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'Article Name change' response

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87.191.194.117 (talk) 15:09, 20 June 2017 (UTC) Hello,

this is to answer the "solved" answer to my quesiton on Online Educa wiki page. Your "solved answer": I'm sorry, but I don't see that the OEB meets Wikipedia's standards for inclusion, neither the general notability guideline or more specialized guielines for organizations or events. There's extremely little media coverage, next to none in mainstream publications, and the article does not cite a single reliable third-party source. Thus I'll propose the article for deletion. If the article could be improved enough to show that the conference is notable (and my searches found no indication of that), then the title should be whatever it is most commonly referred to in independent sources. If that most common name is "OEB", we would need to disambiguate and make it something like "OEB (conference)". Huon (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, but I do not belive the lack of third party support is correct at all. Our conference is 22 years old and is still one of the leading in the edtech and ICT indsustry. We are constantly convered by various media, usually peaking around Nov-January when the event takes place. Some press coverage can be found here https://oeb.global/media/press/press-releases and a singular simple example from BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38289079. More articles constantly published about the event https://oeb-insights.com/ or a simple Google News search https://www.google.de/search?q=oeb+conference&oq=oeb+conference&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j0l2.2567j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=oeb+conference&safe=off&tbm=nws.

Could the name now be changed to OEB (conference) or is this not possible?

Kind regards, Berit

Berit, I see that, while the article title is Online Educa Berlin, the first sentence reads: "OEB (formerly Online Educa Berlin)..." I know it seems odd, but article names often remain the same through the reorganizations and renamings of the institutions to which they refer. That's because we are trying to make it as easy as possible for readers to search for articles and readers often continue to use an "old" name for a time. That all said, Huon's concern remains. The standard on notability asks for three things: coverage must be significant (that is, more than just a paragraph or two or a simple meeting listing) in independent sources (ones not connected to the organization itself or a member or advocate) that are reliable (ones that demonstrate journalistic selectivity and judgment). The BBC article, for example, easily counts as independent and reliable but unfortunately is not significantly about OEB. It is really about educational technology in general, and OEB gets a passing mention at very nearly the end of the article. The other offered links are not really independent, as you've linked mostly to your own website and press releases. I know this is not the answer you are looking for, but it is the most honest one I can give you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

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