71.255.236.211

July 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at Eye shadow. Here is Wikipedia's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia! This edit summary is unacceptable. Please stop. ZimZalaBim ^talk 14:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Good faith was assumed, until it was proven otherwise. Not only did he disagree with a statement which has been left unchallenged for over 10 years, he outright deleted it due to his own personal misunderstanding of the issue without any reference or citation to do so. He just subjectively “thinks” it’s wrong. And he thinks that’s good enough of a stance to bully his way into an edit. And when I restored his vandalism, he deleted it again. I am sure you will agree that kind of a forced bullying edit summary is unacceptable and unwelcome on Wikipedia. As a woman, I know far more about why we use makeup than he does. I know what we are trying to duplicate with eye shadow. Many of us really admire women who have been blessed with naturally shiny eyelids, and wish to God we all had the same, but we do not, so we try to replicate that look. It’s a bit difficult to accurately match the look because it can end up looking watery or too glossy. It is not the same thing as periorbital darkening either. That is a condition leaving ugly dark circles around our eyes that we do not like because it makes us look like old tired women. In fact, most of of us who have that condition struggle very hard with different types of makeup and concealers to get rid of that look. On the other hand, many of us seriously wish we had glossier shiny eyelids like our friends. And that nautral eyelid pigmentation look can sometimes glossy, silverish, or pinkish stone. It tends to be more present and younger women, and we like to always look younger. I admit at first I may have been a bit overboard with insults; however, you should be aware women have been historically denied their own opinions and it is extremely frustrating to be forced to listen to men explain to us why we are wrong about female things we just know as women and suppress our knowledge. You would think that someone who does not wear makeup would understand that, but clearly his ego got the best of him and he wouldn’t accept being wrong. That is why I am restoring the article back to the original form. 71.255.236.211 (talk) 10:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for the previous long winded answer, but I hope it helps clarify how I feel. There are just some things women know about better than men, and that includes something we use on a daily, sometimes hourly, regularly and something that they almost never use. 71.255.236.211 (talk) 10:54, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi 71.255.236.211! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Eye shadow several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Eye shadow, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. ZimZalaBim ^talk 22:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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