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Random featured/good article within a category/subject?

Hi Ahecht,

I notice you are the creator of the random page tool. I was trying to manipulate the syntax so that I can get a random featured/good article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_articles) within a specific category/subject/topic. E.g, random featured article in the Business,_economics,_and_finance. Is this possible? Also, is there a way to prevent bio pages from populating when generating a random article? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.248.228 (talk) 06:32, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't have a way in the tool of generating category intersections, but for your first question you can use the "returntype=subject" feature to return articles based on categories on their talk page. For example: toolforge:RandomInCategory/FA-Class WikiProject Business articles?returntype=subject. For the second, that would require negative intersection, and I don't have a way of doing that. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:10, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Village Pump

hey you commented on my post in village pump and i couldnt reply so i just wanted to say that im pretty new to this and that im sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeggoMyEggoNOW (talk • contribs) 16:01, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@LeggoMyEggoNOW Hey, no problem, we were all new once. Hope you get the answers you're looking for. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Templates' transclusion numbers

Hello, Ahecht!

I was thinking, would it be possible that beside counting and documenting transclusions in ~/Data, we also put High risk templates in the templates that were added in those pages? Those that didn't have one yet, obviously. - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Klein Muçi I'd rather keep those tasks separate, as it would greatly complicate the bot code because it would have to remember which templates it's removing from the list and edit those as well. A second bot could be written to read the pages in /Data and look at the diffs to see what changed, but I don't have the time to work on that. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough. If you ever find time to tackle that, please let me know. In the meantime, I happened to stumble upon your script for auto-purge/null edit, activated it globally and I can say I'm really happy about it. Really appreciated! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 02:05, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Kyrgyzstan medical cases chart/sandbox

Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Kyrgyzstan medical cases chart/sandbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 06:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Mainland China medical cases chart/sandbox

Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Mainland China medical cases chart/sandbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 07:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Sadgop

Hello sir please see Sadgop some editors are writing shudras with wrong sources whereas nothing like that is written in those sources they are writing shudras again and again with completely bad sources. 2409:4053:2103:548F:0:0:175:B8AC (talk) 20:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox nutritional value/unit

Template:Infobox nutritional value/unit has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Misunderstanding/misclick

Hello, @Ahecht, I assume your reversion on the page Cyrus the great was a misunderstanding or a misclick, because I just reverted an unconstructive edit, and you reverted my reversion (this is the original unconstructive edit/test someone made; ironically, I was going to add the same Tinkle template to this person when I received the notification for your post on my talk page). I will bring back the version before this whole situation happened. ElementSix (talk) 20:12, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@ElementSix Thanks. I probably hit the revert button right after you did. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:23, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

edit on the Elwins page

there would be no published source to cite, however I am christopher shannon, the person whom the article is referring to, and i thought i would change the article to better reflect the truth. is this something i can confirm with you? drivers licence photo?

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.58.208.76 (talk) 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Christopher. Unfortunately, Wikipedia only allows the inclusion of content that has been published in reliable sources. If you wish to include this information in the Wikipedia article, you would have to get it published elsewhere first. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

can i delete any reference to myself in the article then? 198.58.208.76 (talk) 19:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Please see WP:AUTOPROB and Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_subjects. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for March 31

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited 67th Academy Awards, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Blue screen.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Interwiki linking of script summary

Hi, I just used User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap on another project, and would like to put it on my global.js after confirming that it works globally. But those red-linked "pageswap" is bothering me. Can you please change the script code to be [[User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap|pageswap]] to [[:en:User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap|pageswap]], so that the edit summary left on any projects targets to the correct page. Thanks! ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 00:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

@CX Zoom  Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

IEEE 1394

Hi! Just pinging you (albeit late) that I responded to you at Talk:IEEE 1394. Cheers! —151.132.206.250 (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Smith county justice

information scam 174.242.222.15 (talk) 22:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Page move: Swap

Hi Ahecht, I don't know if it is just me but I'm no longer seeing a "swap" link within "The page cannot be moved" error message using your pageswap.js script. Cheers Polyamorph (talk) 11:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Polyamorph Looks like this was caused by MediaWiki getting rid of the errorbox class. It should be fixed now. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Polyamorph (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Pageimages-denylist test

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created, Pageimages-denylist test, was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Before you yell at me, yes I did read the explanation for why this was created in mainspace, and was not convinced. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Gujarat Assembly

Hi, thanks for helping to move some of the pages. It seems you had already moved these pages so my batch move failed for them. You seem to have forgotten to move the talk pages for these and they are still at the older location. Please move them.

Dump:

Dabhoi (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dabhoi Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dahegam (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dahegam Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dahod (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dahod Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dangs (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dangs Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Danilimda (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Danilimda Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Danta (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Danta Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dariapur (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dariapur Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Daskroi (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Daskroi Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dediapada (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dediapada Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Deesa (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Deesa Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Deodar (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Deodar Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Devgadhbariya (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Devgadhbariya Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dhandhuka (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dhandhuka Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dhanera (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dhanera Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dhari (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dhari Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dholka (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dholka Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dhoraji (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dhoraji Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.
Dhrangadhra (Vidhan Sabha constituency): A page already exists at [[:Dhrangadhra Assembly constituency]], or the page name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.

Venkat TL (talk) 15:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL Thanks. Moving the talk really should be the default in the script the same way it is at Special:MovePage. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I used the feature in your tool. Strangely your moves left the page at old locations. May be you forgot. I asked you since you had moved those articles, let me know if you want me to move these talk pages for you. Venkat TL (talk) 15:44, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL Yeah, I forgot to check it, but I went ahead and moved them now. I modified the script so it will make moving the talk the default now. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Pageimages-denylist test for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pageimages-denylist test is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pageimages-denylist test until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

* Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Pageimages-denylist test for deletion Edit

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pageimages-denylist test is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pageimages-denylist test until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. 223.24.160.87 (talk) 00:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Report of possible vandal

Reporting user Nbisbo as potential vandal and for disrespect towards users by trying to justify his/her edits or reverts with unbased reasons and words like "bs" and calling users "outrage folks". Block of Nbisbo user should be considered. 151.18.125.147 (talk) 04:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator, not sure why you're talking to me about this. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 04:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

It's just a globally-locked sock flailing about for support.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:29, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Faster than the speed limit

Moved from User talk:Ahecht/Scripts/massmove § Faster than the speed limit

Wikipedia:Page_mover#Increased_page_move_throttle has a speed limit. But the tool seems to hit the limit quite frequently, leading to dropped entries, that need to be collected and the tool need to be rerun. @Ahecht: Can this tool be made a slightly slower to agree with the server imposed limit, so that all the entries are handled. --Venkat TL (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL I could've sworn that that script retrieved the rate limit and throttled itself, but I must've been thinking of one of my other scripts. I'll take a look. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ahecht Thanks for the reply. With a batch of 66 entries 3 dropped. 7 dropped in a batch of 160. Hope this helps you. Other than this, the tool works like a charm. Thanks for your efforts in sharing this. Venkat TL (talk) 21:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL 7 out of 160 sounds a bit low. How long did that batch of 160 take to run? When I've tested it each move takes about 1/4 second, so I would use up my 16 moves in about 4 seconds and the next 224 would fail until the 60 seconds were up. Maybe if your computer or internet connection is slower you'd get more. In any case, I pushed a new version of the script that will retrieve your rate limit and throttle accordingly (so with the enwiki defaults, if you're moving more than 16 pages, it will move one every 4 seconds). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

If not 7 it may be 10 or 12, I dont exactly remember, But certainly not more than 15 drops happened in that batch of 160. How long did it take to run, It is tough, as I was not keeping track of time. If it helps you, I would note the time and exact number of dropped entries next time I run the tool. Venkat TL (talk) 18:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL: Next time you run the tool, if you open up your browser's console (usually ⇧ Shift+F12 to open developer tools, and then esc to open the console if it's not already open), it will display a time-stamped log of all its actions that you can copy and paste. I put in an option to bypass the rate limit if you want to do more testing. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok. I will follow these steps next time I am running the tool. I will respond here with the log. Venkat TL (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

the tool is broken, now it halts after successfully moving one page. The batch, apart from the first entry, remains unprocessed. Please revert back to previous version that worked. I was attempting the Category:Assembly constituencies of Gujarat as a batch. Venkat TL (talk) 11:14, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL I fixed a potential bug. Try it again now, and if it still doesn't work send me the console logs. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ahecht it worked well without drops for the ones in Gujarat that remained. I am logging, will share if there are drops. So far none. thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

No drops faced so far. I think I have done around 200 already. This is resolved with your recent fixes. Venkat TL (talk) 17:42, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

👍 --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Ahecht,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 804 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 852 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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POTD

You've been doing a lot of the new POTDs. Thanks for that! Might be able to get quite a ways ahead at this rate. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 08:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. Specifically, your edit to user:q28 may be offensive or unwelcome. In general, it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing others' user pages without their permission. Instead, please bring the matter to their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so. Please refer to Wikipedia:User page for more information on user page etiquette. -- Q28 (talk) 11:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Q28: You clearly saw that I accidentally posted to your user page instead of your user talk, you saw that I immediately reverted, and you could tell that the content wasn't vandalism. WP:Don't template the regulars. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Special:WantedTemplates

Hi! Would it be possible for you to add

/* <nowiki> */

to the top and

/* </nowiki> */

to the bottom of User:Ahecht/Scripts/potd-helper.js and User:Ahecht/sandbox/Scripts/potd-helper.js? By putting these tags inside of javascript comments, it won't impact the functionality of your script, but it will keep the backend software from transcluding Template:", "\\. You will know if the tags worked if Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:", "\\ no longer shows your javascript pages. By fixing these, we can keep the number of entries in Special:WantedTemplates to a minimum. Thank you in advance for your help! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:14, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Featured picture scheduled for POTD

Hi Ahecht,

This is to let you know that File:Male wild turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) strutting.jpg, a featured picture you uploaded or nominated, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for November 24, 2022. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2022-11-24. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 21:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

The turkey is a large species of bird in the genus Meleagris, native to North America. There are two extant turkey species: the wild turkey (M. gallopavo) of eastern and central North America and the ocellated turkey (M. ocellata) of the Yucatán Peninsula in Mexico. Males of both turkey species have a distinctive fleshy wattle, called a snood, that hangs from the top of the beak. They are among the largest birds in their ranges. As with many large ground-feeding birds (members of the order Galliformes), the male is bigger and much more colorful than the female. This photograph, taken at Deer Island Preserve in Novato, California, shows a male Rio Grande wild turkey (M. g. intermedia) strutting – the courtship display, in which the snood (the erectile, fleshy protuberance on the forehead) engorges with blood, becomes redder and elongates, hanging well below the beak.

Photograph credit: Frank Schulenburg

Recently featured:

• Cephalanthus occidentalis
• Saint Anne
• Laetiporus sulphureus

I figure I have plenty of time to fix this if it somehow doesn't pass.... Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 21:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

About the recent reversion of a couple of template edits

Your revisions on Template:Featured picture and Template:If in category have been (at least partially) reverted. Don't worry - The core issue is more due to a weird implementation design in If in category and some template recursion, so theres not much you can do to fix this, so don't worry about it. A new version will hopefully be sorted soon which will be more efficient and avoid weird designs, at which point it'll probably be fine to re-implement the edits to Featured picture. Hope that explains the situation. Aidan9382 _(talk) 07:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Issue is all sorted. No need to worry. Aidan9382 _(talk) 10:33, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2022-06-17

Did I miss this somehow? Just surprised there was a gap for the image to fit into; did one get deleted? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden I was surprised by that gap too, but there was nothing indicating a previous page had been deleted before I did the move (and nothing in the logs). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ah, well. I do tend to jump around the month when setting them up - easier to keep all the bird pics, say, from forming a run of images if I look ahead and space things out first, then filling in the remaining gaps. And it's arguably a good thing, given it gave a space for when that image's article was fixed. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden To clarify, the gap I was trying to fill was at Template:POTD/2022-08-25. Looking at anniversaries and birthdays on that date led me to Hans Adolf Krebs, so I moved the Krebs Cycle image from 6-17 to 8-25 and put the Iceland picture in its place on Icelandic National Day. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ah! That makes sense. Still surprised I missed the August one, but... Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 20:18, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

POTD unused

Been thinking about POTD/Unused. There's another dozen images that probably should be on there (basically everything on [1] between File:2017.08.06.-04-Kirschgartshaeuser Schlaege Mannheim--Weidenjungfer-Maennchen.jpg and File:Blue tiger (Tirumala limniace exoticus) male underside.jpg have article issues.) Unlike other Unused files, this is something that can readily be fixed.

D'ye think asking the Signpost if we could make a section for images that have issues related to articles, so interested people can have a go at fixing them is a good idea? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:37, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: shouldn't this probably go under a seperate section and not as a reply here? Aidan9382 _(talk) 17:39, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Point, though it's related to the template edits.Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden Some of those (e.g. Shanghai, Old Royal Naval College) could be listed pretty much as-is. As for the others, posts on WT:WikiProject Birds and WT:WikiProject Insects might be a good first step. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Old Royal Naval College has some big gaps in citing, so we'd need to be a little careful, though. Only cited facts are allowed on the main page. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:59, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Did a post on the bird project to start. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 13:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Merkin

Shoved her to December. I don't think anything productive is going to come out of the current discussion in the time left, so giving it time for talk. Still say that the proper response to "shouldn't be an FP" is a delist nom at WP:FPC, but... at least there's time for a timely discussion now, and the people who want to complain can have six months to do so. Filled in the gap since it's so close. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 13:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Should clarify I mean "People who want to complain without wanting any sort of discussion, actionable suggestions, or ways forwards..." I honestly don't care if she doesn't run in the end, I just want a reasoning that makes sense and gives guidance going forwards, especially as we have put actual breasts on the main page. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 15:48, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Do you think it's worth just, y'know, nominating it for delisting and seeing what happens? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 17:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Thing is, I don't really want to be controversial. I figured that there was little chance anyone would even care, because... well, I've seen what we have put on the main page without controversy. I think what I might do is wait for the current discussion to die off, and start a properly framed non-voting discussion, leading, if needed, to an agreed upon wording for an RfC. Because I've never seen any discussion that turns into spontaneous voting go very well. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 11:58, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Male wild turkey strutting

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Male wild turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) strutting.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:49, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

As I think I mentioned, I scheduled this for American Thanksgiving. Figured it'd suit Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 10:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

@Cwmhiraeth and Coffeeandcrumbs: Any of you up for dealing with that? Because I'm just fucking sick of all of it. Levivich seems to just want to complain about literally everything, while ignoring any olive branches, Rhododendrites seems to want to feed the trolls, and, frankly, I would fucking vote delist on that stupid fucking image myself, because it's the most boring type of 2000s cheesecake, but I'm trying to be a fair, unbiased co-ordinator that doesn't hold back images for arbitrary reasons. I set up six months of POTD in a couple weeks, and all they're interested in is complaining. I literally pulled the fucking image, and they're still little balls of angry rage because I dared suggest that they maybe act on their stated objection that it wasn't good enough to be an FP by suggesting it be delisted. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 20:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden The discussion is about your choice of images for POTD, not about whether one of those images should be delisted as a featured image. You didn't "pull" the image, you just moved it to a later date. I don't want to argue with you, but if you're asking for other people to get involved, you should give them an accurate summary. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 20:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

AS I SAID REPEATEDLY, I moved it to December, so that IF it runs, we won't have to remake the POTD page. If you want to argue about this for 6 months and not move forwards in that entire time, that's entirely up to you, but I won't be joining you. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 21:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/All Saints Day, Holy Cross Cemetery in Gniezno, Poland

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Celebración de Todos los Santos, cementerio de la Santa Cruz, Gniezno, Polonia, 2017-11-01, DD 07-09 HDR.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

What d'ye think? Rearrange and put this for this year, or place it next year? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 11:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden I was thinking of putting it up for 2023. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 02:06, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Ahecht,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 12485 articles, as of 12:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders

• Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
• If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
• If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
• To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

Notes

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Pages which use = as a template has been nominated for deletion

Category:Pages which use = as a template has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

New Page Patrol | July 2022 Backlog Drive
On 1 July, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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(t · c) buidhe 20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:48, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Lightning in Port-la-Nouvelle

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Port and lighthouse overnight storm with lightning in Port-la-Nouvelle.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 04:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Protected template edit request

Can you please answer this edit request? Mehedi Abedin 01:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Alttext

At Template:POTD/2022-07-21, you changed alt to alttext. Unless I'm missing something, the alttext parameter doesn't work in that template. Click my link, move your cursor to the picture, and leave it there. It shows your alttext, even if you aren't blind or anything and thus aren't trying to use the alttext. The alttext describing Aldrin's appearance seems unintended and unnecessary for sighted readers. I tried it using Chrome and Edge, and the error occurs both ways. Art LaPella (talk) 04:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Art LaPella The alt text is working as intended. If you look at the source of the page, the alttext parameter is populating the HTML alt= parameter, and per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Alternative text for images the alternate text should describe the image for the visually impaired. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Bazza said something similar, but to me it sounds like the operation was a success but the patient died. Or like the Emperor's new clothes. Whatever the software may be doing, when I hold my cursor over the picture it gives me a long, unnecessary description of something I can see. One would think the Main Page should first of all work for 99% of our users, and then we can perfect it for those who need alttext. And if the guideline is interpreted to mean it should work for blind people but not for sighted people, then the guideline should be clarified. Maybe I need to talk to non-regulars. Art LaPella (talk) 20:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Art LaPella I guess I don't see the harm for sighted viewers. If you want the alt text to be "hidden" behind a simpler title, I created a sandbox version of the template that displays the image on the main page at Template:POTD row/sandbox which does just that (you can demo it by using {{POTD/2022-07-21|row/sandbox}}). Feel free to propose implementing the change on Template talk:POTD or Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:43, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll get back to that suggestion in a day or two. Art LaPella (talk) 05:28, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

Very sorry. Lots of people commenting on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), I accidentally deleted your comment. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@A.WagnerC No worries. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Ahecht,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination

MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF

The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

TIP - Reviewing by subject

Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.

New reviewers

The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

Reminders

• Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
• If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
• If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
• To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Colored list

Template:Colored list has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message

Hi Ahecht,

Invitation

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Roller coasters planned to open in 2022

A tag has been placed on Category:Roller coasters planned to open in 2022 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

New Page Patrol | October 2022 backlog drive
On 1 October, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled and for maintaining a streak throughout the drive. Barnstars will also be awarded for re-reviewing articles. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Sign up here!
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(t · c) buidhe 21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Ahechtbot transclusion count update

Hi, I noticed that Ahechtbot has stopped updating template transclusion count modules. Looking at the source code in User:Ahechtbot/transclusioncount.py, it is using tl_namespace and tl_title fields of templatelinks table. It was announced in Tech news that these fields are being dropped, so that maybe why it has stopped. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ Thanks for the heads up. I had seen that Tech news item and checked all of my userscripts, but forgot to check ahechtbot. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)