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Names and nicknames of astronomical objects

Thank you Agerskov! (the two new names of the open star cluster Messier 67 in the constellation Cancer). I collect names and nicknames of astronomical objects beyond our solar system, from Proxima Centauri (the nearest star) onward to the most remote superstructures in the universe (those enormous voids and superclusters of galaxies, known as filaments). This is a hobby which started somewhere in the eighties, thanks to the U.S.-magazine ASTRONOMY, and also SKY & TELESCOPE. Nowadays it's WIKIPEDIA (exploring every article on astronomy, always hunting for names and nicknames of astronomical objects!). DannyCaes (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Danny

I am also interested in the names of such objects. I would really like the M4 globular cluster having the name The Spinthariscope Cluster after the description Robert Burnham Jr. gave it in his classic Burnham's Celestial Handbook about exactly the objects beyond the solar system which after over 40 years is still an epic work for amateur astronomers.

But I or other contributors to Wikipedia articles cannot change the name because we need an independed source. I have used in my own manual astronomical log which I haven't put on the web yet. And I will use it on the two Danish astronomical Facebook pages where I already contribute.

Are your collection of names and nicknames for astronomical objects beyond our solar system public available?

Agerskov (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, the whole of my collection is not as one single unit public available (only bits and pieces, in certain Wikipedia articles). I would like to see my entire collection online, for example as a huge alphabetic list in an individual Wikipedia article, but, as you know, it can't be online without an armada of reliable sources. Most of the names that I have collected are from books and magazines, but of many of them I can't remember from what books and magazines these were! (especially the books). Have you seen the Wikipedia articles with alphabetic lists of astronomical objects named after people? Most of these names are from my collection. See also the alphabetic list of stars named after people. It's an interesting hobby. Perhaps you also know of the booklet DEEP-SKY NAME INDEX 2000.0 by Hugh C. Maddocks? (Foxon-Maddocks Associates, 1991). DannyCaes (talk) 16:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

By the way, for me it's okay when globular cluster Messier 4 is called Spinthariscope Cluster (!!!). I know of Burnham's interesting description of his experiment with the spinthariscope (great reading!). DannyCaes (talk) 16:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

You could put your list as a subpage on your own User page here on Wikipedia. Like User:DannyCaes/CelestialNames. You can mention the list is on Wikipedia because you keep track of names which you are looking for independent sources to so they could be part of names on articles. Agerskov (talk) 19:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

I haven't seen any of the list or the book but I will now. I have just started my enhanced interest in astronomy in January 2022 - and it feels like I finally got home. Agerskov (talk) 19:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Good idea! (the subpage on my own User page). Thanks! I shall see what I can do. Astronomy and spaceflight have always been my hobbies since I was age 4 (the first manned landing on the moon in the summer of 1969). I have been an avid collector of unofficial nomenclature of lunar surface features too (craters, mountains, etc...), but now it's the universe beyond our solar system! (truckloads of names and nicknames!!!). DannyCaes (talk) 14:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

If I calculate nine months backwards from my birthday 29 April 1970 I could have been conceive as part of the celebration of the first moonlanding 21 July 1969 ...

It has always interested me - both space and astronomy. It was the books from library I read most as a kid. I was also a system administrator in the section of the Technical University of Denmark where they constructed the first Danish satellite Ørsted. Agerskov (talk) 07:34, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Rare question: how many of us (collectors of names of astronomical objects) are there on our planet? 5? 10? 50? 100? More than 100? DannyCaes (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Count me out - or ?

I am not a collector as such but astronomy is more interesting and fun if the objects you talk or write about has names instead of M31, NGC 6302, Barnard 33, Cr 399, ζ Ursæ Majoris, 58 Orion, R Leporis. V1309 Scorpii, HIP 87937 which by the way is The Andromeda Galaxy, The Butterfly Nebula, The Horsehead Nebula, The Coathanger Cluster, Mizar, Betelgeuse, Hind's Crimson Star.

Most times the name of a celestrial object has a history which is directly connected to the name or it descripes the way the object looks like. Just looking at the objects themselves is not interesting or fun in the long run. Like my wife says "I Can't see why is it so intesting that one of the spots are more luminos than the other." Agerskov (talk) 10:49, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

By the way, in Courtney Seligman's and Wolfgang Steinicke's extremely interesting online NGC and IC pages, there are several of the mentioned astronomers which have discovered only one NGC or IC object. These objects should get the names of their discoverers too! One example of that kind of astronomers is Charles Augustus Young (the discoverer of galaxy NGC 6187 in Draco). Mmmm... perhaps interesting to create a list of those "one hit wonders". DannyCaes (talk) 12:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Experimental alphabetic list of astronomical nomenclature

Yes, it is a fact. I'm working on the very first sections of the experimental alphabetic list of astronomical nomenclature beyond the solar system. It is online in: User:DannyCaes/AstronomicalNomenclature

Thanks Agerskov! DannyCaes (talk) 10:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Wow - I have added to my astronomy bookmarks. Agerskov (talk) 10:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

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