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Hope to see you join! Harej (talk) 21:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

What is a cladogram and what is not

Peter Coxhead undid an edit I made to the cladogram page, saying that "this must be discussed first." He has not seen fit to start that conversation so I will. The section I wrote is based on what is stated - apparently unobjectionably - in the earlier part of the Cladogram article:

"a cladogram is a diagram used in cladistics which shows relations among organisms. A cladogram is not, however, an evolutionary tree because it does not show how ancestors are related to descendants or how much they have changed; many evolutionary trees can be inferred from a single cladogram ..."

and

"Researchers must decide which character states are "ancestral" (plesiomorphies) and which are derived (synapomorphies), because only synapomorphic character states provide evidence of grouping.[10] "

Phenetic algorithms do not use outgroups, and neither they nor ML or Bayesian methods group by synapomorphy alone.. This is why the material in the "Selecting a cladogram" section is incorrect - particularly, the statement "Algorithms for cladograms include least squares, neighbor-joining, parsimony, maximum likelihood, and Bayesian inference." These things are not "cladistics" and do not, therefore, produce "cladograms." Abrower (talk) 12:27, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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Homology (biology)

Thanks for your addition; it would be appreciated if you could cite the discussion of the second paragraph. Many thanks Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Occams Razor

Hey Abrower, I reverted your your recent contributions to Occams Razor because it appeared to contain personal research or opinions. See WP:FORUM for more information. I'm so terribly utterly sorry for "Naysaying", I should have added this earlier but I figured such reasons were obvious and I was very tired so it slipped my mind. Good luck! Beaten Corpse (talk) 22:04, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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Transformed cladistics

A recent edit to this article seems to have completely changed the sense of a sentence in the lead; I wonder if you have any thoughts about it. -- JBL (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, I don't know who changed it, and even though I would be happy if it were true, I don't think it is. But I have learned from "people" such as Peter Coxhead (why is that even allowed?) that it is futile to try to repair these things. Abrower (talk) 19:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your response! The user who changed it was Djpmapleferryman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) -- based on their editing, it appears this person is David J. Patterson. Based on your comments (and the fact that no evidence was offered in support of the change), I have reverted their edit. All the best, JBL (talk) 20:12, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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