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You have an overdue training assignment.

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Please complete the assigned training modules. --TrudiJ (talk) 00:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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When creating a new section at a Talk page, it goes at the bottom. Clicking on New section on the top menu bar does this automatically. I moved your Bibliography section to the bottom. Given the Talk page of this low-visitors article gets VERY few edits, unlikely you will ever get an answer. David notMD (talk) 01:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Hi @APG2000: If you need help with anything, give me a shout. I don't mind help you get up to speed. I saw your message at the Teahouse. scope_creepTalk 11:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Peer Review

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Hi,

I just finished reviewing your article and have pasted my response below:

Peer review: APG2000 "Libertarian perspectives on immigration"

Lead evaluation The Lead does not appear to have been updated, as there was mostly content added to the body of the piece. I believe that the introduction could use a little more clarification--it does not start out by describing what the libertarian view on immigration is, but instead by identifying the importance of this view in libertarian theory, followed by a quote justifying the viewpoint of non-interference by the government. While I believe these are good inclusions, the introduction would be clearer if it explicitly described what the view was [i.e. open borders] briefly before describing its importance and the reasoning behind the view.

Content evaluation The content of this draft was very relevant to the topic, as it discussed a few more libertarian perspectives on immigration that were not described in the original article. Although this new content has similarities to the preexisting article, it also adds in the idea of private property and individual rights in reference to the idea of immigration and open borders--with an emphasis on the protection of citizen's rights. The content appears up to date and relevant, as it clearly described how these libertarians feel about immigration, their suggestions to improve it and their reasoning behind this view.

This article/draft does not include an information on historically underrepresented populations, such as immigrants themselves, in relation to possible critiques or conflicting attitudes toward immigration. I think the addition of some critiques of libertarian perspectives from other theorists may be helpful in expanding the conversation, although it makes sense for the libertarian perspective to be more prevalent since that is the focus of the article.

Tone and balance evaluation This article is informational and neutral, but as mentioned previously, it does not account for other views on immigration or critiques of the libertarian views. I think the inclusion of some critiques may be helpful to provide a complete account of the various theories, to represent both the support for these libertarian theories as well as some reservations that other theorists may have toward it.

Sources and references evaluation All of the information present in this draft are backed up by secondary sources; one suggestion I do have is to include less quotations, and to instead explain the concepts in your own words to represent the ideas discussed. While a few quotations may be helpful, this draft includes four quotations, each a few lines in length and not all of which seem necessary to quote verbatim. I'd suggest picking the most impactful/informational quotations, and then try to explain the other ones through paraphrase in order to improve the flow of the article. This way you can directly relate the different perspectives in your own words as well without breaking up the discussion with quotations.

The sources included are all by Murray Rothbard or his student Hans-Hermann Hoppe--both are libertarian theorists and economists so their viewpoints are very helpful and informative inclusions to the article, which did not previously feature their work. These views offer a broader range of perspectives to the article, since in the original version there was a focus on open borders and a brief comment on closed-borders. This draft expands on this by relating immigration to private property where the individual can decide who they want on their property, rather than by a government-made decision.

Even though not all of these sources are peer-reviewed journal articles, I think they are appropriate for this particular article since it is representing the stance of libertarian theorists, in order to expand on their understanding and views of immigration. They are also relatively current, as each of the articles is from the 1990s. The links also appear to work.

Organization evaluation As mentioned in the previous section, I believe the replacement of some quotations with a clear paraphrase will help improve the flow of the article, as well as allow you to connect ideas from different sources rather than just jump from perspective to perspective. There do not appear to be any grammatical or spelling errors throughout this piece--the diction was clear and neutral throughout as well.

Images and media evaluation There are no images present in or added to the article.

New Article Evaluation N/A

Overall evaluation Overall, I believe this draft was well-done in expanding on the perspectives present in the article to show a wider range if libertarian viewpoints on immigration. The main two critiques I have for improving the article is to paraphrase more of the quotations so that the article flows more cohesively and concisely, and for the addition of some perspectives from critics so that the reader is informed of both the support for and criticism against these libertarian theories on immigration.

17lpratt (talk) 22:33, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Reply