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Please be aware of WP:MOS#Section headings. Headings use sentence case, hence "See also", not "See Also". Please fix. Dicklyon (talk) 01:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Sourcing categories

Hi Akasseb. Thank you for your many contributions to Wikipedia. Please do note that all categories need to be sourced within the article. You have recently added many Catholic categories to BLPs without citations for their on going religious practice. We need strong sources for their personal practice, regardless of their family background, school denomination or wedding venue. I hope you will appreciate that articles, especially about living people, have to be very careful in their claims. If you have any questions, please do drop me a line. Best wishesSpan (talk) 04:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion about sources. All categories were based on strong sources of ongoing commitment to the faith. That there faith may not be discussed in the articles is unfortunate, but it doesn't detract from the fact that these individuals are devoted Catholics. Please do not undo my work. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akasseb (talk • contribs) 01:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Akasseb, the guidelines are very clear on this. You may attend a church with the subject, but what is needed is a reliable source to show their practice. I am not saying they are not devoted Catholics, I am saying that you do have to demonstrate this. Please read WP:BLPCAT and WP:EGRS. The editor adding information has the burden of proof which means you may know the person or you may have read a book but it is not up to others to offer the citation. "I read the book" is not how Wikipedia works. Thank you and happy editing. Span (talk) 03:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

You are undoing my work on articles that not only mention these individuals' Catholic faith, but also provide sources documenting ongoing practice. Please correct the articles that fall into this category (Kidman, Ingraham, etc). Meanwhile, I will add sources to the articles that do not explicitly mention an individual's Catholic faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akasseb (talk • contribs) 23:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Akasseb, thank you for your message. As you know, this is an encyclopaedia read globally; we hope it will be used over many decades. The information has to be verifiable by others who do not know the articles' subject or you; this is one of the three main planks of editing. As I have mentioned, noting that you attend a church with someone is not sufficient evidence. This is not at all personal. You have contributed greatly to many articles on Wikipedia and I appreciate that you say that you will add the references, from Champions of Faith etc. Going on a case by case basis, I mistakenly re-reverted Laura Ingram, apologies for that. Editor One Night in Hackney reverted Nicole Kidman and Michelle Malkin in error as refs are given. I see editor Frank has added refs to Yogi Berra. Please add refs today to Joe Garagiola, Tara Lipinski , Lenny Wilkens, Mike Ditka and Tommy Lasorda. It may be that another editor reverts these in the meantime. This may all seem over the top, however we do encounter editors who, for example, add Christian Science cats to three hundred articles in one hour with no reference of even mention given in the article. This happens every week, so I'm sure you can appreciate the need for us all to be careful, especially where Wikipedia is legally bound. You do need to be careful as you may face a block for continuing to add unsourced cats. I watch over 1000 articles, so you can perhaps imagine that I cannot go off hunting for particular books to add refs to 40 articles. I hope all that makes things a bit clearer. Apologies for my early error with Laura Ingram. Thank you for your many contributions to Wikipedia over the years. I will reply to you here, rather than splitting up the conversation between talk pages. Best wishes Span (talk) 06:31, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I emphatically did not revert in error. The requirement for adding religious categories to living people goes beyond the person being sourced as adhering to a particular religion. The requirements can be seen at WP:BLPCAT, and read "Categories regarding religious beliefs or sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources". The second part is generally the most relevant, it is rare that their religious beliefs are relevant to their public life or notability. Religious categories should only be added to articles about living people if both those critera are met, judged by sourced content in the article. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 13:22, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

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Merging

Please read WP:Five Pillars, WP:Consensus and WP:Merging before going ahead and merging a longstanding article. Pjposullivan (talk) 16:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Religious categories

Hi. WP:BLPCAT says to only add someone to a religious category if their notability derives from their religion... while strictly speaking BLPCAT doesn't apply to dead people, the same princple should. If someone isn't notable for something, please don't add them to that category. It serves no purpose. Regards, Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 16:02, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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