APNYC5

May 2008

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UM WHY AM I BLOCKED?--APNYC5 (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)--APNYC5 (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)--APNYC5 (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)--APNYC5 (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)--APNYC5 (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You do not appear to be blocked. Toddst1 (talk) 22:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Todd, Please look at Albania Portal, at the very top it says "OUR MOTO IS: ALBANIANS LOVE SERBS,AND SERBS LOVE US" IT IS VANDALISM, AND ITS IS 110% INCORRECT, BOTH FACTIONS ABSOLUTELY HATE EACH OTHER... PLEASE GET RID OF IT, AND PREVENT PEOPLE FROM MAKING RIDICULOUS CHANGES LIKE THAT.

THANKS BRO! --APNYC5 (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Number of Albanians

Can you please explain this line -- "Kosovo (Kosovo, Preshevo, Bujanovc, Medvegja): 3.0 million"

Where are those other 3 regions (Preshevo, Bujanovc.. etc.)? Adding up the population of all the countries in the Balkans on the Albanians page adds up to roughly 6.3M. You said that those 3 regions are on the borders of Kosovo in which case they'd be included in either the Albanian populations of Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia or Kosovo itself... Please explain.

And please sign your posts -- by using 4 ~. --Buffer v2 (talk) 23:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

PRESHEVO & BUJANOVC ARE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN MOST TIP OF SERBIA, AND TO THE RIGHT OF KOSOVO. MEDVEGJA IS LOCATED NORTH EAST OF KOSOVO.

PRESHEVO, BUJANOVC, AND MEDVEGJA ARE THREE AREAS WHERE ALBANIANS ARE THE MAJORITY OVER THE 90 PECENTILE MARK... THESE THREE TERRITORIES WERE ORIGINALLY PART OF KOSOVO, AND HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF IT'S BORDERS AND INCLUDED IN SERBIA... KNOWN FACT.

NOW TOGETHER WITH THE KOSOVO POPULATION MAKE UP ROUGHLY 3 MILLION IN TOTAL THE ALBANIAN POPULATION CONSENSUS HAS BEEN RELEASED AND IS APPROXIMATELY 4.3MILLION MACEDONIA HAS 780,000 ALBANIANS MONTENEGRO HAS 38,000 ALBANIANS

4.3 + 3.0 + 0.780 + 0.038 = 8.118 MILLION

--APNYC5 (talk) 23:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

BY THE WAY, YOU DONT HAVE CITATIONS FOR THE OTHER COUNTRIES, BUT YOUR EXCLUSIVELY ASKING FOR A CITATION REGARDING ALBANIANS...AND THAT ISN'T BIASED? YOUR BASING YOUR SOURCES ON OTHER WIKIPEDIA PAGES WHICH CAN EASILY BE EDITED... SO IN ALL FAIRNESS CITE LEGITIMATE SOURCES FRO ALL THE ETHNICITIES IN TERMS OF POPULATION, AND MAKE THE CORRECTION TO REPRESENT 8.113 ALBANIANS, OR YOU DELETE THE WHOLE SECTION REGARDING POPULATIONS OF ALL THE ETHNICITIES. --APNYC5 (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you please stop using caps? I'm asking for a source for Albanians for the sole reason that it's being disputed right now. For the other ethnicities, I have checked the populations of the countries, and the their demographics sections of their articles, and the numbers roughly match. And all the numbers in the Albanians page are sourced. Can you also give me the names of those 3 regions in English? I can't find them on wikipedia at all... And like I said, those figures are included in Serbia's population if it belongs to Serbia. I really don't understand your argument.--Buffer v2 (talk) 00:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I just found some information: based on the fact that these 3 regions (Presevo, Bujanovc, Medgegja) total only 100,000 people, it is impossible for Kosovo+these 3 regions to equal 3 million considering Kosovo's Albanian population is only 1.8 million.. can you please explain? --Buffer v2 (talk) 00:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Most consensus numbers for Bujanovac, Preshevo, and Medvegja/Medvedja are falsified purposely to conceal the true population of albanians there because in releasing and stating the true figures would contradict, undermine Serbia's territorial integrity, and legitimate rights to those territories in question.

I am not albanian, I have read an impressive amount about the whole Balkan region, and have taken trips there where I conducted several archeological, sociological, and psychological studies on the varying ethnicities, and their origins. My doctoral dissertation was on the region, so I think that I am more than justified in my statements, and requests for correction.

Furthermore, relative to Serbia's adoration, and patriotism over the orthadox churches in kosovo, those churches were Albanian Roman Catholic churches that were converted by force, this has been proven time and time again by many scholarls from ENGLAND, AUSTRIA, and GERMANY.

I am so far from biased buddy, I just want things to be placed in proper perspective on this page.

Thanks for your correspondence, and I really hope you do the right thing.

--APNYC5 (talk) 02:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I never said you were Albanian. But without sources/citations, no one will accept your edits (you've already witnessed that - something as seemingly insignificant such as population of an ethnic group is easy to bring about controversy). They will be branded as original research and POV, both of which are violations of Wikipedia rules. All information I've found state that those three regions have total populations amounting to 100,000, and for regions as small as those, a population of 1.2M would be bizarre (considering that Serbia's population is only 8M). So, based on my research, it seems that your facts are incorrect. Unless you present some sources, disputes will arise, and you will be found to be violating the latter two rules. Sorry. Just informing you of the rules. --Buffer v2 (talk) 03:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Your basing statistics from other wikipedia articles that were edited by average people? or are you basing statistics released from biased factions/states, which have methods controlling numbers by labeling albanians as turks (who happen to have albanian last names), serbo-greek orthodox albanians as slavic/serbs? As far as small territory bizarre population???? are you kidding me... YOUR MR. ADMIN.... you control this article which is pretty sad considering that fact that your preventing people who are more knowledgeable, and credible... the whole purpose is for people to add incite into a perplexing region in Europe.

Your disputing something that is commonly manipulated to better suite a particular groups image... Your not being reasonable nor are you being ethical... AS FAR AS WIKIPEDIA POLICIES... THIS WHOLE ARTICLE IS A SHAM WITH ALOT OF STATEMENTS THAT HAVE NO CITATIONS... SERIOUSLY WHAT A JOKE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS... GET REAL, BE FAIR, AND CHANGE THE INFO... --APNYC5 (talk) 03:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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