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Latest comment: 13 years ago by DeltaQuad in topic Why so complicated ?


Talk:TuneUp Utilities/GA2

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, DeltaQuad.

Almost half of the seven day time that you allotted is over. I think I have addressed all the problems as you asked. Could you please kindly review them and verify? Sorry, if I seem rushed but I felt if I just keep waiting, the seven days may just pass ... I nearly averted an edit war in the article. (It was close!) Fleet Command (talk) 05:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Well if your talking about Criterion 5, it could be delisted after because of that. I haven't looked into any of this yet, but will review the supposed edit war. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 23:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 2 May 2011

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

GOCE drive newsletter

 

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive

The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive.

Awards and barnstars
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We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

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Clerk Training

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I just wanted to say thanks for offering to take on KoH as a trainee clerk. If there are admin clerking questions that come up as you go, I'd be happy to help out. Cheers! TNXMan 02:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer of help. :) -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Confused editor is confused

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

If you feel there was "conduct unbecoming", then why did you move from oppose to neutral?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I weigh RfAs at a balance. I saw things that you did that were good actions, on the other hand you have some actions I don't think were correct. The net possive or negative in the end is what I go on. And in the end it added up to the middle, which doesn't let my oppose stand. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 18:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah. Makes sense put that way. Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:49, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

  Hello! Your submission of Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

The Signpost: 9 May 2011

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

your edits to Talk:Ateeq Hussain Khan

Latest comment: 13 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

I'm confused by your edits at 23:47 and 23:51 on 9 May 2011. Was something meant to be removed? Or did you remove some entries and then restore them? --Sarabseth (talk) 14:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The content was to be removed, and redacted = removed. These should not be restored. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 15:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Not sure what happened then, but at the end of the two edits, all the content was still intact. --Sarabseth (talk) 11:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
There were some parts of the content that were removed and oversighted. I can't say much more than that without giving the content that was oversighted. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 12:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
If you just look at the page, you'll see that all the content that was supposed to be removed and oversighted is still there. It appears on the history page as if it is removed and oversighted, but when you look at the current version all the content is still visible. --Sarabseth (talk) 13:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Only parts of the comments were oversighted. That's where I put (Redacted). -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 15:48, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I see now that just an email address was removed in 2 places. It was really hard to figure that out from the edit summaries there and your initial responses here.--Sarabseth (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Removal of posts & warnings

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, I have received warnings about 'unconstructive' posts and 'vandalism' regarding some updated entries to the UK Punk Bands list. I can see nothing wrong with these entries - it is just a list of band names and links to a Wikipedia entry on the 'Bullshit Detector' punk compilation series. Is this just an automated bot responding to the phrase 'Bullshit Detector'? I have now been threatened with removal of editing rights, so please could you remove the warnings. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.20.46 (talk) 20:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

The reason why I reverted it in the moment was because you were linking to the exact same article for multiple entries and I thought it was spam, could you explain how these are related? I'm just not sure how it all adds up. I have removed the warnings. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 01:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:OP

Latest comment: 13 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

Hello DeltaQuad. Thanks for helping out at WP:OP. I noticed your RfA earlier, and I'll probably pop over there again in a while. I hope you won't think I want to own WPOP or anything, the more proficient help the better, but I do want to make some introductory comments. First, please don't add the tags to the page until we're done with the IP in question. The archive bot is usually super efficient and it takes away to chance for other opinions, and even review by the person who listed it. It's very unusual that an IP can be confirmed either way that quickly. Speaking of which, I've blocked the IP you said was unlikely to be open. It's a web server used by an obvious sockpuppet of a probable banned proxy-using puppeteer, and even if you think it doesn't directly pass the duck test, it could really do with some explanation. I'm not sure how you would have missed that. The other thing I want to mention is that you seem to rely on port scanning. Please see my comment here and see if you can wean yourself of it. You may want to look over the proxy checking guide listed at WP:OP. Feel free to drop by with any questions or comments. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh no, I'm not looking to "own" WP:OP at all. I was just thinking it would be a better to have a second admin patrolling it. Didn't know that the bot jumps on those, so sorry for that misunderstanding, will definitely hold off on that. I will take another look over the evidence I found, I don't think I did too much of a look which is my mistake and I will be sure to look into further next time. Anyway, I might stop by your talk/email later just to figure what the best methods are. Thanks for letting me know. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:23, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, no, I was referring to me. It's difficult being the main participant of a wikiproject, without sounding like I always know what's best or want to run things my way. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Ahh...yes, I see. But I don't think either of us own it and I applaud you for sticking around with it. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 12:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
What, zzuzz didn't leave a link to the proxy checking guide? :) Seriously, it's really useful. Your recent comments at WP:OP remind me of the ones I used to make when I first started commenting there. It's fun running port scans, but they are only one source of information, and not terrible useful without further context. Like for example, say something is open on port 80 (the one port that should always be checked). It could be a web proxy, or it could be someone's home computer, or a router. One has to sort between those possibilities (and more!) but there's no one procedure for doing that, although looking at the robtex, the whois, and the content of the webpage all help provide that context. Anyway, good luck with the RfA! Sailsbystars (talk) 15:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I will be in contact with you guys soon enough, I just have RfA questions to answer. :P -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 16:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Admin coaching pages

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hullo, DeltaQuad. I was doing a little digging to research your RfA and came across User:DeltaQuad/Admin/ADCO. Is this largely accurate? I'm interested specifically in your initial responses in the Welcome section and your thoughts on the admin role. Thanks, Skomorokh 12:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

That was not this past march, so I have to say those are inaccurate. For the second point on ADCO, it's answered in Q1 of the RfA. For the first point on ADCO, simply put, I am requesting adminship because I have to bother other admins, and at sometimes wait for action to be taken (sometimes on a disruptive user), but I could be another admin that people could find and I can look into what action they are asking. It's not my mission to become an admin as I higlighted in Q4. For the third...well the ADCO ended because my coach was unable to continue due to other commitments, which I respect. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 16:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

RFA

Latest comment: 13 years ago10 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, DQ. Before I decide whether I should support your RFA, could you explain in a little more detail what you thought my "conduct unbecoming" was? At least one diff would be nice. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I will try to find one in the next hour. (after I move from my current location) -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 16:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Appreciate it. I might even agree with you, depending on which diff you come up with. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not going to capitalize on anything, as I said in your RfA how I felt, it doesn't need to be dragged on.
The block of Avanu (talk · contribs). The tool was used correctly in that the block should be preventative, but the procedure on which obtaining it, was incorrect.
This never needed a revdel even if it was uncivil.
I'm only going to list those two, and sorry if I didn't clear it up before, but this is a more overall. Too many things have added up, and that's what causes me to use the phrase conduct unbecoming an administrator. I obviously myself have made errors, look around they aren't hard to find, but it's hard for me to support if there is an absense of, what looks like, thinking it through. Feel free to contact me in private if you would like me to explain more, I just don't want to drag it out on wiki as I believe people learn from their mistakes. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 17:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
If you don't mind, I'd like to continue this on-wiki for the moment. In your opinion, where did I become INVOLVED with Avanu? This has been a bit more of a sticking point with me than my INVOLVEment with TreasuryTag, and I'd prefer to hash it out here instead of in a back channel.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
That's ok with me if you are willing. This revision is where you became involved. You were endorsing the user who posted it and the editor who restored it. I saw the IAR also in the thread, well, there are other admins around. Again, it's not that I disagree with the action taken, I was just looking for a third party admin review before a block was issued. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 12:18, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying -- while I'm still not sure I agree, it's something I need to take into account from here on out. To make it clear where I feel the distinction is, there was a discussion at about the same time involving the first appearance of the Silence -- "The Impossible Astronaut" was being listed as their first appearance, where they had actually "first appeared" in a 2-minute-or-so prequel to the episode that had been shown on BBC. If I had used tools in _that_ dispute, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's the non-content time-critical nature of the rescue tag that makes me iffy here.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Your right, the one were discussing is a little iffy right now, and maybe i'm being to hard on you because I have IRC at my disposal to find another admin easily. Anyway, wish you luck on your endevours as an admin. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 15:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, pal, but your response time to IRC queries is about to go _way_ down. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

American Airlines Flight 191 GAR

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hey DQ:

You started reviewing AAL 191 on April 29th, and other than a short comment on disambiguation and redirect pages on May 6th, as well as passing a couple criterion, I haven't received any communication regarding the article's status and what I can be doing to improve it. I see you're working with other GARs and are also running for adminship, so obviously your time is limited, but I'm wondering if you can give me an idea of the article's current status and a partial to do list on the review page so I can keep making improvements in the interim. I'm also wondering what your timeframe is for holding/passing the article. Thanks! N419BH 18:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey N419BH, sorry for the delay. I can't give you a date estimate, but ideally I would like to have this done some where within a few days from 1 week today. I can also do bits and peices if your ok with that, that would help me out. Thanks for poking me :) -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 20:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Not a problem. The last (and first) GAR I went through, the reviewer posted problems as he saw them so they could be immediately fixed. Obviously everyone does it a little differently but if that's an option I can quite easily work with it. N419BH 20:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

User:DeltaQuad/Admin/altacc

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Could you clarify your IP statement. You say you have never edited from an IP account, then you say that you cannot remember the IP but you can remember the IP. It looks like you intend to say that you have edited from an IP account over three years ago, but you cannot remember the address or number of the account.

Also, you list some Wiki accounts at the bottom of that page. These Wikis are not related to WMF as is implied. It might be worth either clarifying that, or even removing that information from that page as potentially misleading. It's OK as a general thing to give some information about yourself, but creating a link from an RFA page in which you present information which makes you appear to have gained significant permissions in other WMF sites may be read by some users as deceptive. SilkTork *Tea time 09:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I removed the bottom part as you were right is unrealted. My initial statement at the top might be a bit technical. I remember the Internet Service Provider (ISP) that I was on, but I never knew the actual IP Address I was using. I am not 100% sure that I only used an account to edit, but if I did use an IP address at all, it had less than 10 edits on it. Hope that clears it up. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I would also like to add that it's usually called a WMF wiki, because it is the parent organization. That's just what the rest of us with our own wikis call it, anyway, it's gone, as excess info. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 16:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: (User talk:ais523) Your script

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I'm using Firefox 3, and I haven't seen anything wrong happen with the script myself. What page did you see the issue on? (It's possible that someone decided to add the symbols themselves manually, which would obviously mean they ended up there twice, once manually and once via the script.) --ais523 23:36, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

All RfA pages at least. See this image. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 00:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive update

Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive update
 

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here is your mid-drive newsletter.

Participation
 
GOCE May 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

So far, 54 people have signed up for the drive, and 33 are actively participating. If you signed up for the drive but have not participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you have not signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. If you have questions about getting started, feel free to talk to us. Many thanks to those editors who have been helping out at the Requests page. We currently have 17 articles awaiting edit.

Progress report

We are making slow progress on achieving our target of reducing the overall backlog by 15%; in order to accomplish this goal we will need to complete about 400 more articles. However, we are making good progress on the 2009 backlog, as we have eliminated over half of the articles from 2009 that were present at the start of the drive. Let's concentrate our fire power on the remaining months from 2009; leaderboard awards will be handed out for 2009 articles this drive. Thank you for participating in the May 2011 drive. We hope it will be another success!

Your drive coordinators – S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 06:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Emerging technologies

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

As a spi clark can you recommend what I should so about the WP:3RR rule on this with the edits of User:Virtualerian and User:109.186.10.156 who look like they are one in the same. Mtking (talk) 00:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I would recommend filing an SPI, because that is evading a policy, 3RR, using multiple accounts. Instructions are at the top of WP:SPI. Sorry for directing you there instead of explaining, but I really should be getting to bed. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 02:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
No worries, I have done : Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Virtualerian Mtking (talk) 06:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2011

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Talk:Air India Express Flight 812/GA1

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello DQ, I just reviewed Air India Express Flight 812 for GA. The article is not quite ready to be passed yet; you can read my review comments here. You have 7 days to fix/address my issues or the nomination will have to be failed. Regards,--12george1 (talk) 03:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

Latest comment: 13 years ago14 comments13 people in discussion


Some one ordered this ?

 

Receiving signature required: :P
Delivery message: Fun part is over, now get to work :) .

Congratulations my friend :)
Mlpearc powwow 00:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys! -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 
Here's your free T-shirt!

Controversial deletions

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi I noticed that you deleted File:Cas-ydekwia.jpg and other similar file redirects. Apparently these are controversial if the file has been at the name for a long time. So really they should be listed at RFD to clarify. Deleting these messes up the appearance of pages in history that used them, especially since the name that you deleted was there for several years. If someone labells a speedy delete with G6 with no reason you should not be deleting it unless you know the reason yourself clearly! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

D'oh, where is the facepalm button, I thought they were moved, therefore redirected...and sorry for the delayed response, I was out of town. My eyes are to be glued to that in the future. Would you like me to restore for now or wait till the end of the RFD? -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 00:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 May 2011

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rainman64

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, Can you have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rainman64 to see if I have done it correctly. Mtking (talk) 12:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

It looks good and is already endorsed :) -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 13:49, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
What happens next with this one ? Mtking (talk) 11:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Trainee clerking

Latest comment: 13 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, I am finished with User:DeltaQuad/Admin/SPI/Training/King of Hearts/Lesson 1. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, I saw that last week on my watchlist, but then I left for the past 4 days. I will take a look at it today. :) Would it be possible for you to come on WP:IRC @ #wikipedia-en-spi connect at some point? -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I kind of forgot my password ...   King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:29, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't need one, though if you want to hide your IP address, you will have to reregister, which is easy and I will let you know how if you hop on. :) Looking at the assignment now. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 18:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Latest comment: 13 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, user Cameron Scott has started using his old username to continue making edits on the Caylee Anthony homicide article. He has deleting huge part of the article, in totalt contrast with what other users has already established to be relevant. His edits on his IP adress was the leading factor to the Caylee Anthony article being protectd yesterday. I find if very offensive for an IP to use an Old username to avoid a block that he/she contributed to.I hope you see my concern. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't get what your trying to say, which users are the same? and could you link the diffs of how you think they are the same. Thanks, -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 21:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes here are the edits of the IP that was responsible for a protection template being added to the article.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
And here are the IP also known now as Cameron Scotts latest disruptive edits. Only made to make me and other users upset I guess see here.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
And here is Cameron Scotts own confession to using his old username to avoid a protection that he caused, he earlier tried to unprotect the article. see here for confession. I hope you now see what I find to be wrong. Thanks--BabbaQ (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
And here is also a confession from his unprotection request that his IP was a reason for the article being protected in the first place.see here. I think it is a clear cut case of a IP-vandal using an old username to continue with his business.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
I see you have already posted on places like WP:AIV and WP:RFPP so I will leave it with those discussions. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 02:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis González-Mestres

Latest comment: 13 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

In keeping with your blocking of the IPs socks and re-formatting of their contributions on the AfD for the Luis González-Mestres article, could you look at the latest IP, User:83.199.69.101, with an eye to blocking it as a sock and hatting its contribution? Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Now there's another -- same style of writing, similar content, same formatting -- User:90.46.59.25. I really think it's going to be easier to semi the AfD then to keep up with an endless parade of IP socks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:14, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
  Done Another IP blocked for a week, AfD semi'd for a week, SPI case paperwork done and archived. Thanks for following up. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 19:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for the quick action. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Moved SPI

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi! Thanks for moving that SPI (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Motaros) for me. I wasn't exactly sure who to use as the "sockmaster", and obviously I picked the wrong one. Thanks again! MrMoustacheMM (talk) 03:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh no problem, and don't worry about it, sometimes we mess it up too. :) -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 03:51, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Why so complicated ?

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hello DQ, I am a simple man, yet for even scratching my head here on wiki I have to read lots and lots of complicated pages and even then I dont get any of it. I wanted to apply for page protection for several artciles, and believe me, after reading all the "apply for protection" pages, I cant figure it out, I dont understand the templates, the application procedures, the HTML complexities, blah!!! help me !!! and if this is a waste of your precious time, I am sorry dude !!

anyways, the pages are: Khattak, Oldest Afghan tribes, Lund Khwar. (for the moment that is, until my OCD behavior compels me for more) ;)

These pages have been subjected to vandalism many times and I have politely warned the vandals, suffice to say, if protected, it will save guys like yourself alot of time.

Thank you. TC. Msrafiq (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Please, please, please, for the love of God, guide me as how to become a vandal fighter, especially for the WikiProject Afghanistan and Pakistan (of which I am a part) related pages, many of them I constantly keep watch on and some of them I created myself. I know this is stupid, but wiki makes all things so complicated, I cant still figure out how to reach the vandal fighters, :( (maybe I am too dumb to be a vandal fighter, but a man's gotta try)......

Thanx again for your patience and time.

Msrafiq (talk) 05:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello Msrafiz, At this time I can not protect any of those pages, because they have not been excessively vandalized, there is no reverting dispute, and no other reason under the page protection policy. I think this article will give you a background on what vandal fighting is and there are some resources to help you with vandal fighting at the bottom of the page. If you don't get any of it, feel free to come right back here and I am more than glad to help. -- DQ(t) [[Special:Emai(e) 11:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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