trinity College Dublin in accordance with Legal Deposit libraries Act 2003 or Irish Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000.

519Clarke (talk) 07:08, 25 October 2014 (UTC) 519Clarke (talk) 07:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

• It is a book published in the UK - why on earth are you telling us that it has been deposited in the usual places? Do you think it adds even the tiniest shred of notability to the subject? Please answer. And why was it not deposited in Cambridge University Library? Oops, I can't read!

Another example of your vanity. Has any reliable source reviewed your book? Has any reliable source written independently about this so called crisis? I thought not. So it does not qualify for Wikipedia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:28, 25 October 2014 (UTC) updated 21:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

• I have reverted your last edit because it was applied in such an untidy manner that it was impossible to tell who was speaking. Please repeat your comments: starting on a new line below this message and starting each paragraph with a colon : — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bierton Strict and Particular Baptist Society

Hello 519Clarke,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Bierton Strict and Particular Baptist Society for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Blackguard 02:32, 24 October 2014 (UTC) I am new to Wiki and am still trying to write an article. I would like to come back to this article when I know how to do things

David Clarke 15:04, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Trojan Horse International (TULIP) Phils. Incorporated

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Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists was tagged for deletion for a lack of strict and particular adherence to Wikipedia standards, in particular far too much bold and, much more importantly, a total lack of independent references. I have restored it to draft:Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists. Note that Gospel Standard is probably not quite the link you intended and, among your several entries, a proper article about the Association of Grace Baptist Churches would be welcomed. Needless to say, the article is about the church - there should be a minimum of reference to your book. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

We only need one article on this subject and I prefer the version at draft:Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists. The only useful thing in your recent edits was the link to Bucks CC which I have used. We certainly do not need the Land Registry number. But your edits can be found in the history of the draft if you need them. Please confine discussion to this page and to the talk page of the draft - do not scatter your comments in other random places. If you want further help you are allowed to phone me - numbers on my home page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:13, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

• Dear Haworth, I have tried on two occasions to call you on the telephone but without success. I simple get an answer machine. 07411990007. David Clarke 05:46, 10 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 519Clarke (talk • contribs)

I suggest you go back to my home page and actually read the notes beside each phone number - are they clear and comprehensible? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Ecclesiastes 1:2

I do not think you have anything to offer to Wikipedia but I challenge you to prove me wrong thus:

• expand Draft:Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists with details about the church's history before 1974
• create a decent article to replace the deleted stuff at Association of Grace Baptist Churches
• give us more information about what Strict and Particular Baptists believe by improving Gospel Standard and Reformed Baptists#Strict Baptists. OK, I realise that you are considered to be error but I am sure you could still provide us with something useful.

— RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:04, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

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Biblid

Pleased advize on this item that I wished to add to New Bilibid Prison

May be I should write an article on Red Dizon. He is just one of many notable men I wish to write about who are in New Bilibid Prison. The Item on New Bilibid Prison list a few men, I just simple added on more but this was removed. I am not sure why.

David Clarke 21:24, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

The book you cite as a source is not reliable by Wikipedia's standards; it's not an indication that the prisoners whose testimonies it recounts are notable. Furthermore, the content you wrote read rather promotional. Huon (talk) 00:56, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I have added another notable Inmate Albert Wilson. Please advise if my references are acceptable and that he qualifies for inclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 519Clarke (talk • contribs)

Misplaced

Copied from Talk:Bierton Strict and Particular Baptist Society where no-one would ever see it.

I would like to complete this article but I am having difficulties doing thing correctly. I have all the information needed make a good article but I seem to get things wrong every time. I will come back to this when I get some success on some of the other article I have tried to write. Some one has put up and article Converted on LSD that I would like to contribute too . May be once I get used to doing one thing correct I can come back this and then go on to the the others like Trojan Warriors, The Bierton Crisis.

I have tried to edit the article New Bilibid Prion but my edits have been removed with not reason given. I wish I knew what I am doing wrong. David Clarke 17:00, 7 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 519Clarke (talk • contribs)

To show that those organizations are notable enough for Wikipedia articles you'll have to provide reliable independent sources that cover them in some detail. The most I've seen so far were some local newspapers in the US that wrote about you; I rather doubt that's enough. You may also want to check out our guideline on conflicts of interest; writing about your own organizations is not a good idea since it's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view when doing so. Huon (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Please give me the references that you have found as I was unaware they existed. I have access tho the churched trusst deed the contains all its history . It is lodged with the Land Registry in the UK. WIll this be of any help ? David Clarke 05:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 519Clarke (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry; I had found the references with a Google search, but I don't quite remember the exact search terms any more. On looking again I found this article about the death of your brother, and there may have been another one of similar quality which I can't find again. As I said, I doubt that's enough. The church trust deed would not be considered third-party coverage of either you or of the church and will not be of any help. Huon (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

• What an utter cop-out - asking someone else to provide references! If you want the article to stick, you should find the references. Also, how long is it going to be before you learn to sign talk page comments with ~~~~ ? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I am a very slow learner and this is all new to me. Any help is appreciated and guidance welcomed David Clarke 15:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Huon Thank you for the reference that helped me understand about how things work. The article in question is Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists (or Society) and when you said you had found a reference to me, in the US, is was mystified thinking that you meant Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists and not me personally,or and article for me, as I was unaware any article had been written about Bierton Strict and Particular Baptists. That is why I asked for the reference. I have many reference that could be used but I am new to Wiki and just learning how to submitted items. I have submitted photos that have been rejected because the are images of News paper articles and they have been rejected as they are now my work. I have also had my photos rejected for the same reason when in fact they are all my own work. This creates frustration and I feel i need help David Clarke 14:52, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

The problem with photos is that we need some evidence that the copyright holder has released them under a free license that allows everybody to re-use and modify them for any purpose, including commercial purposes - otherwise we'd be open to copyright violations. I don't think newspapers commonly release their articles under such licenses; thus photos of newspaper articles are not acceptable. Given that practically all images you have uploaded so far, not just the newspaper photos, have been problematic, other editors have become cautious about simply accepting your claims.

Regarding the newspapers, you shouldn't photograph them but cite them (see WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily cite print sources); provide enough detail to allow our readers to look up the newspaper in a library archive: Name of the newspaper, the exact publication date, page number, title of the article, author, ... Huon (talk) 16:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Trojan Horse International (TULIP) Phils. Incorporated

Hello 519Clarke,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Trojan Horse International (TULIP) Phils. Incorporated for deletion, because it seems to be a test. Did you know that the Wikipedia Sandbox is available for testing out edits?

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Trivialist (talk) 16:01, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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David Clarke 12:28, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Why sign

Why do you feel it necessary to apply a non-signature, eg. "David Clarke 08:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)" every time you edit your vanity page? Please reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

• I do not understand what a none signature is . Please explain what you mean by vanity page and which page are you referring too. How do I reply to RHaworth? — 213.104.226.208 (talk) 06:50, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

As I say, a non-signature is for example "David Clarke 07:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)". It resembles a proper wiki signature but it is not one because a proper wiki signature contains links to the user page, the user talk page or the contribs history - preferably all three. Your vanity page is Draft:David Clarke (author) - one of the worst cases of self-obsession / vanity that I have ever seen. This is the right place for your reply. Now please answer my question: why do you apply these non-signatures? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:15, 26 November 2014 (UTC) I am still not sure what a none signature is. I sign with the four tide marks, as instructed, as I assume in doing so my log in name is automatically attached as my signature.

If I am required to add my log in name along with four tide marks I was unaware. It seems to me that to add 519Clarke along with four tide marks to each change is very inefficient method of editing. I am just not familiar with the policies. Also please answer my question what do you mean by vanity for we are told: Ecclesiastes 1

1 Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

Ecclesiastes 1 9 What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 1 18 For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

Ecclesiastes 12:12  And further, my son, by these words be admonished: of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness to the flesh.

How are you using the word. I am in the dark as to how you use the word. Please confirm that I have sighed out or in right. 213.104.226.208 (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2014 (UTC)Draft:David Clarke (author) 213.104.226.208 (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2014 (UTC) 213.104.226.208 (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)519Clarke213.104.226.208 (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

You appear to be editing whilst logged out which is why the 4 tildes do not produce the required signature. Theroadislong (talk) 15:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Please I need Help

I have been criticize for not sighing out by means of tide marks . Now criticized for a non signature .

I have found no information. or give an explanation, as to how to edit an article listed as Draft:David Clarke (author) and sign out in an acceptable manor. I have only been criticized for not doing it, or doing it wrong and any instructions that I have been given are not been clear, at all. Please bare in mind that I am new to editing and writing articles and what may be straight forward to some one used to the commands, rules and feature in the editing package is and can be very daunting to the like of me who at very best am Dyslexic.

How so sign out ?????? David Clarke 16:18, 26 November 2014 (UTC)Draft:David Clarke (author) 519Clarke David Clarke 16:18, 26 November 2014 (UTC) ????

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Does this help? Theroadislong (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes Thank you. This is what I had been doing after I was criticized for not signing out. Now recently I have been asked why do you apply these non-signatures? — RHaworth (talk · contribs)

All I am aware of it that I have been using the four tide mark when signing out from editing an article do i need to add anything like Draft:David Clarke (Author)

When editing a article am I so sign out in any particular way because that is what I have not been doing only the four tides David Clarke 16:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

The purpose of signatures is to easily keep track of who said what in discussions. Thus you should sign only edits to talk pages (or other places of discussion within Wikipedia), not edits to articles. You seem to have customized your signature in the preferences so that it no longer links to your user page, user talk page or contributions. Such a link is required (see WP:SIGLINK for details). You can add more than one such link (as RHaworth has done), but you should have at least one. Huon (talk) 23:17, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I had no idea what I was doing when filing in detail to the Preferences page so i have gone and reset this back to default, in order to start again. I now need to know how to sign out of an Article that I am preparing in the sand box. Which is Draft: David Clarke (Author. I also need to know how not to apply a none signature. My log in name is 519Clarke. I understand that 4 tide waves is a sign out after edition a talk page but I do not know how to sigh out after editing the article in the Sandbox. Please advise. David Clarke 00:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Articles should not be signed at all. Unlike talk page comments, articles are collaborative efforts, and we cannot have every editor sign them. Huon (talk) 01:01, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

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What has happened to my Draft Article Converted on LSD ? I created an article under title Converted on LSD some week ago. An editor noted, in green, that it had been checked out ???. When I went to update it today I could not find it so I stared a new article in the Sandbox, as suggested by the Wizard, I used the same title. I worked on it all day uploaded some pictures, on the commons site, but two were wrong and could not remove them- so I have left them even after trying to upload the correct ones. I then click the tab to submit the draft for consideration but was redirected and eventually told it could not be moved

I don't know what has happened but I am informed it may take several week to review but am not sure if it has joined the cue

Please advise.

David Clarke 16:04, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I was informed 30/12/2014 by DragonflySixtyseven that my Article Draft: Converted on LSD was paroled but I cannot find out what this means. Please advise. David Clarke 10:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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I would like to get help in obtaining suitable references

David Clarke 17:36, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I have had another go. please tell me if I am going in the right direction Shii Article Draft:Converted on LSD David Clarke 16:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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My article was deleted due what was though a breach of copyright. I just do not know how to respond so I have written a response on the Draft: Converted on LSD. I would be very grateful for any help you are able to give to direct me on the right path.

I have also asked that an part that appears to be promotional that it be pointed out so that it can be removed. A general assertion is not helpful but a specific indication would be helpful

David Clarke 11:33, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Promotional editing

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC) For "JamesBWatson" James please cite an example, from the text, what is considered to be promotional material so I can amend it. I am rather new to this and have had many tries seeking to write articles but with no success as yet. I have also been pulled up for using material that is allegedly copy right. The book I cite clearly says "copy all you like" on the printed imprint page, so I am seeking help on this to. Do you think it means I must write what I write in my own words and seek permission from the publisher to do so ? David Clarke 18:36, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Are you honestly suggesting that you did not write the page with the intention of publicising your experience, and telling the world the "good news"? If you didn't, then I really don't know where to start explaining to you, because that is the way it reads to me, from start to finish; "what is considered to be promotional material" is the whole of it. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Converted on LSD (February 5)

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LukeSurl ^{t c} 15:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that if the the book was listed with Wikipedia under a Creative Commons license I could make citations from it without a problem. ?

David Clarke 16:32, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

• I am not convinced by what LukeSurl has written. I would have thought that "copy all you like" would be a pretty clear indication of releasing the content into the public domain. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

The publication is in the UK so what form of certification would one need, from the publisher to make the citation acceptable. Is this where the reams of documentation come is ? Also is it possible to point out precisely, by giving an example, of one set of words that indicates the bias of the site neutral point of view and if not neutral and does that mean any thing quoted from it , even if not published on that site but another, the citation is no use. Please also be patient with me, how can identify which web site is acceptable for a citation ?

David Clarke 17:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you but I find it just too difficult to proceed.

213.104.226.208 (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC) David Clarke 213.104.226.208 (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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Pakistan

I am amused to see that you went out to Pakistan and cloned your church there: Christchurch Bierton particular baptists pakistan. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I can keep you informed if you like.My attempts to write any qualifying Articles on Wikipedia failed so I gave up in the end. How ever you mat be able to help we are using a free sit to publish our work but are limited to 25 publications- here take a look- Issuu- Can you tell me if Wikipedia provide a facility to publish materials and make them available in PDF format so that they may be downloaded to places in Pakistan via the internet. I forget how to sign out --David Clarke 19:13, 2 May 2016 (UTC) You may find this amusing too Borstal Boy Preaches in Pakistan.--David Clarke 19:57, 2 May 2016 (UTC)