Airelor

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Yosemite hantavirus

Thank you for your support. It's been mentioned on the Hantavirus page. It's almost as if there is a conspiracy among a few editors not to allow it onto the Yosemite page itself, as if the mere mention would spoil the reputation of the park itself. That's ridiculous, if it's good enough to mention on the Hantavirus page, it should be mentioned on the Yosemite page as well. Shall we appeal together to an admin? If you write the appeal, I will second it. Just FYI, I was quickly unblocked when somebody realized they had made a mistake. So when I say appeal, I'm talking about the Yosemite hantavirus issue, not my temporary block. 173.63.176.93 (talk) 10:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay, but I'm not exactly sure how to do it. I think if we do it haphazardly without following the rules, it'll just antagonize more people against the idea of including the Hantavirus risk on the Yosemite page. I actually recently suggested yesterday on the Talk:Yosemite_National_Park that there is an argument for including news of the Hantavirus news that defends the Park as well. Yes, the editors may be personally biased, but the arguments they make have merit and make logical sense as well. Airelor (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I've made a one-sentence draft edit in a subpage User:Airelor/Yosemite_National_Park. Let me know what you think. Airelor (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry, but I'm real reluctant to get into [potential] edit wars -- I've read too many anecdotes of people quitting work on Wikipedia after getting sick and tired of the politics spoiling their contribution experience. There's plenty of uncontroversial stuff for me to work on. I hope this doesn't sour you against editing! Cheers, Wingman4l7 (talk) 23:10, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

It's okay. Thank you for looking into the matter. Happy editing! Airelor (talk) 23:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

From User:Jojhutton's Talk Page Archives

Please check this out: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/06/health/yosemite-campers-hantavirus/index.html?iref=allsearch ..and then please also check this out: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/zombie-alert-issued-homeland-security-article-1.1154245 (the Zombie alert you had brought up was just a humorous tactic to alert the public of threats far more important!--it wasn't meant to be taken for real--even I could tell!) 173.63.176.93 (talk) 14:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I first went to Yosemite National Park when I was 3 years old. Hiking up part one side of its rocky terrain with my family and friends so that we could meet a truck that would meet us at our destination with cold ice cream. However, things didn't work out so well for me. Instead, there is a photograph of me crying at our destination as a squirrel eats the ice cream that fell off my cone. I'm pretty sure a cousin or uncle of mine gave me some of their ice cream to eat after that.

The point is, I'm not trying to attack Yosemite Park. I have fond memories of being there and do not want to destroy its reputation anymore than you do. If the Hantavirus risk at Yosemite is a hoax like you claim it is, I still think it has enough exposure to merit mention. Even the Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention mentions and links to its joke Preparedness_101:_Zombie_Apocalypse Blog Post. Airelor (talk) 17:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I was recently approached by a user / users, with regards to possible edits to the Yosemite National Park article on Wikipedia. Link to this discussion follows: Edit_Centric#Hantavirus_Risk_in_Yosemite

Maybe I should've made it clearer in my first post here, which is now gone, that I wasn't trying to personally attack you. I didn't and still don't fully know how Wikipedia rules are usually interpreted and regulated. However, I think the way you were regulating Yosemite_National_Park was really bordering on too personal. See Wikipedia:BITE and Wikipedia:AGF if that helps, which I found while researching how to best write an article for my draft-edit User:Airelor/Yosemite_National_Park. Unfortunately, linking to articles in this manner doesn't really help a newcomer like me, because even though I can read it, I don't know what the general consensus already is of interpreting these long-winded guidelines. Especially with a controversial topic like Wikipedia:Recentism, which makes a case for doing and not doing while referencing at least 3 other Wiki debates in the same article. You might be lucky and get newcomers willing to learn more, ask others, and own up to their mistakes. More likely, you'll get people "vandalizing" in response, because they don't know better and think you are leading some sort of Senior Editors Conspiracy like User_talk:173.63.176.93 did. I know people who won't join Wikipedia, because they've read so many news articles saying it's all a helpless conspiracy even if that isn't the case.

I realize now why the Hantavirus issue is not significant enough to be put on the Yosemite_National_Park page. Even though, it seemed to significant to me on a national health standpoint, I wasn't an expert or well-read enough on the topic to know about the incident with the 3 hikers before or about the ongoing situation in person like User:Edit_Centric does. Although it was very unfortunate for Yosemite National Park that the 3 hikers lost their lives there last summer, there was and is still no evidence linking the incident to improper management of the Park. Similarly, there isn't enough information out there yet to conclusively say that the Hantavirus cases were directly caused by Yosemite National Park's improper management of their mice, tents, or their other plants, animals, and habitats. I understand that now and I'm sorry for any extra trouble or grief I may have caused you.

Sincerely,

Airelor (talk) 17:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

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