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Your revert on shopping mall

Funny about how you reverted the edit about the whole "eat and shop" paragraph. When I saw that, my first reaction was, "How is eating and shopping at the same time revolutionary? The tackier customers eat and shop at the same time in my store all the time." It's a sad commentary when people can't stop eating long enough to go shopping, don't you think? SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Club Penguin

Stop vandalizing club penguin— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratónbat (talk • contribs) 18:22, January 22, 2007 (UTC)

how do i put in a photograph in the club penguin article?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratónbat (talk • contribs) 22:31, March 20, 2007 (UTC)

Harding University

I read the Harding website. They claim to be affiliated with the Church of Christ ... not some Churches of Christ. What is the secondary source to document your change? (My daughter attends there, and so we know Harding very well). Is it that a church you attend doesn't consider itself grouped with the remaining Churches of Christ? If so, then why are you editing this article? Mom in Texas.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.185.55.79 (talk • contribs) 15:05, March 28, 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Churches of Christ article describes their congregational autonomy. Since there are no "formal headquarters, councils, or hierarchal church government" there can be no formal affiliation with the "Church of Christ" as a whole. Individual congregations may affiliate with the university, though the university cannot truly affiliate with all churches of Christ. --Adavidb 21:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Illogical

According to Adavidb's logic, then, it is impossible to have this encyclopedia article on a category or class of topic called the Churches of Christ. If there is no formality whatsoever, then this article exists in defiance of Wikipedia rules, as no secondary sources would document it's existence.

But yet there is this "thing" known as the Churches of Chirst, and secondary sources abound to document its existence and historical nature. It is a collective movement, with distinct notable events in time.

If we go with your logic, an aritcle should NOT exist at all. If we use my logic, the article is justified, and citations of secondary sources are required per Wikipedia rules. Harding claims it is affiliated with the Churches of Chirst ... and it is not that Churches of Christ affiliate with it. They explain so in their school history, in which the name of the school is credited to

"James A. Harding, co-founder and first preident of Nashville Bible School (now David Lipscomb University) in Nashville, Tenn. A preacher, teacher and Christian educator, James A. Harding inspired his co-workers and associates with an enthusiasm for Christian education that remains a significant tradition at Harding University."

Regardless of Harding, James A. Harding makes the quote on CENI, and it is a principle ... dare I say "creed" of the Churches of Christ? Yes, it is, and it is documented as such. Any Church of Christ which denies the principle behind this statement would not have a doctrine qualifying it to be loosely "associated" with what both society ... and people within the movement ... define collectively as this category of churches.

If that is NOT true, then there is no "group" which is definable in a collective sense known as the Churches of Christ, unified about a certain set of principles, and then you would be correct ... and then this article cannot be documented and should be deleted from this website. If the NATURE of the "Churches of Christ" cannot be DENOMINATED into a coherent citable article ... then it's time for deletion of this article, due to failure to meet the Wikipedia standards.

In other words, the mere existence of this article challenges the very nature of this group, and the negative responses (vandalisms) to the article is in-and-of itself PROOF of the groups existence, therebe justifying the article and JUSTIFYING citable sources, like James A. Harding. Grayghost01 00:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. ... I see someone else has sniffed out your irrationality.

I referred to the autonomy described in the Wikipedia article and did not use individual logic. Individual congregations are governed locally and with the Bible as their guide, do tend to share the same practices. Collectively they are referred to as "Churches of Christ". Because of their autonomy however, differences between them exist, which as you've noted do seem to present problems with maintaining the associated article. --Adavidb 12:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Citations

I just saw your edits over on the Barbershop Harmony Society page, and I wanted to mention something that you might find helpful. Your citations look fine, but Wikipedia offers citation templates that can be used to help organize necessary information for the citation. I was going to do one or two like this yesterday but it was already getting late.

If you do use these, you put them between the <ref> </ref> tags, and you don't have to make each line appear on a separate line like they show on that page. Just separate each line with a vertical line | and any sections that you don't fill in won't be displayed. Once you get it down these can be time saving, as you just have to copy and paste one into a document and add the details where they need to go. Anyway, happy editing! Hewinsj 16:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have used the {{cite ... }} templates some in the past, though it never became a habit. I'll experiment again with using cite templates and see how it goes. —Adavidb 01:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. If they work for you cool, if not what your doing is fine too. I just know they've been helpful to me in the past so I try to mention them in case it helps others. Hewinsj 03:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

1980s

Oops, I appear to have inadvertently trodden on fingers. I didn't see that you had already started work on tidying this article, and I made a handful of improvements myself (well I think they are improvements). Nothing significant, just minor grammar and phrasing nits. I shall slink away and find another article to cut my wikiteeth on. --Archaro 21:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

No need to "slink away"; you're certainly welcome to improve any article. My concern was the return of the 'grammar' template with no provided examples. Thanks for responding. —Adavidb 02:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Stop messing up OUR school's entry

You don't go to our school. You don't know what it's like. Get off our page and stop changing things.

-Pallotti High School — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.77.203 (talk • contribs) 03:16, June 8 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism will be reverted and blocked. —Adavidb 10:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

There was NO "vandalism" on our page before you started ruining it. You dont go to school there anyway, why the hell do you care whats on our page?? LEAVE US ALONE! Wow you must really have no life if you have nothing better to do than mess up other peoples entries on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.77.203 (talk • contribs) 00:54, June 11 2007 (UTC)

One's contributions speak for themselves. —Adavidb 12:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Warning vandals

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Battle of North Point, you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. --AW 16:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of those templates. Thanks. —Adavidb 23:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I am wondering if you are from Poestenkill?

You seem to know allot about Poestenkill, so I was wondering, are you from here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halim7 (talk • contribs) 23:46, June 8, 2007

I came across the Poestenkill article after you added a related sentence to the James A. Garfield article, which I've been updating as well. While not from Poestenkill, I did some research to find citations for some of the existing content with the intent of improving the article. —Adavidb 00:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

George Washington

Please note that the revision back to the mistaken information about when Thomas Jefferson took office as secretary of state was not appreciated. Jefferson was Minister to France at the time of his appointment and was unable to return home until months afterwards. Jay was still Secretary of Foreign affairs, as a holdover from Confederation, and when the name of the department was changed in September 1789, he became Secretary of State.

As to his being chief justice for some of that time, well, things were different back then. John Marshall was Secretary of state and Chief Justice simultaniously too, a few weeks in 1801. Marberry vs. Madison and all that.Ericl 20:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Appreciated or not, Wikipedia policy requires attribution for information included in articles. General proclamation of such information in talk pages is not a substitute for proper citations. —Adavidb 02:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)